#Proving Force Formula using Calculus
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how is $\dv{t}\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}=0$?
Omegabet_
Differentiating with respect to t, c and v are constant so you're differentiating a constant and thus it's 0
so then.. the entire thing would be 0 no?
cause dv/dt*sqrt()=0 by that
so 0-0/cnst = 0
v isnt a constant, c is a constant
Yeah of course but the whole point of the question is to prove the formula so u play games with differentiation to get the two force formulas to be equal
yes, but you did something bs
you said something not constant is a constant
everything that follows is wrong
How are v and c not considered constants when differentiating in terms of t
Doesn't matter I'm differentiating in terms of t
Omegabet_
hence the numerator is $0-0=0$
Omegabet_
which means... all of physics except displacement is... constantly 0
which, idk about you, feels wrong
Ok what do you want me to do argue with the question my answer wasn't f=0
it is
your answer is 0 given you're saying v is a constant wrt t
but anyway, v isnt a constant
so treat it as such
My brother in Christ this isn't helping me prove the formula
it is
ive told you the glaring mistake you've made
and told you how to correct it
compute $\dv{t}\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}$ properly
Omegabet_
then continue with the algebra
Mmm implicit differentiation?
sure
but anyway, by chain rule you get $\frac{1}{2\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}\dv{t}(1-v^2/c^2)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}}(-\frac{2va}{c^2})$
Omegabet_
or something like that
yeah no clue what this is suppose to be
$F=m_0\frac{\dv{v}{t}\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}-v\dv{t}\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}}{1-v^2/c^2}=m_0\frac{a\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}+\frac{av^2}{c^2}(1-v^2/c^2)^{-1/2}}{1-v^2/c^2}$
multiplying top and bottom by $\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}$ and further algebra should give the desired result
Omegabet_