I`ve noticed that the the overall quality of crops harvested with the auto sfh is noticeably lower than if I use the scythe to harvest the crops. I have osmium quality seeds and with the scythe I usually get gold, osmium and a few silver crops. With the auto harvester I constantly also get bronze and base quality crops. The rate of osmium crops also lowers dramatically. The drop in quality is so big that it makes the auto harvester feature absolutely worthless and unusable.
Reproduction: Have osmuim quality seeds. Plant the seeds in two groups, one will be harvest with the auto sfh, the other manually. after the harvest compare the crop quality. To make it obvious, do this with different crops and on a larger scale.
Repro Rate: Always happens when I use automated harvesting.
PC, Steam; Mouse/ Keyboard; V1.1b-1232.
Attached: save file from harvesting day and pictures taken of the content of the auto harvester.
Note: my inventory contains harvested with the scythe that day as a comparison.
#Auto SFH lowers quality of harvest
dry ruin
vital flame
your farmer skills and echantments also take into account with ur scythe but NOT anything that its automated
rancid drum
Just backing up what @vital flame said, this is why I still mine by hand instead of doing explosives - my pickaxe is so good that I get so much more ore manually.
You're also not going to get any seeds back with the auto stuff if you have that skill unlocked
dry ruin
I'm aware of it. But I find the drop in quality still to big. Plus the ranching skills still trigger even though I have it fully automated. Plus I haven't noticed a quality difference in hand picking crops and with the scythe, so the scythe doesn't make the difference.
rancid drum
I'm aware of it. But I find the drop in quality still to big. Plus the ranching ...
I mean ok, but that's not a bug that's a feature request for SFH parity with tool enchantments.
reef falcon
It's not really a bug.
It's more a balance of Convenience <or> Perk Bonuses
open lance
and tbh, the harvest attachment is annoying to click through. and just go spinning top with the sickle is easier
rocky meteor
i disagree with the folks saying this isn’t a bug. because like op says, quality and skill bonuses still apply when using the auto-collector for ranching. our skill bonuses have nothing to do with our tools, it’s just the enchantments that apply only to tools. and afaik there aren’t any enchantments that affect crop quality anyway. it’s frustrating that there hasn’t been a dev response in this thread to clarify what’s going on
reef falcon
I figured the Enchantment they meant being the Extra Drop one that can be put on scythe.
Seed upgrades don't guarantee that level crop grows, just higher chance to, and the perks you unlock make more sense to me to not apply to crops that you don't harvest yourself.
Adding fertilizer brings in plenty more of the higher quality, even if you use the auto.
rocky meteor
when i tested this, using osmium crops with osmium fertilizer gave me all gold or osmium level crops when harvested with the scythe, generally about 50-60% osmium. but with the auto-harvest i’d get all the way down to bronze and base quality sometimes and typically have more gold than osmium crops. that’s a huge drop in quality even with the best fertilizer. and even if fertilizer could fix the issue, why should we have to invest in the most expensive fertilizer just to use auto-harvest? as the game stands now, auto-harvest is basically pointless. i only unlock it and auto-sfh so i only need one attachment for my seeds and fertilizer
reef falcon
That's kinda the thing, though.
The auto planter/harvester ensures all get done with no energy cost, and with no time put into it, while going by hand takes more energy and more time, but you get more high quality, and have the chance to have the Replant trigger for a free seed.
Like I said above, I figure it to be a balance of Convenience or Perks.
If all of the perks worked for the Automation, why would anyone harvest by hand?
rocky meteor
That's kinda the thing, though.
The auto planter/harvester ensures all get done...
idk does anyone collect by hand instead of using the auto-collector? what’s the point of having upgrades if we’re not supposed to use them?? is there a downside to using any of the other automations that i’m unaware of??
reef falcon
idk does anyone collect by hand instead of using the auto-collector? what’s the ...
I'll gather by hand if I need a higher number of higher quality for the above-mentioned reasons, even if usually in smaller quantities.
Like most things, To Each Their Own.
You're not necesarilly 'supposed' to use them. Just. You can if you want. They're there to use if you so choose. Or if you choose not to, then you can go manual.
It's a Game, play it how ya like, lol.
rocky meteor
I'll gather by hand if I need a higher number of higher quality for the above-me...
i was referring to the ranching auto-collector, which i haven’t heard of anyone choosing not to use since it doesn’t kill all your skill bonuses when you have it. i harvest everything by hand bc i’m unwilling to lose that much quality for auto-harvest. that doesn’t mean it’s not a bug. and tbh unless you work for the devs i don’t see why you keep coming back here to argue that it can’t possibly be a bug when we’re looking for a DEV RESPONSE to clarify whether this is a bug or the intended way auto-harvest is meant to function
reef falcon
No one ever said it 'can't possibly be', and stating a percieved point isn't arguing? But go off I guess?
rocky meteor
again, if you are not on the dev team then your continued “statements not arguments” are completely pointless?? idc what you personally think about auto-harvest, i care whether this is a bug or its intended function, and if you’re not on the dev team then your contributions are not helpful whatsoever
reef falcon
Wow, much hostile
rancid drum
Dude out of all the things to get mad about, this is not one of them.
rocky meteor
yeah i admit i did in fact get irritated that here in the bug report channel every time i saw this thread was updated it wasn’t, in fact, a dev response to a potential bug, but was just someone repeatedly stating the same opinion they’d shared before, and in what came across as a fairly condescending manner. this isn’t the general chat or questions & helps or some other discussion channel. i’m not following this thread to discuss the merits of auto-harvest, i’m following the thread to see whether auto-harvest/sfh tanking crop quality is a bug and if so, whether that bug will be fixed