Fix Land of Toads arc | Nin Online | Page 1

vale oak Jan 9, 2025, 10:48 PM

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Drop rate is way too low and mobs do way too much damage for a level 30-32 player.

Either increase the drop rate or decrease hp/damage.

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:13 AM

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As an example:
Hawks have 330HP with the following abilities

Basic Attacks - dealing 78 Damage
Body Flicker Jutsu - teleports front of you

Racoon Bandits have 460HP with the following abilities

Body Flicker - warps to you
Wind Barrage - 238 damage
Basic Attacks - 85 damage + pushback
Leaf Genjutsu - Stun you and deal 1 dmg

A level 30 to 33ish player on average has between 450 and 600HP. I don't think it's balanced at all that these mobs deal that much damage. HP wise, Hawks can be reduced to 280 imo, but Racoons need huge tweaks on HP. Their HP should be around the 350 mark tops, not more.

Ability wise, hawks are fine. Racoon bandits on the other hand need to have the Wind Barrage nerfed. I got combo'd by Racoon Bandits a couple of times and Leaf Genjutsu + Wind Barrage takes down 50% of your HP and sometimes you don't have a chance to react.

If y'all have more suggestions, please do voice them below.

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:44 AM

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@merry yarrow @jolly phoenix

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:47 AM

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We don’t make those changes. This would have to go through and be approved by @forest raptor

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:48 AM

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I know, it's just that I need opinions on stuff. Maybe I got some numbers wrongs etc

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:48 AM

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Feathers 🪶 was the only true pain I had playing 30 ark as a player lol

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If I’m being honest

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I usually bought feathers with ryo

lavish cobalt Jan 10, 2025, 4:49 AM

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Would say just farm the bosses for the drops but at level 32 that's not practical

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:49 AM

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What mastery were you?

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:49 AM

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Wm /med/ tai /bubble

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And fan

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Never really liked int

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:50 AM

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2 years ago when I was fire and then water, I had 0 problems farming them. But I guess Rory did some changes and now as a melee mastery it so hard to do them solo

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I was with a friend

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who is water

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we both had troubles

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then we got a 60

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it was decent then

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:50 AM

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What mastery ? Tai?

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:50 AM

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gf

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:50 AM

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Or WM

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Ah

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In my experience and you probably already know this tools is what got me through a lot of the PVE as a WM or tai

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Well tai GF

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Which is a pain

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:51 AM

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True

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:51 AM

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And expensive

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:53 AM

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But yeah, in general there has to be something done about them. Took 5 hours between normal mobs and the boss mobs to finish the collect quests

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Which imo isn't normal

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:55 AM

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You’re a solo player I presume?

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:55 AM

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duo

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:55 AM

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Ah

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It’s rough for solo and duo players that I do agree. Most of my play throughs I did were solo or buying the items. Farming drops from 🐸 in 20 ark but yeah 30 ark feels like a long long arc due to all the required drops

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:57 AM

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Maybe the drop rates are fine, but hp and damage on certain mobs isn't in my opinion

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:57 AM

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So do you think that changing the mobs HP or their dmg would be better?

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Read your mind muahahahhaa

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:57 AM

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ahahahha

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I do think so

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A fast example

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:58 AM

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Which would be better in your opinion

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Dmg decrease

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Or HP

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:58 AM

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i think dmg

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we could kill them quite fast if we had luck of not getting hit

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but if the racoon hits me twice

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im down to 10% hp

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from like 640

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and thats 2 hits

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:59 AM

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What mastery is your partner?

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 4:59 AM

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water

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 4:59 AM

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You have both subs? Or you’re playing full str?

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Just curious is all

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:00 AM

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He has sub, I don't and i'm like 60 fort, 100 str

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:00 AM

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You don’t have the basic sub ?

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:01 AM

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Nah, didn't bother to get it. But I haven't had troubles escaping

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:01 AM

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Well the sub can help you do more dmg to mobs

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That might be part of your issue

jolly phoenix Jan 10, 2025, 5:01 AM

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Ill look into the raccon bandits, but otherwise the rest of the arc is fine, its not meant to be easy its meant to be a challenge

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:01 AM

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That's for sure, I understand it

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:02 AM

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It’s critical for close up masteries

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A sub will get you getting hit less and doing more dmg

manic saffron Jan 10, 2025, 5:02 AM

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ngl, the raccoon boss is challenging to lvl 60 players sometimes

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if you don't pay attention and manage chakra well, it's bye bye
might be skill issue on my side tho

jolly phoenix Jan 10, 2025, 5:03 AM

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the raccoon bandit and boss are rough so i can agree to adjusting them

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:03 AM

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As I said, it's the genjutsu and the barrage of the Racoon Bandits that are too OP. Even if I had sub and he basic attacks me, then genjutsu and barrage, that's 60% of my HP gone

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in an instant

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:03 AM

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Also please get the basic sub and use it in your kit.

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You’ll thank me later

jolly phoenix Jan 10, 2025, 5:03 AM

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^

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:03 AM

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I will

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:04 AM

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Sub melee+tool

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Run charge repeat

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To keep it simple

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Add onto that

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With certain insta cast jutsu if Gf has any

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You’ll be smacking mobs a lot more using that

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:05 AM

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We'll see what Rory thinks tho

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:06 AM

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Your partner is int water ? He/she should be melting if so

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And if you both spam tool too

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Oof

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:07 AM

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He likes to randomly run away when I try to cast my abilities 🤣

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We are still adjusting to our sync

merry yarrow Jan 10, 2025, 5:07 AM

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Welp that’s not going to help lol

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The raccoon boss is intimidating

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But he will adapt

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lol

vale oak Jan 10, 2025, 5:08 AM

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I pray for that day 🤣

#Fix Land of Toads arc