#Linear Algebra
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Btw im not asking for the answer. I just need someone get me started and explain how to go about it
write the matrix with unknown entries and see what the info get you, you should get 3 equations that should hold for any x, y, z
how do i calculate those equations is there a method i use? we haven't done any examples in class so i have trouble with the start
matrix multiplication
with what? jsut random terms?
AX = column vector described in the statement
im sorry for the stupid questions but i still dont understand
np
A is your matrix, it has to be 3x3 because it sends a column vector of 3 entries to another one
write the entries as unknowns, you want to find them
X = column vecotr [x y z]
it's your generic 'variable vector'
the statement says what is the image AX (as another column vector of 3 entries)
so the matricial equation gives you 3 equations that holds for every X, i.e., for every x, y, z
because you can choose x, y, z, you can get enough equations to determine A
so A is the matrix i'm trying to find. X is supposed to be the column vector where it goes from [x,y,z] -> [y,x, x+y+z/3]. but i still dont understand the later parts do you perhaps have a visual or something i could search up to see how to actually set up my matrix to get those equations
like this, multiplied by the column vector X gives the other one you wrote
do the matrix multiplication AX, this gives the left hand sides of the equations
so i do this times x,y,z?
it's ok, you're learning the conventions and stuff yet it seems
yea its pretty slow in lectures but the hw are on stuff we havent covered
so i multiply the 3 x 3 matrix to the x y z?
a11x+a12y+a13z = y
a21x+a22y+a23z = x
a31x+a32y+a33z = x+y+z/3 like that?
im going to be honest idk if i can do that 😅
u mean you don't know why is that valid?
so liek when you say setting values i assign x,y,z random numbers which is always true for the vector we want?
it's kinda like you have a function f given by f(x) = x^2 for every x,
so you can set x=1, x=2, x=3 to get f(1) = 1, f(2) = 2^2 = 4, f(3) = 3^2 = 9
AX = that other vector
works for every X, you can set values to it
try x=1, y=z=0 for example and see what you get
Like this?
The right hand terms is the vector we want not the actual result btw incase i wrote it wrong
it's not wrong
what you want to determine is on the left hand side
how do i do that
look at the system you wrote
can you simplify something there? what can you conclude from it?
the first system of equation is 1 = 0 which is false? is that how you mean it
and if i simplify would i apply rref or something
no, you have a a_{1, 1}*1 there
on the left side
of first equation
no i just mean getting rid of the summands that are zero
im sorry im confused
your first equation is
a_{1, 1}*1 + a_{1, 2}*0 + a_{1, 3}*0 = 0
can you simplify a_{1, 2}*0? what number can this be?
same for a_{1, 3}*0
then the first
just 0 right?
a_{1, 1}*1 = 1?
so just a11?
and the other two rows can be simplified the same way right
ye
yes
so that is what you got with the choice
x=1, y=z=0
you can probably guess what other ones can give you the other entries
wdym
other choices of values for x, y, z
so now i try like x = 0, y=z=1?
ahh so do i change it to like x and y = 0 and z = 1?
when i plug these in do i also swap for the new values i got for a11,a21,a31
you can plug in the values you got for them
but doesn't matter cuz you're setting x=0
how come a23 isnt 1?
and lastly could i x = z = 0, y=1
i apologize for asking so many simple and obvious question i just haven't picked up linear algebra that well
thank you for being so patient and helping me
isn't a23 gonna be equal to the value you set for x?
yep
u're welcome 💙
This is what im writing am i plugging in things incorrectly?
ignore the red ones lol
so a23 = 0
yeah
but the other values i have written on the left are okay right?
or would a21 be 0 as well
a12 = 1, a22 = 0?
yeah
2nd and 3rd columns are swapped
you found 3rd column after the first, and then the 2nd column
yes
you can check by multiplying it to column[x y z]
ofc it's pretty much what we already done but now they're numbers hehe
by the way
for future reference, if you have a 3x3 matrix A
then A is completely determined by the 3 images
Ae1, Ae2, Ae3
where e1 = column[1 0 0], e2 = column[0 1 0], similar for e3
this is the canonical basis for a 3-dimensional vector space R^3 (or C^3, C complex numbers, or any field really)
Ae1 is the first column of A, Ae2 is the second, Ae3 is the third
this is what we did
when setting x=1, y=z=0 we were calculating Ae1, which is the first column of A
etc
Ohhh ok that makes sense
Ill keep that in mind
Thank you 🙏🏽 for spending hours with me 😭i would have never got this on my own
I appreciate it so much
nice that i could help! : )))