#guys wth does dream nail do really???

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glad crane
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i mean im cutting into someones mind and you give me soul? is their brain liquified rn?

sterile berry
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I think the soul gaining part is more of a gameplay mechanic, given you dont get any from NPCs

glad crane
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nah

sterile berry
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Alright you wanna question game mechanics heres the answer! The dream nail opens a portal to the infinite soul pocket dimension every time you read a bug's mind!

glad crane
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thank you

full lily
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I think what it does is it just allows you to hear the bugs thoughts out loud

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And in some cases peer into the minds of the deceased

livid flare
loud rune
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apparently the dream nail is able to cut the fabric between dream and reality

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that would explain why dream nailing NPCs gives you their thoughts

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also why dream nailing certain characters transports you directly there

glad crane
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yes but

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um

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how the fuck does that give me soul

loud rune
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why does hitting an enemy with a normal nail give you soul

glad crane
loud rune
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that’s an amazing typo

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i fixed it

glad crane
livid flare
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possibly other vessels as well

crisp boltBOT
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Godseeker - Pantheon of Hallownest - First Encounter

Mischief beyond mischief! We can not escape thee, even in this highest, most distant of pantheons.
O wielder of nail, o eater of Soul. Are thee a messenger of the Gods... or something stranger?
We will not defy thee, continue thy combat. We shall be listening closely...

glad crane
livid flare
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yes other people use soul

glad crane
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K

livid flare
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that doesn’t mean they take it upon hitting someone

young veldt
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their soul

loud rune
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their soul

full lily
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their soul

glad crane
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whar

loud rune
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their soul

glad crane
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tjeir soul

mortal vale
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Me?zote

glad crane
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No

loud rune
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there sole

lone thistle
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i think that since there is a guy slicing up random things in their minds, they are getting brain damage because of you. and damage gives you soul

loud rune
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their soul

glad crane
indigo python
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i feel like vessels just have that ability to focus soul from the white lady, and the nail they were using is a channeling device of sorts. ig the dream nail just is a different kind of nail that enhances the soul collecting attribute of the nail itself...

livid flare
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no?

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They’d get the ability from the pale king the guy who could actually use magic
the nail is a weapon of Hallownest it doesn’t channel anything

indigo python
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right

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so the void in the vessel itself or what?

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does the void do all the aborption

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and all that jazz

loud rune
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their soul

indigo python
glad crane
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It's obviously a reference to the ||their soulTheir Soul||

broken creek
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their soul

glad crane
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there sole

mortal vale
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My soul?

loud rune
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their sole

glad crane
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theyr saul

wind kernel
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Goes into dreams?

glad crane
tall stratus
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no

warm salmon
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dream nail cuts the veil between the real world and the dreamworld. But we can also say that it cuts the veil between the real world and the spirituak world. The dreamworld is not one plane of existence, it seems to me like it is a manifestation of the spirit of a being, but it's very plausible to think that dreams are still connected in some sort of plane, albeit abstract plane maybe, and that it makes access easier for the radiance. And the spirit is a word closely linked to soul. The spiritual activity that constitutes the dream world turns into physical soul activity that animates the physical body. The knight is able to cut the veil, letting the spirit flow into the real world, somehow materializing the spirit as a real physical white substance, soul, due to magic I guess (magic like pale king, snail shaman). Btw i don't mean soul is not physical, i mean the spirit is non physical, and the soul is a physical manifestation of the spirit. The access with dream nail is stronger to the spirit, closer, it extracts spirit directly from the dreamworld, explaining why dream nailing gives more soul than nail hitting, which itself is letting soul leak out by the striking of the container, the physical body of the bug. Since the body of the bug is imbued in soul, animated by it in it's physical form.
But one evidence point remains to be analysed. Pale king gave the bugs the means to create their dream worlds, it must be the case, if not the radiance could have accessed whenever it wanted and infected everyone. It's said the pale king taught the bugs, under palest watch. Now question is was soul a thing before to animate bodies to live. What exactly did the pale king do, just vague magic? He taught them to focus, i think. Also void for example has no focus in itself, it must learn to do it, it has the potential to learn it, or copy it, but not in it's base form. Soul seems to give the vessels this focus, it's the only other constituant, or pale shell. Soul leads to dreams

warm salmon
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It's a very cool dichotomy, for once it's simple. How soul works. The more you tend towards the realm of spirituality you get dreams, loss of control. The more you go into physical reality, you have guys like snail shaman, they resist the infection btw, and here he has the ability to make a spell, to put a spiritual thing and convert it into physical reality as a physical thing, manifestation. And here it's complete mastery, control. Of course it's not a complete dichotomy, but it's cool how elegant and simple the lore is for once through this philosophical lense

loud rune
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their soul?

broken creek
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their soul

indigo python
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Their sol

loud rune
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nine of them