#calculus help

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junior wind
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Confused about the plus minus sign

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junior wind
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the last step before determining the answer is y^-2 = 2/7x^-3 + cx^4

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raise both sides to the negative 1/2 power to get y

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there are plus/minus signs in the answer choices, how do i go about this?

pliant jay
junior wind
pliant jay
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Ah, I see.
Suppose y^(-2) = x. What is y?

junior wind
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1/x^2

pliant jay
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I assume you meant 1/√(x).

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But is it only that?

junior wind
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lol

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is it not?

pliant jay
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Well, y = 1/√(x) is a root of y^(-2) = x.

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But is it the only one?

junior wind
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no i meant the second question

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yeah i messed up

pliant jay
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What I mean is y^(-2) = x is equivalent to y = ±1/√(x), not just 1/√(x).

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That's where ± comes from.

junior wind
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ah i see

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ok so my chosen answer would be correct?

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thx

pliant jay
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Yeah, seems good.

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Though... I think we might be able to solve this a little quicker.

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Your approach is good, but I think we can do it with a trick.

junior wind
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ok whats the trick?

pliant jay
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y' + 2y/x = y^3/x^4
Let's multiply everything by x^2.
x^2 y' + 2xy = y^3/x^2
We notice that x^2 y' + 2xy = (x^2 y)'. So:
(x^2 y)' = y^3/x^2
We want the right part to also contain x^2 y. So, let's multiply its numerator and denominator by x^6.
(x^2 y)' = x^6 y^3/x^8
(x^2 y)' = (x^2 y)^3/x^8
And now this is a separable equation in terms of x^2 y and x.

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In general, y' + ay/x = x^(-a)(x^a y)' for any a. That's where the trick comes from.

junior wind
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wow that is brilliant

pliant jay
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Yeah, this is a pretty useful trick.

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Another one that is occasionally useful is:
y' + ay = e^(-ax) (e^(ax) y)'

junior wind
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these are p cool but idk if ill remember them lol

pliant jay
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Well, you don't need to remember them exactly.