How is the answer not 71

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[rustic warren]

What are you trying to find here?

[tough prism]

AFB

[rustic warren]

Hm... To be honest, I can't quite see how you can get it at all. Can you show what you did?

[tough prism]

Sure

so first I did 180 - 109

to get the angle next to it

and since its isoceles

that means the angle on top of it is also the same

[tough prism]

this is 71

and since vertically opposite angles are equal

that means angle F should be also 71

right?

[rustic warren]

Why do you think so?

No equal angles are given.

[tough prism]

Wdym

[rustic warren]

Why do you think EDF is an isosceles triangle?

[tough prism]

because it looks like one. the website that my teacher assigned us the work on doesnt signify if they are equal or not so you have to go by the looks of it

[errant umbra]

That's honestly weird

[tough prism]

i agree

[rustic warren]

That doesn't count. Unless it's specifically said that angles are equal, you should never assume so.

[errant umbra]

Wouldn't it be 70.5?

Acc to your logic?

AB and AF look the same

[tough prism]

yea but for the rest of the questions it didnt specifically say but they still were

[tough prism]

i did try that

[rustic warren]

I don't think this question is possible to solve. The point E can be moved arbitrarily without changing the given angles, thus also moving the point F and changing the angles with F as the vertex.

[tough prism]

but my teacher said we didnt get into decimal angles yet

[errant umbra]

That's what I thought as well

[rustic warren]

(arbitrarily along the line CD, that is)

[tough prism]

Hmmm

[errant umbra]

705/10 🗿

[tough prism]

so this questions is just not answerable then

[errant umbra]

Nope

They have to specify what is equal to each other

[tough prism]

oh wait

i just saw

idk how i didnt see this

it says

BE = BC

[errant umbra]

Oh

Now it's straightforward

BCE is isosceles

[rustic warren]

Oh. Then yeah, this should be solvable.

[tough prism]

bce is isoceles?

how-

OH

i see it

ok now i can solve it

THANK UYUO

You*

wait im stuck again

hello

anyone still here

[wooden vortex]

Le gerr

[rustic warren]

Please don't post the whole solution.

[wooden vortex]

It seemed like no one could help and like this person needed an explanation, it's not like I just flat out gave him the answer, I took the time to explain the solution after everyone in here tried and failed.

They definitely gave it their all.

[rustic warren]

Still, you could've just continued the discussion. Posting the whole solution is not what we do here.

The point is for the person who asked the question to get to the solution themselves.

[wooden vortex]

Why drag the poor fellow through the mud like that just so you can feel like you "taught" him something.

Rather, give them the material and resources to learn why and how things work. Not flat out answers or being kept on the edge of a leash until you figure it out on your own.

That's dumb.

[rustic warren]

While I do agree that providing information, some people can abuse this, unfortunately.

[wooden vortex]

I hope my solution and explanation helps you learn. If you have any questions at all please feel free to reach out

[rustic warren]

So, it's better not to post the full solution, but to discuss further.

[wooden vortex]

Maybe for those who may abuse it. I'm not those people.

[rustic warren]

No, I'm not talking about those who answer. I'm talking about those who ask.

Some people just straight up ask for answers. Which, of course, isn't allowed.

[wooden vortex]

That's why you make sure they aren't just begging to be spoofed answers. Which imo is pretty obvious most of the time to anyone with eyes.

[rustic warren]

True. Still, I disagree with just posting the solution.

[wooden vortex]

Alright, well I'll do my best to make sure I don't hand out solutions to those who don't deserve it.

[rustic warren]

Well, I meant in general, but ok...

[winter flint]

bro how is it not 77

@rustic warren

@wooden vortex

its 180 - 71 - 32

Erm helo

i swear its 77

[rustic warren]

Why do you think it's not? That's correct.

[wooden vortex]

Where are you getting that 71 from

[winter flint]

@wooden vortex got 109

and bro was hella confident he was right

[winter flint]

bro maybe go learn geo instead of posting solutions

[rustic warren]

That would be angle FDE.

[errant umbra]

Discussion >>>>>>>>>>> Dumping solutions

Just avoid it next time

[wooden vortex]

You're right, I'm wrong
Lol, even I can get a lil mixed up sometimes. However, I've already stated why keeping people at the end of a hook for their problem is more just placing yourself in a certain position above them for a while. So I wont change my opinion on that.

This doesn't count as a solution BTW, as everyone here knows it's 71

This is just showing my mistake

[rustic warren]

What exactly do you mean by "placing yourself in a certain position above them"?

[wooden vortex]

As I said here

[rustic warren]

Wait, wait. Do you think we discuss things just to make ourselves feel better?

Because if so, then that's not it.

And also quite mean of you to think that.

[errant umbra]

He literally said that "why drag the person through mud to make you feel like you teached him something"

Bro thinks we waste our time for self-satisfaction

[rustic warren]

Huh...

Why would you think like that, though...

[errant umbra]

Many kids these days taunt WWII vets

It might have to do with the fact he just started helping and will realise our efforts

[rustic warren]

Wait, what? I mean, that is insane, of course, but I don't quite see the connection to our discussion.

[errant umbra]

Definitely a huge difference between war and helping people on Discord but the point is same, they don't realise the work we put in

If he helped then he would realise it isn't self satisfaction

[rustic warren]

Oh. Well, I think I see what you mean, but I don't think using that comparison is a good idea.

[errant umbra]

Yea, I prob have to go to sleep

I am going insane

[wooden vortex]

I didn't say that at all.

[rustic warren]

Then what did you mean?

[wooden vortex]

Don't put intentions behind my words m8.

[karmic lynx]

only the info in the picture is given ?

no other info is given?

[rustic warren]

BE = BC, too.

[karmic lynx]

is it?

then its super easy wth

[rustic warren]

Yeah, this isn't a very difficult problem. The problem is that Chinchilla forgot to mention about BE = BC, so at first we thought it was unsolvable.

[karmic lynx]

._.

[wooden vortex]

I mean exactly what I said.
Imagine for instance you're in the shoes of the guy needing help. You reach out and everyone is just trying to bait you towards the answer like calling out to a lost person in a cave instead of just throwing them a rope.

I already explained that it's obvious enough to tell when someone is begging to be spoonfed.

When someone has knowingly tried their best but still cannot reach a conclusion, throwing them a rope is not a bad thing. This stigma around helping one another via direct explanation VS confusingly edging them toward an answer is toxic.

[rustic warren]

But guiding towards the answer is the whole point of helping.

If you just post the result, then there is no point.

[wooden vortex]

That's where the explanatory nature of the solution has its whole purpose

[karmic lynx]

you may also try the question i posted...

[rustic warren]

Just posting the solution does not help.

As I said, the point is for the asker to get the solution, not you.

[wooden vortex]

No one "just posted the solution" here. Trust me I know how human being learn. I work in a Montessori elementary school teaching kids polynomials.

[errant umbra]

You're a teacher? Well that certainly gives some validation to your points

[wooden vortex]

You'd be surprised how smart kids are, the concept doesn't matter as long as they see it as "fun"

I envy their neuroplasticity

[errant umbra]

We do things differently here, there maybe many ways to doing a problem but we believe in the way of going in the cave and guiding them out instead of using a rope

[rustic warren]

I mean, I wouldn't doubt your expertise, of course, since I'm not a teacher.
But I just don't see how just posting the solution early in any case can be more helpful than the asker getting it themselves, even if that takes longer.

I mean, we don't help on tests, anyway, so time doesn't matter.

[wooden vortex]

Not helping on tests I agree with 100%

[errant umbra]

I agree with Lord here, posting the solution doesn't develop the enhancement of the brain to solve such questions. They should figure it out on their own.

Your students are probably enlightened, but not all people here are like that.

It's better to start low and adjust accordingly to the person

[winter flint]

BRO ITS NOT 71

[wooden vortex]

Alright then, I'll relent and adhere to how things are done here. When in Rome...

[tough prism]

waht happened-

[tough prism]

yeah its not 71

Oh its says its 77