#Involution ,DIT ,DDIT

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digital trench
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<@&776327020388679680> I need someone help me figure what is involution and what is look like and also i want to know about DDIT and its applications too, i have read markbcc 168 paper but don't understand

finite plover
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Which part don't you understand

digital trench
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can you give me an example of a point "A" after involution

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i don't understand what involution be like

finite plover
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Let L be a line

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Let O be a fixed point on L

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f that send A to A' on the line L such that $OA \cdot OA' = 1$ is an involution

compact waspBOT
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k12byda5h

digital trench
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wow ok

finite plover
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I know him personally. You can tell me what you don't understand

digital trench
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🙏 wow sir

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thank you

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in the pdf he defines, Let P, A, B, C, D be points on a plane with AB ∩ CD = E,AD ∩ BC = F. Let a conic C tangent to lines AB,CD,AD,BC. Let PX,PY are the tangent line from P to C. Then (PX,PY),(PA,PC),(PB,PD),(PE,PF) are reciprocal pairs of some involution on pencil of lines pass through P.

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in the ddit i don't understand the italic part

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why can we involution on lines

finite plover
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you understand the definition of involution of points on line right?

digital trench
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yes

finite plover
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In this case, it is involution of lines passing through a fixed point P. Let f is a funtion of those lines.

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suppose that there is a fixed line L not passing through P

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Let g be a function of points on line L such that

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$$g(X) = L \cap f(\overline{PX}) \quad \forall X \in L$$

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k12byda5h

finite plover
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Then f is an involution of lines if and only if g is an involution of points

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To make it easy, we can just say that the projection of involution of lines on a line is an involution of points.

digital trench
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ok

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okok

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Let ABC and DEF be two triangles which share an incircle ω and cir- cumcircle γ. Let L be the tangency point of EF on ω and define K similarly on BC. Select N ≡ AL ∩ γ and M ≡ DK ∩ γ. Show that lines AM, EF, BC, ND are concurrent.

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in this problem they said (DA,DM) is a pair

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but idk why

finite plover
digital trench
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swapping DAto DM DE to DF and DB to DC

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but why we swap DA to DM

finite plover
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when you talk about involution, there must exist 3 pairs to uniquely determine an involution

digital trench
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but does the tangency at K do anything

finite plover
digital trench
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ok

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oh so K is the special case?

finite plover
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it is
(DB,DC), (DE,DF),(DA,DK)

finite plover
digital trench
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ah yes

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i understood now

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By theorem 3, lines AM,EF,BC are concurrent. Similarly EF,BC,ND are concurrent
and we are done.

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what is theorem 3 sir

finite plover
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Line $\overline{AA'}$ passes through a fixed point.

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k12byda5h

finite plover
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when $A' = f(A)$ when $f$ is an involution on conic

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k12byda5h

digital trench
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ok

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oh wow

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so i saw how miracle it is when i see the sol for that taiwan tst 2014 problem

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very fast

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thank you for helping me!

finite plover
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DDIT is so OP

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cross ratio is underrate. If you are familiar with projective geo and DDIT, you will be able to solve many geo probs