#Logarithm problem

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trail raft
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hey i need help for this problem

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spice oriole
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,rotate

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spice oriole
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So I assume it’s solve the SOE

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For top equation, use the fact that ln(a)^b = b • ln(a) and vice versa

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So ln(y) = -4 • ln(x+1) or 1/ln(x+1)^4

trail raft
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like this

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Am still blocked

trail raft
upbeat tusk
calm pilot
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Ln(a)^b can mean ln(a^b) not specifically ln^b(a)

trail raft
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no it means here

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ln[(x+1)^4]

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so 4ln(x+1)

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But i Can't find the solution i tried to simplify it by assuming lny= 4lnx+1

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it gives anything

thorn zenith
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If you we assume here ln(a^b)= bln(a) you can express x in term of y on the second line

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Using the properties of ln

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Then you can substitute on the first line and solve for one of the variables

trail raft
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thorn zenith
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WoW that looks annoying

thorn zenith
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Well you could write x=x+1-1

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Then develop ((x+1)-1)(x+1)^4=(x+1)^5-(x+1)^4

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Let X=x+1

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Then you need to solve X^5-X^4=1

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Find the roots of X^5-X^4-1

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Not all of the roots because note that logarithms are involved so you need x>0 and x+1>1 thus X>1

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Also this polynomial doesn’t have any rational roots

thorn zenith
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There is only 1 solution on the interval ]1,2]