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Is my proof ok?

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Proof: Let z be an element of U. Since x is a lower bound of U, xRz. Since z was arbitrary, x is the least upper bound of B.

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which statement are you proving?

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glad adder
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your argument says that x is below all upper bounds of B

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but you haven't explained why x is an upper bound of B

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in other words, you have used the part where x is a lower bound of U

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but you haven't used the assumption that x = inf U

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the argument as you have it right now passes for any element of B that is not in U, there's no way to conclude that x = sup B based on that alone

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infimum and supremum

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infimum = greatest lower bound
supremum = least upper bound

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glad adder
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but it's not enough

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for example B = (0,1), hence U = [1, inf)

take x=0.9, then clearly x is smaller than any upper bound of B

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but x is not the supremum

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you must show that bRx for all b in B

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then your proof is complete

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use the fact that x is the infimum of U

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Proof: Since every element of B is a lower bound for U(proved in (b)) and x is the greatest lower bound of U, x is a upper bound of B, which means x is in U. Since x is in U and is a lower bound of U, x is a smallest element in U and therefore x is the least upper bound of B.

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glad adder
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now it's correct

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