#Calc 2 Repeating integration by parts

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manic sleet
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Hello, this is my teachers notes of how to solve this problem and I do NOT know what the second half of it means. I understand how to do integration by parts up until the step " e^x cosx + integration e^x sinx "

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fossil grail
manic sleet
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Where does e^x sinx come from?

fossil grail
# manic sleet Where does e^x sinx come from?

For the initial integral we have:
u = sin(x), dv = e^x dx
du = cos(x)dx, v = e^x
So, according to the integration by parts formula:
∫(e^x sin(x)dx) = e^x sin(x) - ∫(e^x cos(x)dx)

manic sleet
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Ok I see how it gets there. How am I suppoed to know when to do this?

fossil grail
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It's important to know some general ones, then with practice you'll see what to use.

manic sleet
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My biggest problem right now is knowing which integration method to use for which problem

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This is my first math class in college and we are learning lots of units all at once. I need to know the difference when to use U-Sub, By parts, or Trig substitution and they each have so many cases

fossil grail
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I see.
Well, as I said, that mostly comes with practice.

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Also, note that some integrals can be solved with different approaches.

manic sleet
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Is there one universal way to solve an integral?

fossil grail
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No.

manic sleet
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Is there a way to check if my answer is correct when integrating by parts?

fossil grail
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Of course! Any indefinite integral is easy to check: just differentiate the answer and see if you get the initial function.

manic sleet
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How would you check this answer to see if its right

fossil grail
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Differentiate (1/2)e^x (sin(x) - cos(x)). If you get e^x sin(x), you at least know that the answer is correct.

runic bone
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is help still needed?

manic sleet
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im trying to solve it on my own right now but im getting stuck

runic bone
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okay

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try to distribute the negative

manic sleet
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i did

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now

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I added the -integral e^xsinx to the other side now

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So ive got
2 integral e^x sinx = e^xsinx - e^xcosx

runic bone
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yes

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so 1/2 of that is your answer

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now to check just differentiate

manic sleet
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Ohhh yeah i get it now

runic bone
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did you differentiate it?

manic sleet
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Yea

runic bone
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you got e^x sin(x)?

manic sleet
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Yea

runic bone
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aight

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do you need additional help?

manic sleet
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Not for now. I think im completely good on Integration by parts but I need to start studying Trig Sub now and im very scared

runic bone
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i can help with trig sub

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although you need to make a new forum

manic sleet
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Should I find a specific problem first?

runic bone
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but uh yeah you can close this now

manic sleet
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how do i close

runic bone
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+close

manic sleet
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+close