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upper wraith
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I know how to do a, b and c

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but d is the one that just confuses tf out of me

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if it's guilty of fraud OR family owned

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A.KA

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P(A U B)

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then isn't the answer 50/100?

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because of guilty of fraud is 10

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and family owned is 40

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so 40 + 10 = 50/100??

upper wraith
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hello

vapid parrot
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@upper wraith i have a different way to do (d)

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It's lengthy but understandable

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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Wait lemme calculate

vapid parrot
upper wraith
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i just did 6 + 34 + 4

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which is 44

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but there's an equation I can use too which the exam probably wants me to use

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P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)

vapid parrot
upper wraith
vapid parrot
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See this method two

vapid parrot
upper wraith
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im doing this now

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can I give the answers and you can cross check?

vapid parrot
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Similar ques

vapid parrot
upper wraith
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it's just 82/100

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/200*

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which is 41/100

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so the probability that the population is employed is 41%

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no wait

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scratch that

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I made a mistake

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employed is 82 + 32

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which is 114

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114/200

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is 57/100

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so it is 57%

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now for question 2:

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82 + 38 = 120/200

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60/100

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= 60% that support bike schemes

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part c now

vapid parrot
vapid parrot
upper wraith
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The question can be codified as computing the probability that both events "E" and "B" occur - "E" being those employed and "B" being those who support bike schemes.

I.e : The joint probability of both "E" and "B". From the table, we can see that this is 82/200 which is 41/200 = 41%

i.e the probability of the population being both employed and supporting bikes are 41%

vapid parrot
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Correct

upper wraith
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part d now

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the question can be codified as computing the probability of event "B" given event "E" occurs.

i.e: the conditional probability.

We can use this following equation:
P(E n B)/P(B)

In other words: P(82)/P(120)

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82/120

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Which is 68%

vapid parrot
upper wraith
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i knew it

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wait let me try again

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fucking hate these equations

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given that he/she is emplyed

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ohhh I used the wrong fomula

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it's P(E n B)/P(E)

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so 82/114

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which is 72%

vapid parrot
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P(emplyoed) = 114/200

vapid parrot
upper wraith
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nice

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lets try e now

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this question can be codified as computing the probability thaat either event "B" or event "E" does not occur. We can solve this by using the additional rule:

P(E) + P(B) - P(E n B"

However we will first have to work out the probability of the "not employed" and "not supporting bike schemes"

48 + 32 = 80/200 which means 0.40 do not support bike schemes.

48 + 38 = 86/200 which means 0.43 are not employed.

Now the probability that they are not employed AND do not support bike schemes is 48/200 which is 0.24.

So let's re-formulate the equation.

0.40 + 0.43 - 0.24 = 0.59

i.e 59% of the population in the above table does not support a bike share scheme or is not employed.

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I could've easily just done 38 + 48 + 32 which is 118/200 which is 59% but probably woudn't get full marks

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time to try part F

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yes, these are independent as the occurrence of "being employed" has no effect on the occurrence of "supporting bike-scheme" and vice versa too.

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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There is also a mathematical method to prove events are independent or not

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If P(A).P(B) = P(AnB) then A and B are independent

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What you got in e) ??

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You got 59% ?? It's wrong

upper wraith
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what's the correct answer?

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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I got 18%

upper wraith
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can I see your working

vapid parrot
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I don't have now shit

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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Lemme type it

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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Then

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A and B are

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Independent

upper wraith
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yh ik

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but idk how the equation works

vapid parrot
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Oh actually i forgot the concept behind it sorry

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It was derived from conditional probability

upper wraith
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so 57*41?

vapid parrot
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??

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Wait , first let's do e

upper wraith
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ok

vapid parrot
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Send the ques again

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I can't scroll now

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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@upper wraith

upper wraith
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letter e

vapid parrot
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We need to find P(S'UE')

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There is a formula , P(S'UE') = P(SnE)' = 1-P(SnE)

vapid parrot
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1-82/100 = 18/100 = 18%

upper wraith
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i think that's wrong

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my uni teaches it like this:

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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It's a different question

upper wraith
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the P(A U B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)

vapid parrot
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It means calculation is wrong either

upper wraith
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Plus I double checked using the lazy way which is 38 + 48 + 32

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and it also gave 59%

upper wraith
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same which this, if you use the lazy way you get the same answer too (34 + 6 + 4)

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44%

vapid parrot
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What's the answer in answer key??

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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I did correct, i don't know how's this happening

vapid parrot
upper wraith
vapid parrot
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For e

upper wraith
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because even if you double check, it gives the same answer

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let's move on

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so about the independance thing

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this is what my uni said:

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but I don't get this formula

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or how to apply it to the employment/bike scheme table

upper wraith
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ok so P(A) is 114/200

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and P(b) is 120/200

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and P(A n B) is 82/200

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so does that mean 114/200 * 120/200 = 82/200?

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that doesn't make sense

vapid parrot
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🤦🏻

upper wraith
vapid parrot
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Actually

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Ah

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57/100× 60/100 ≠ 41/100

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So they are not independent

upper wraith
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being employed and supporting bike schemes don't relate to eachother

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the occurence of one event happening will not effect the occurence of the other event

vapid parrot
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But we are studying mathematics

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We need equations and theorems to prove a thing

upper wraith
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ah

upper wraith
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the ones that mess with my brain

vapid parrot
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I don't have any interest in stats

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Haha

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I don't study it also