#Manga stuff

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velvet cypress
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Skills from the manga of demon slayer for hinokami like zenitsu 7th form , more accurate sun breathing skills ,etc have an infinity castle arc inside the game aswell

raven mason
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..
atleast tell for which game u are talking
i mean only 4 words are not enough to explain what u want

barren crystal
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This isn't an actual suggestion and following the content of the manga is a good way to ruin the game since DS is trash

velvet cypress
velvet cypress
indigo spruce
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LOL

barren crystal
velvet cypress
barren crystal
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The combat systems are inconsistent, the plot armor is severe

velvet cypress
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We all entitled to our own opinions gang YUP

barren crystal
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Nothing about demon slayer is good, the only thing you call good is the animation studio that produced the anime

barren crystal
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You can enjoy garbage, that doesn't stop it from being garbage

rough tangle
velvet cypress
rough tangle
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Wdym no stakes you clearly didn’t pay any attention

velvet cypress
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Hajime no ippo clears

rough tangle
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Ok well yeah Hajime no ippo is good

wind solstice
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Games not following demonshitter

gusty flume
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Damn I just yapped

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Oh well

barren crystal
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It's been stated that the game is sekiro and ds inspired, not based

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If we follow the logic of the story/lore, it would not be good in any way

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I do not recall Higo stating that

gusty flume
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I can post a ss but it’s in red

barren crystal
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Nor do I recall that being the case from when I tested

barren crystal
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Higo also didn't watch or read much ds

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Only reason he is doing ds stuff is his brother

gusty flume
gusty flume
barren crystal
barren crystal
gusty flume
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I see

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Strange to have the infinity castle then

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But like you said it’s prob his brother or something

barren crystal
raven mason
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i think going completely with manga and supressing other ideas is terrible
there should be some creativity

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i think the game has best content ever and other stuff should be left for future updates if the devs want to add these content

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and for inf castle arc,
game already has an inf castle

twilit pier
fiery bluff
rough tangle
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I mean I would rather them put their own twists and ideas to it then it just being straight up ds

wind solstice
fiery bluff
fiery bluff
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which so far seems to be the case hopefully

twilit pier
rough tangle
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wise bluffBOT
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LevelUp blessings4eva You’ve Reached Level 6

carmine quail
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that’s about it

naive gate
wise bluffBOT
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LevelUp rayapt You’ve Reached Level 7

naive gate
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it is not that serious

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demon slayer was successful as a manga so it's clearly not just animation carried

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you just have some weird vendetta against demon slayer cause calling it garbage is crazy

twilit pier
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Lowk

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A simple story ≠ bad

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barren crystal
barren crystal
naive gate
barren crystal
naive gate
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waiting for these facts

barren crystal
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If you're going to read through what was previously said to reply and try to feel involved, read everything that was said, as all the points were already made

naive gate
barren crystal
naive gate
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Not facts

barren crystal
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Reread if you think that

naive gate
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what u said was an opinion, you'd be lying if you said everyone would agree wtih you

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you're like the 0.1% of people who hate demon slayer

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i dont even think you hate it i think u just like disagreeing for no logical reason

barren crystal
gusty flume
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Cuz you could have the opinion that demon slayer is great and any flaws you pointed out just aren’t true aside from like manga sales or something like that

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Even if to most they are true, if someone just doesn’t think so and believes otherwise they’ll say demon slayer is great

barren crystal
gusty flume
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Tell that to any dragonball fan

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Was good in the beginning but now it’s just..

naive gate
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being...

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your opinion

barren crystal
barren crystal
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Not for the actual story

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They're more aware than most when their story is bad and are generally willing to admit it, especially after being provided evidence

naive gate
barren crystal
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ah yes, using logic and comparisons to grade things is an opinion

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using an actual qualitative reasoning is just an opinion

naive gate
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yeah u get it now, there's opinions and reasoned arguments, glad to see u understasnd now

rough tangle
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For me it’s introducing things and forgetting about it and it’s never important again like the slayer rankings is not important at all because if you aren’t a main character your a grunt

barren crystal
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you know, the thing school teaches you is a way to factually grade and use realistic reasoning o form a factual score

naive gate
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what are you yapping about bro

barren crystal
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your reading comprehension is very lacking if you think my points are grounded in opinion

naive gate
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you're trying to sound smart but u cant form a sentence properly

barren crystal
naive gate
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everything u said was an opinion

barren crystal
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how so

naive gate
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u want a definition of what an opinion is?

barren crystal
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no, I want you to explain how my points are opinions

naive gate
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because that's what u think, u havent made arguments just said everything is garbage and shit

barren crystal
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except I have made explanations and have not just said it's all garbage and shit

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like I said, go reread things before blindly making a fool of yourself

naive gate
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nice deflect

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bro does everything but explain why he has that opinion

barren crystal
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I have already explained in depth how it is bad compared to other similar stories and other simple ones

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I have compared and used explanations, if you lack the ability to go back and read the explanations, that is your fault

naive gate
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it's fine to be wrong bro, dw about it

barren crystal
naive gate
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'I use random emojis when I have no way to respond' ahh

barren crystal
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if you looked, you would see there were logical and reasonable explanations

naive gate
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i looked, there wasn't

barren crystal
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that's how I know you haven't looked

naive gate
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no i looked it was just opinion

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u just called everything about demonslayer shit and poorly written, that's an opinion not 'factual'

barren crystal
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I did a lot more than that and had many other points

naive gate
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no u didnt

barren crystal
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so like I had said, go read what was said

naive gate
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I keep telling u man, I read it, just cause u cant make a proper argument doesnt mean u need to take ur anger out on me yk

barren crystal
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nothing about this is anger, just telling you that you clearly didn't read it if you think there was no explanation

naive gate
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I read it, it was an opinion

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like i said, ur allowed to have an opinion just stop thinking everyone gonna agree with u

barren crystal
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no, an opinion would be "I don't like demon slayer because I'm not a fan of the style"

naive gate
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yeah exactly u get it now

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so what's the issue, u have an opinion

barren crystal
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never said everyone had to agree with me, but demon slayer is genuinely bad

naive gate
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yeah and that's ur opinion

barren crystal
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naive gate
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no u put it in quotes to give an example of what an opinion would be like

naive gate
barren crystal
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no, it's a statement

naive gate
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well it is a statement made by you which is an objective opinion for everyone

barren crystal
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you can compare it logically and factually to other stories and the only spots it is above average in are animation and manga sales

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manga sales are not a representation of quality, just popularity

naive gate
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it has to be good to be popular

barren crystal
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no

naive gate
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no one would buy it if it was shit yk

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unless it became a meme

barren crystal
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that's not how anything works, popularity does not tie to quality

naive gate
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yeah it doesnt when u use roblox games and stuff as an example

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but manga costs money and no one is gonna spend money on something they think is shit

barren crystal
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the majority of demon slayer's sales were people buying the manga to get ahead on the anime after watching the anime, prior to the anime releasing, it was an unpopular manga

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and a majority of those who bought it to get ahead disliked the manga because it was poorly written and drawn

naive gate
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ur just saying words

barren crystal
naive gate
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that is what ur doing

barren crystal
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you wanted an explanation of how it is bad, I am providing facts

naive gate
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no one would buy the manga to 'get ahead' when u can read it online

barren crystal
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and your counter is the same as it was before

naive gate
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most people buy manga to collect it

naive gate
barren crystal
naive gate
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ur just saying words, anyone can say what u said, u need to provide proof

barren crystal
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since it is illegal

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many people also prefer to just read a physical copy than an online one

naive gate
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if someone wants to get caught up on the anime they just read it online

barren crystal
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that is the small percentage of manga readers across any and every series

barren crystal
naive gate
barren crystal
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work on reading what others say if you're going to try and salvage a losing argument

barren crystal
naive gate
naive gate
barren crystal
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you have access to the internet, you can go and figure it out for yourself

naive gate
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😭 bros asking me to prove his own claims

barren crystal
naive gate
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this is how u know ur wrong, bro doesnt even know if its true himself

barren crystal
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I'm telling you how I found this information, and that if you doubt it, you can go and check for yourself

naive gate
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idk if u did any arguments before but the burden of proof is on you since it's ur claim

barren crystal
naive gate
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i have no reason to validate what u said, it's ur job since it's ur claim

naive gate
barren crystal
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you're going on a tangent rather than actually continuing the topic because you realized that you cannot get past my statements without just pulling your usual "I don't agree so this is an opinion"

naive gate
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you made a stupid claim and ur refusing to show proof for it

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which is legit the core part of ur argument, so if u cant prove it we cant continue

barren crystal
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I told you how I found my information, I'm not going to waste time going back through and linking every source for somebody who cannot understand how to properly read and comprehend things that are said

naive gate
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it's not my job to validate ur wild claims

barren crystal
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no, I'm just not wasting my time on somebody who cannot even pay attention in school

naive gate
barren crystal
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not lashing out at all, just making a statement

naive gate
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no u were lashing out, that was a very emotional 'statement'

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its fine to get mad just sit off somewhere and relax idk

barren crystal
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not emotional at all

naive gate
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yeah whatever u say man

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dont gotta admit, just gotta relax yk

barren crystal
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it's a blunt statement, I have better things to do than redo research for somebody that doesn't pay attention in school

naive gate
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yeah and now ur mad again

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u need to control ur emotions, it's just a miniscule argument bro

barren crystal
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emotional would be trying to be aggressive about it rather than just making a statement

naive gate
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yeah and ur annoyed and being aggressive

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you're insulting me because you have nothing of value left to say

barren crystal
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you would learn more about understanding emotion via text if you had paid attention in school

barren crystal
naive gate
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people tend to insult when losing arguments

barren crystal
naive gate
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you are

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you're being snarky and passive aggressive

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low iq traits ^^

barren crystal
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not being passive aggressive, just being honest and not sugar coating things that are the truth

naive gate
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no ur being passive aggressive

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but thanks for that pointless input ig

barren crystal
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no, like I had said

naive gate
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no ur being passive aggressive nothing wrong with that just time to cool down yk

barren crystal
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I'm stating how things are bluntly, no point in sugar coating the truth

naive gate
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we can just remove passive and leave it as aggressive

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if that's fine with u, idm what u call it

barren crystal
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also not being aggressive either

naive gate
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i'd say emotionally violent is a better word then

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more fit for ur petite vocabulary, right?

barren crystal
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also not being emotionally violent either

naive gate
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a lot of opinions today huh

barren crystal
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if either of us has been passive aggressive this entire time, it would be you

naive gate
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nope

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it's definitely been you man

barren crystal
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shrug believe what you will

naive gate
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^^ denial right there

carmine quail
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Parkinson’s Law of Triviality

lean basalt
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Demon Slayer is doodoo

Point 1: I say so
Point 2: refer to point 1
Point 3: I'm not replying to anything regarding it, but the Roblox games that come from it can be cool SOMETIMES.
Point 4: dragged on joke, just like the series.
Point 5: refer to point 1 🤓☝️

median turret
# barren crystal The backstories are awful, some even reused, the characters are static and 2d, t...

Eventhough DS does have quite a lot of flaws within the story and how its written (thanks to the author being rushed by Shonen JumpPepeHands ) , I believe that the stories (though sometimes similar) are not necessarily re-used, and more importantly, actually explains why the characters behave the way that they do.

For instance with Rui, up until the mountain arc and up until (around the time) of his death, we see him as a sinister and pretty cruel minor villain; however, despite the fact that a lot of minor villains (like Rui) have sad backstories, they explain the character motivations pretty well and it gets nicely woven into the character's respective themes, (for instance, during the arc with Rui, the theme was bond + family).
Regardless, a lot of the minor villains do a good job at setting up the stakes, tying back important themes and ultimately progressing the story in an organic manner.

As for the plot's originality and generic-ness, that is more or less an interpretative statement, it could go either way and it really depends on the person and their opinions, biases and whatever else applicable. The Plot of DS, while there are similarities and certain common tropes that are used in the show, the DS story is simple and straightforward and more importantly, compelling. The story is still pretty unique, because despite the fact that, again, the villains at times have sad backstories, these villains in the story are still considered bad guys. Its popular in Japan for a reason cough breaking records for opening day gross, single-day gross, and three- and four-day debuts cough

median turret
# barren crystal The combat systems are inconsistent, the plot armor is severe

The combat system itself doesn't really have many inconsistencies as far as i'm aware (there are a few but i'm assuming that you mean more than a few inconsistencies). The series power system for the DS's is pretty much made of two main components: The total concentration breathing + individual sword forms and the mastery of said forms. Depending on the mastery of the slayer's breathing technique, some fo the effects are more or less visible to others. For instance take Murata, and Giyuu as an example; all of these characters use same breathing techniques, yet with Murata–his mastery and combat strategy are not well enough where the effects of water are felt by the opponents tlike they were with Giyuu, a literal Hashira.

The manga differs pretty noticeably from the anime when it comes to showing off these different sword forms, specifically the effects. in the manga, you could still see some of the effects, but the slashes were the main focus. In the anime on the other hand, they really made the effects stand out and a bit more over exaggerated than it was in the manga, not to forget to mention–certain parts of the effects are extra and anime original so-to-speak. To be fair though, the manga was not able to fully display every slice and swing of the sword as that would have taken some of the intensity of the battles away

wise bluffBOT
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median turret
# median turret The combat system itself doesn't really have many inconsistencies as far as i'm ...

To add on two point that I forgot to mention in the main block of text, even without the effects, the combat system for DS's is overall pretty consistent.

The second point: about plot armour. There isn't really much plot armour, a lot of the things that could be considered/debated on if it is plot armour have counter arguments that logically explain the situation. For instance, the Hashira's couldn't be summoned to one place the same way that Muzan's 12 kizuki could be because; the Hashira have their own districts to oversee and protect–which means that size of their district ultimately impacts their arrival time. As for Muzan, he's arrogant so he kinda tends to make small mistakes that build up.

barren crystal
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Plot armour is also dragonball-esq in how blatant it is that Tanjiro will survive, every fight he gets some new powerup seemingly out of the blue

median turret
# barren crystal The combat systems constantly adjust in a dragonball style powerip manner as the...

While it does adjust a bit, I don’t think it does so without a reasonable explanation. And the thing with balancing, it is suppose to be unbalanced because it’s humans fighting against literal demons; Humans are naturally going to be weaker and need to find other means or even power-ups in order to even be able to fight these demons.

And as for new forms, I think it it really an issue, rather it makes perfect sense, because we don’t see that too many people creating new forms out of the blue. Take for instance Giyuu, he trained for years and truly mastered water breathing, so it makes sense that he’d create a new form. As for Zenitsu, his creation of the 7th form is essentially a derivative of the 1ts form, something which he mastered and essentially perfected. The creations of new forms, at least with the way that they appear in the story, make sense.

barren crystal
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And the powerups aren't just about new forms

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Tanjiro losing a fight, suddenly he has the ability to use pseudo sun breathing

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"Demons can't work together by Muzan's rules" and then we see mountain arc

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barren crystal
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That gets contradicted

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I'm at work right now so it'll be hard to continue this conversation consistently

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barren crystal
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# barren crystal I'm not talking about Rui

Well the thing is, the information that the slayers had about Muzan, realistically speaking, wasn’t always the most accurate. I mean like think about it, most slayers don’t ever meet him face to face (aside from a few exceptions), how would slayers 100% know that a nichirin blade is enough?
Yorichii was able to almost end Muzan because of his insane skills, which has been stated to not have been replicated by any other slayer in the series. This aspect of the story, that some things seem certain but then are revealed to not be as it seems adds necessary tension to the stakes, (I mean like to be fair he and the Upper Three Moons are the final bosses).

barren crystal
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I recall it being stated by the narrator, not a slayer

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barren crystal
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They didn't exist until suddenly the story needed a power boost

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Then suddenly everyone has it

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# barren crystal Then suddenly everyone has it

I wouldn’t say everyone has it, only a few specific characters managed to achieve it, those being the Hashira, who are suppose to be the most skilled. And they didn’t obtain it out of nowhere, they all met the conditions for getting these boosts.

wise bluffBOT
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LevelUp gypsophila4215 You’ve Reached Level 2

barren crystal
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barren crystal
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If it wasn't just a "cool fight" show, the sudden powerup wouldn't fly

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Story wise those powerups came basically from nowhere, them needing them doesn't change that it went from not existing to existing

median turret
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But it does, because at that point the story was reaching the peak and the end, not only that—but in the previous arc, the Hashira training arc, the Hashira and slayers did as much training and research as possible so that they could use it against Muzan.

median turret
# barren crystal Story wise those powerups came basically from nowhere, them needing them doesn't...

Like I said earlier, these boosts didn’t come out of nowhere, the slayers did as much research about the mark and up until the final showdown with Muzan, a majority of the Hashira did not even know about the red blade.
If I recall correctly, it was obanai that realized that Muichiro changed his blade’s colour with the grip; and when he himself achieved the red nichirin, he was very much exhausted and nearly unable to fight.

meager treeBOT
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There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

barren crystal
median turret
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barren crystal
median turret
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Oh I see

barren crystal
median turret
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Well I mean like DS is just a simple story, there isn’t anything particularly groundbreaking. Nontheless it’s still a pretty good story, it does what it came to do and did so nicely.

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barren crystal
median turret
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Personally, and based off of what i’ve read, DS does the simple story well, some of the only complains would be the pacing—but thats more or less because of Shonnen Jump pressuring the author.

naive gate
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that Muzan overcame the weakpoint of a demon

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their head

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Muzan was the first demon to overcome that weakness so it's not surprising no one knew about it till later on

barren crystal
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I wasn't talking about Muzan

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You'd have noticed that if you read

naive gate
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You just mentioned muzan in the message I replied to

naive gate
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I'm convinced you haven't even seen demon slayer

barren crystal
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I'm convinced you haven't read the messages I've sent

naive gate
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I read them dw

barren crystal
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Then you'd already know the answers to 99% of your messages

naive gate
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What answer? I'm not asking a question

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I'm correcting u

barren crystal
naive gate
barren crystal
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Whatever you want to believe

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wise bluffBOT
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LevelUp thecardboardbox0795 You’ve Reached Level 1

barren crystal
river badger
barren crystal
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If you want to think it is, but it isn't said with that intent at all

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indigo spruce
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Chainbound better🗣️

naive gate
raven mason
raven mason
wind solstice
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Scout you do realize you don't have to entertain these guys right

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And you can just not respond

naive gate
wind solstice
barren crystal
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Free comedy shows are always welcome

naive gate
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bro has to be baiting

barren crystal
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Not at all

raven mason