#Am I doing this right?

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versed dagger
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so far this is what I have

Y = -ln(X)

inverse would be:

X = e^(-Y) and the derivative of that would be dX/dY = -e^(-Y)

but now when it comes to the bounds we have

0 < X < 1 => 0 < e^(-Y) < 1
I will have to take ln of both sides
so it will be ln(0) < -Y < ln(1) right? but ln(0) is not defined
so what should I do
do I just treat it as neg inf
so, -inf < -Y < 0 => 0 < Y < inf will be the bound?

If so then the pdf of Y would be

f_X(x) |dX/dY| = f_X(e^-Y) * e^(-Y) = 4(e^-Y)^3 * e^-Y = 4e^(-4Y) so the ans would be IV?

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versed dagger
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tender magnet
versed dagger
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what does that mean

tender magnet
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For any $\phi \geq 0$ measurable:
\begin{align*}
E[\phi(Y)] &= E[\phi(-\ln(X))] \\
&= \int_0^{1} \phi(-\ln(x)) f_X(x) dx \\
&= \int_{0}^{1} \phi(-\ln(x)) \cdot 4x^3 dx
\end{align*}
jolly canopyBOT
versed dagger
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but is my reasoning incorrect

tender magnet
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Now you can do a variable substitution: $y = -\ln(x)$, which yields $dy = \frac{-dx}{x}$
jolly canopyBOT
versed dagger
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for IV

tender magnet
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Oh

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I just realized the reasoning you sent was kind of a test function but kinda hidden, so I was confused

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the overall reasoning is correct

versed dagger
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lastly

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could you explain this

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since it says X^2 = 1 we rlly are only looking for X = -1 and X = 1 here right

tender magnet
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Well what's a generating function

versed dagger
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i dont rlly know

tender magnet
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$M_X(t) = E[e^{tX}]$

jolly canopyBOT
versed dagger
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wait so lets say for P(X = -2) it would be 1/4?

tender magnet
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Well, hold your horses

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That is indeed true, but

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It is not possible to directly guess the distribution of $X$ given its MGF

jolly canopyBOT
tender magnet
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However, you can say that a distribution is uniquely determined by the MGF

versed dagger
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oh

tender magnet
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So you can make a random variable with the same MGF, and say that by extension, X has the same distribution

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So that will be why you can indirectly guess the probabilities

versed dagger
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in that case for

P(X = 1) = 1/6 and P(X = -1) = 1/4 right

tender magnet
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yes

versed dagger
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damn so then its

1/6 / (1/6 + 1/4) thats it right

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the answer

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bcz P(X = 1 | X^2 = 1) = P(X > 0 | X^2 = 1) here

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= 2/5

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0.4

tender magnet
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Should be the right reasoning at least

versed dagger
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bett ty

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lightwork

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+close