#Natural Emergence of Mathematical Concepts originating from One.

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wispy tendon
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@oak rune

oak rune
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Right

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To "make a two" you have to apply an operation to one, which you are implicitly doing

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But then you must define that operation

wispy tendon
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Copying it

oak rune
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Giving it a name doesn't help

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You must define it

wispy tendon
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1

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1 1

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you just make another one

oak rune
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That does not look like a definition to me

wispy tendon
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i think a three year old would get it

oak rune
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I hope you understand that I know what you're trying to do. You're just not doing it properly

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Because mathematically speaking, "having two ones" doesn't make any sense

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That's up to you to understand that

wispy tendon
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I don't need to play any game

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It's good

oak rune
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There is no point in leaving this thread open then

wispy tendon
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Someone who knows what two is (a child knows) will read the PDF and enjoy its ideas and make sense out of it.

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an egg cell knows

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it's about consciousness

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thought makes things, and a mind cannot make two without knowing one.

night bay
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Damn.
Axiom: There is one God who made one whole creation; one heaven and one earth.
Result: 1+1 = 2

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okay wtf is this

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there are 2 numbers, ergo we have twodimentional space, ergo we have root(2) and root(5)

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It starts of as a construction of N with a hint of Christianity, and then it loses all sense

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You cannot write root(5) if you
-haven't defined what the root-symbol means,
-haven't defined multiplication,
-haven't assumed pythagoras,
-haven't even defined 5, the exact number you're trying to take the root of

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You cannot just assume 1 exists, add 1+1 to get 2, and then root(5) follow logically.

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What you're trying to do here has been done by countless people and has been taught to every first year math student.

You first define N, either from axioms or from a set-theoretic approach. Then you define Z, then you define Q, then you define R, somewhere within these constructions you've also defined add/minus/multiplication/division, and from there you define more functions, such as the square-root.

You're trying to do the same but less systematically, going number by number, and using functions/numbers you've not yet defined.