#Warscore from Occupied Holdings should scale with the size of the Occupied Realm

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mortal barn
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When an Empire is a over 200 realm size, occupying a mere 12 counties, just over 2% of the relevant territory, should not be sufficient to win the war outright, regardless of battles or holding the objective. But that is currently the case, at least with popular uprisings.

This seems highly unintuitive and possibly unintended, so I flagged it as a bug, but even if it's working as intended, it should absolutely be changed. It makes absolutely no sense that a ruler would feel compelled to submit to their demands under such a circumstance, and the peasants were absolutely not in a position to actually enforce demands.

I'd suggest that similarly to how warscore from battles is scaled to the size of the army, warscore from occupation should scale to the size of the realm. It makes sense that some holdings like the ruler's demesne or capital would be worth more, but it makes no sense that briefly holding a few castles and on the outskirts of a large empire could be used to demand control over the majority of that empire's land.

kind kernel
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I get your point, but it feels like you are raging over a loss. I think the system is fine as is

mortal barn
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I'm angry because that gamestate shouldn't be considered a loss, and it makes no sense that it is

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And also it looks like it might actually be a bug? Looking at the defines.txt for how warscore is supposed to be defined, it's supposed to scale with realm size.

It's supposed to be calculated as follows, according to the comments in the defines file:

Occupied Counties * (0.04 + (1 / Total Counties)) * 90

This implies that the peasants ought to have ~48% warscore from occupation, not 124%

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As per NWar in 00_defines.txt

kind kernel
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I does scale with realm size somewhat already. You’re suggesting it scales further?

mortal barn
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It seems like the scaling is broken somewhere.

Basically, every barony is supposed to grant warscore based on the fraction of the empire held, plus a small amount (specifically, 0.04*90, which is 3.6). That isn't happening here. The empire is 208 realm size, so each county occupied should only give ~0.4 scaled warscare, and 3.6 flat, for 4 total.