#Simple integrals questions

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mortal rivet
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I think that the prof is doing something wrong, but hes probably right, thats my experience haha.

The question asks us to calculate the fourier series of f(t) with period = 1, but the tricky part is that its only defined on an interval.

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mortal rivet
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He drawed it like this, how can we know that it is also "t" on the other intervals, that isnt said in the question?

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And by the look of this then "t" is no longer an odd function, but rather even.

buoyant flame
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Oh, usually the function is either assumed to be 0 or periodic.

mortal rivet
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Oh

buoyant flame
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As for the transform... Hm, I think you can set it as an infinite sum of integrals.

mortal rivet
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aah yeah

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here comes my other question

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cause here is where i think he does something quiet weird

mortal rivet
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cause u usally think "t", oh yeah an odd function

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but then if u chek the intervals its not 💀

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so its like a bait

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or "booby trap"

mortal rivet
buoyant flame
mortal rivet
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but its what he wants us to use on the test

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so we'll have to go with that xd

mortal rivet
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Shouldnt it be 4 times (0, 1/2)?

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cause T = 1

buoyant flame
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Here are the formulas I'm used to using. The text reads "general series of f(x) for x ∈ (x0 - l, x0 + l)".

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In our case x0 = 1/2, l = 1/2.

mortal rivet
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ooh

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yeaah i prefer those too

buoyant flame
# mortal rivet

I'm not sure if that will work. Rather, I think that will produce the following function.

mortal rivet
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yeah i was gonna say cause

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he ended up with an = 0

buoyant flame
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Did your professor calculate the coefficients? We can just check what they give us.

mortal rivet
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yeah

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So he ended up with an = 0

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but yet his a0 = 1?

buoyant flame
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Ohh. I see what he did!

buoyant flame
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Try making a sketch.

mortal rivet
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🤔

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wdym exactly lol?

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by 1/2 down, sorry.

buoyant flame
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Move the function by 1/2 units down.

mortal rivet
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well i get t/2?

buoyant flame
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No, don't divide it by 2.

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When you move y = f(x) down by 1/2, you get y = f(x) - 1/2.

mortal rivet
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ahaa

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oh yeah it becomes

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symetrica around

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x axis

buoyant flame
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Well, kinda, but look at the origin.

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The function now has a nice property.

mortal rivet
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hmmm

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im sketching it rn

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oh yeah its shifted to the right x-axis

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oh yeah he made it

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odd?

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@buoyant flame its "starts" at the origin?

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oh yeah from 0,1

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instead of 0, to 1/2

buoyant flame
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Basically, our g(t) is a sum of 1/2 and an odd function.

mortal rivet
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what the hell thats freakin brilliant

buoyant flame
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So, a(0) will be 1, a(n > 0) will all be 0 and b(n) will have to be calculated.

mortal rivet
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yeaaah

buoyant flame
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Yeah, that's quite a good idea to do here. Reduces work by quite a lot.

mortal rivet
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yeah

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so he makes it odd

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i wish he wrote that he did that atleast on the sheet

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uh i understood it there but now im lost cause i took a break xd

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would you like to help me visualize it again?

buoyant flame
mortal rivet
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ohh yeah

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and since we do this

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instead of 2 times (0,1/2)

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we just do 2 times 0,1

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i think im just tierd atp but i get how he solved it!

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what im just left at is why he hasnt written it anywhere in his solution

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or like how it comes "in"

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This is what he lastly wrote and solved and thats the end.

buoyant flame
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Yeah, I'm not sure that's a good thing to skip that step.

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If you do, you need to use the general formula.

mortal rivet
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like with the general formula it makes sense

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but with ours it says instead from -1/2 to a half

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and then ofc 2 times 0 to a half

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but it still doesnt end up to 1

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maybe i should skip this question since it has only showed up 1 time out of like 10 exams

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during the past 8 years haha

buoyant flame
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Well, you can just apply the logic we did above: shift the function so that it becomes odd, then find the coefficients, then shift it back.

mortal rivet
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no pain no gain

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i would probably learn it if i had the time

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but i have 2 other exams aswell

buoyant flame
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Oh. Well, then that's up to you.

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Good luck!

mortal rivet
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I've studied really hard for this so i think i'll pass!

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i even have a whole sheet where i memorized a ton of stuff

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mortal rivet
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