#Another one

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red briar
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dreamy spire
# red briar

This has the form u + v - u^2 + uv - v^2 = 1, so:
u^2 - uv + v^2 - u - v + 1 = 0
Now, try bringing this to the canonical form.

red briar
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i am unable to do that

dreamy spire
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Well, start by finding a linear substitution of the for u = U + a, v = V + b that gets rid of linear terms.

red briar
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i didnt understand

dreamy spire
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Which part?

red briar
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the linear substitution

dreamy spire
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If you have a general second degree polynomial of two variables, there always exists a linear substitution like the one I wrote above that gets rid of at least one linear term.

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Basically, we're trying to translate the respective quadratic curve so that it becomes centered at the origin.

red briar
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oh ok

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how do we apply it?

dreamy spire
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Substitute u = U + a, v = V + b into the initial expression and group the terms. The coefficients of linear terms will be expressed in terms of a and b, so you can set up a system that they are both 0.

red briar
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okay, i'll try

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in like 12 hrs as i have to sleep and go to school

tall trellis
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@red briar

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Can you see that the equation is basically in the form of

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$a^2+b^2+c^2-ab-bc-ca=0$

stark bisonBOT
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dy/dx= ∏sin(jx).Σj/sin(jx)

dreamy spire
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I don't think it has that form.

tall trellis
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I think it has

dreamy spire
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It does have the form u + v - u^2 + uv - v^2 = 1, though.

tall trellis
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The equation can be rewritten like this

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$(2^x)^2+(3^x)^2+1^2-3^x.1-2^x.3^x-2^x.1=0$$

stark bisonBOT
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dy/dx= ∏sin(jx).Σj/sin(jx)
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tall trellis
dreamy spire
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Ohh, interesting! I didn't look at it like that.

tall trellis
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Now using the properties you will get x=0

dreamy spire
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Well, we can bring that to the canonical form, too. Though, it's a bit harder than for two variables.

rancid torrent
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and so a = b = c is the only real solution

dreamy spire
red briar
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yeah so x=0

dreamy spire
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Yup.

tall trellis
tall trellis
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$a^2+b^2+c^2-ab-bc-ca=1/2[(a-b)^2+(b-c)^2+(c-a)^2]$