#Need help with this
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Well, you need to solve the equation cos(πx/2) = 1/2, as well as the inequality cos(πx/2) > 1/2 for x ∈ [0, 4]. Note that you don't actually need to solve the last inequality: just invert the result from cos(πx/2) > 1/2.
Alright, thank you. After that, would I need to use Unit Circle to figure out what values are greater than 1/2?
Yeah, when solving inequalities, I usually imagine the unit circle.
For these answers, would I need to put in one answer or two?
ie 1pi/2 and 2pi/3
etc
There shouldn't be any π-s left when you find x.
And you write however many values you get.
Awesome, thanks for the help
You're welcome!
It's been a while since I touched this, but I managed to figure out that g(x) = 1/2 when x is 10/3 and 2/3 on a domain between 0 and 4 on a line
So after graphing it for a visual in my head, I basically made this sketch
lemme take a pic rq
Yes, that is correct.
So right now I'm trying to figure out which intervals between [0, 4] is g(x) > 1/2
And which interval is g(x) ≤ 1/2 as well
What's a good place to start from here? I know that there's a finite amount of exact answers between these lines because angles can get extremely precise on the Unit Circle.
Well, you can use the unit circle to solve elementary trigonometric inequalities.
For example, you can infer these by looking at a unit circle:
1.
cos(x) > a (-1 ≤ a < 1)
x ∈ (-arccos(a) + 2πn, arccos(a) + 2πn)
2.
cos(x) ≤ a (-1 ≤ a ≤ 1)
x ∈ [arccos(a) + 2πn, 2π - arccos(a) + 2πn]
(or by looking at a graph of cos(x))
So, can you apply that to our case?
Yes.
i have no clue why i'd apply arccos
Forgot to mention: n ∈ ℤ, as usual.
Well, for the same reason as when you solve cos(x) = a.
im assuming thats what that means
Yes. After all, cos(x) is 2π-periodic.
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in my case of looking for which integer is > 1/2, where would I apply a into this
just like any radian within the unit circle or
What do you mean?
arccos(1/2) has one value.
Yes.
so because arccos(1/2) is pi/3, in that case would i do (pi/3 + 2πn, 2π - pi/3 + 2πn) to account for arccos(a)
and just solve for x afterwards
er
5pi/3 + 2πn i mean
pi/3 + 2πn, 5pi/3 + 2πn
Ah, sorry! I forgot to put square brackets.After all, the inequality is non-strict.
sorry if i seem stupid this has been a while since i brushed up on calc
Corrected.
So, we have:
cos(πx/2) ≤ 1/2
πx/2 ∈ [π/3 + 2πn, 5π/3 + 2πn]
Then what will be the set for x?
Yes.
ok and then from there i'd get 2/3 + 4n and 10/3 + 4n
but those are like the exact values for x = 1/2
i also need to find out what's greater and what's less/equal than those values
Yes.
x ∈ [2/3 + 4n, 10/3 + 4n]
However, remember that we're restricted to the interval x ∈ [0, 4].
So, we neet to cut down that solution set, leaving only the part in our domain.
ok
i just need to figure out from that point whether or not [0, 2/3], [2/3, 10/3] or [10/3, 4] is > than 1/2
how do i go about finding that
would it just be like
Well, let's try some values of n.
n = 0: [2/3, 10/3]. This interval is completely contained inside [0, 4]. Also, considering that cos(πx/2) is 4-periodic, all other intervals will lie completely outside of [0, 4].
Thus, the solution of cos(πx/2) ≤ 1/2 for x ∈ [0, 4] is x ∈ [2/3, 10/3].
alright so everything between 2/3 and 10/3 will be less/equal to x=1/2
Yes.
how would i know that all other intervals lie outside of [0, 4]
Because all the other intervals are shifted by multiples of 4.
Which is the length of our interval.
Thus, if we have an interval completely inside it and shift it by at least 4 in any direction, it will be completely outside it.
oh alright so anything higher than 10/3 would be 4x too great than 4 and anything lower than 2/3 would be 4x lesser than 0
that's what im getting rn
Well, not 4 times greater. It will be either at least 4 more or 4 less.
oh alright
Alright. Now, for cos(πx/2) > 1/2.
And, as I said, there's no need to actually solve it.
For any number a and function f(x), we have either f(x) > a or f(x) ≤ a. There are no other options, right?
So, what we can do for cos(πx/2) > 1/2 is take our solution for cos(πx/2) ≤ 1/2 and subtract it from the whole interval [0, 4].
By subtract, I mean set subtraction, so you just remove the points, not subtract their coordinates.
Just to recall: our total domain is [0, 4] and the solution of cos(πx/2) ≤ 1/2 is [2/3, 10/3].
So, the solution of cos(πx/2) > 1/2 must be everything from [0, 4] except [2/3, 10/3].
Yes.
Oh, not exactly, though.
Note that the points x = 2/3 and x = 10/3 are included in the solution of cos(πx/2) ≤ 1/2.
So, we need to exclude them too.
Yes!
Great! You're welcome.
there's a part of the problem that allows me to graph g(x) and mark where y > 1/2 as well
Well, do you know what a sine wave looks like?
so im guessing in that case i'd just have to draw a line and show what intervals is > 1/2, etc
yeah
middle up middle down
repeat over
We know the points where it is equal to zero (x = 2/3, x = 10/3) and we know where it's positive and negative.
So, that allows you to draw it.
so from there i'd just have to draw a sine wave that goes as high as 10/3 and as low as 2/3
Oh, no-no.
Its zeroes are at x = 2/3 and x = 10/3.
We have cos(πx/2), so its amplitude is still 1. So, it still goes from 1 to -1, etc.
Yeah. Also, I recommend putting + and - signs where the function should be positive or negative.
Moreover, recall that the peaks and valleys of a sine wave must occur exactly between its zeroes, so that gives you some other points to mark.
hmm
not sure if im doing this right
one sec ill take a pic
would it look somewhat like that
i feel like that sine wave is too big
Mostly yes, but a couple of comments:
- Considering what I said about peaks and valleys, you can also mark points (0, 1), (2, -1) and (4, 1).
- We must be confined to [0, 4], so don't draw anything outside of that.
gotcha
Oh, also! I think I've said that x = 2/3 and y = 10/3 are zeroes, which is wrong. Those are the points at which g(x) is equal to 1/2.
Sorry about that.
all good
The zeroes should be located at x = 1 and x = 3, which you can also find by solving cos(πx/2) = 0 in our interval.
So, the points you can mark on the graph are:
(0, 1)
(2/3, 1/2)
(1, 0)
(2, -1)
(3, 0)
(10/3, 1/2)
(4, 1)
With that many points it should be pretty easy to draw a sine wave.
alright, thank you so much for the help!
if i have any more questions, i'll be sure to let you know
you've done a great job today 🙂
You too!
Sorry to bother, but this also stumped me a little bit
On E where it says that I need to use my sine wave to graph that piecewise function, what's it asking for exactly?
First, mark the regions where g(x) > 1/2 and g(x) ≤ 1/2. For example, you can dash them in different directions.
Then, for the region where g(x) > 1/2, your f(x) should be 1, and it should be 0 everywhere else on [0, 4].
Good afternoon! I was looking at this earlier and I wondered if the sine wave I drew was actually a cos wave
I'm used to cos(x) usually sloping down when it starts at 0, rather than it going up to 1
so I was thinking that I might've written a cos wave on accident
Sine wave and cosine wave are the same thing, just shifted. I prefer not to differentiate these terms.
Alright, so the answer is still acceptable then?
Of course.
Alright, thanks. I'll try to work on the next wave
Good luck!
I have two subsequent assignments at the moment, so I'm trying to deal with the other sheet that's due on Wednesday