#How to Prove Convergence

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upper flax
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Hello so I'm wondering if anyone has a quicker way of proving convergence of my function
a_n = \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{n^4 - \frac{2}{3}}}

What I found out was the series b_n = n^(-4/3) converges by p-test thing -4/3 < -1 and I found that c_n = b_(n-1) must also then converge by tails
Since i'm trying to do it by comparison I found the original isn't less than b_n which is why I found c_n because the original is less than c_n and I proved this by rearranging and showing that for all n >= 1, the
1/(cn)^3 = (n^4 - g(x)) and I showed that g(1) = -1, and g'(x) < 0 implying decreasing which means g(x) x> 1 is always less than -1
which implies 1/(cn)^3 <= n^4 - 1 < n^4 - 2/3
which means 1/(cn)^3 < 1/(an)^3 which means a_n < c_n for any n >= 1
and since c_n converges, a_n must by the limit comparison test.

as you can see this is such a lengthy way of doing it and I was wandering if there is aynthing quicker since the question isn't really worth many marks compared to the others:

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upper flax
native plume
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In all fairness I think a comparison test is plenty good already

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One way to see it is the following

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when n is large, crt(n^4 - 2/3) behaves like n^4/3

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so with 4/3 larger than 1, the series of 1/n^(4/3) converges

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and so does the series of crt(n^4 - 2/3)

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but by plain comparison

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to be fair the method is still similar

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you can say that n^4 - 2/3 is greater than (n^4)/2 when n is large

upper flax
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yeah I know intuitvley n^4 and it - 2/3 are the same but I'm kind of doing a course where we have to be very rigourous in what we do

native plume
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or something

native plume
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there is a theorem that says you can do that

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Though I do not know what it is called in English

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I can't give you the resource in English since I've never found it before

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I'm referring to the first dot here

native plume
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so clearly crt(n^4 - 2/3) > crt(n^4/2) = n^(4/3)/2^(1/3)

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so 1/ crt(n^4 - 2/3) < crt(2)/n^(4/3)

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that's probably a more convincing comparison in your standards

upper flax
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yeah

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okay thank you this seems to be much easier and quicker I think I'll try this way instead of my unneccisarily complicated way

native plume
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than try to find some fancy bounds

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because as said before, that is a bona fide theorem

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that incidentally gives you the rate of convergence for free

upper flax
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well I only need to show the sequence is convergent using the limit comparison test (ie find a similar function)

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but to be honest I have zero idea what I'm doing in this course and its week 11

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as I said I spent all day on this one thing activley avoiding the other 70 marks of this homework sheet

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idk whats wrong with me lol but thank you for helping its gave me ideas/answers

native plume
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I don't know what exactly is demanded of you but if you just need to show convergence or divergence for a bunch of series, it's not exactly complicated most of the time

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the big picture is that since you don't know how to compute most series that exist, you can still compare them to some series known to mankind

upper flax
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these are the other ones I still have to do <
the last one I can use the ratio test of a_n+1 / a_n and show its < 1
but b) (the log one) I think I have to use the alternating series Leibniz test

native plume
upper flax
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okay thats good

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upper flax
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okay thanks @native plume for your help

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upper flax
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+close