New move for mist-breathing

[stuck birch]

New move for mist breathing
Skill 5 (Mist-death) {change name if you want I am not good with coming up
with names}

Explanation : When skill is activated during tense moments, a large area is covered in mist and players that are trapped in it are paralyzed as the mist is poisoned with paralyzing thing.
The mist breather then starts slashing everyone inside that mist area. People with 10-20% health die, people with above that live with low health and some poisoned effects.

This move will be just like thunder breathing 5th move where instead of attacking in a dome, it's a rectangle type mist

(Not asking it to be exact, you can adjust the things to fairly)

If you have any comments/questions, please don't refrain from asking so.

I will try my best to answer all the doubts.

[tardy warren]

tht will be too op especially if paired with the invisiblilty move though...

[jaunty bone]

insta kill at 30-40%? wtf

an aoe insta kill at near half hp really seemed like a good idea?

[stuck birch]

Invisibility doesn't matter.

[deft kettle]

raylieghion You’ve Reached Level 9

[waxen vine]

oh and it also inf stuns you yeah thats op asf

[stuck birch]

Because as I said it will be like

People in mist, they will have paralyzing effect

And the mist user slashes them all consecutivelu

Just like thunder 5th move

[tardy warren]

u can basically go invisible at the start of the match and pop that skill

[jaunty bone]

so an unescapeable 40% insta kill thats also aoe

[stuck birch]

Hm.

But I added during tense moments

Meaning when low health and all.

To not abuse this move.

[tardy warren]

then they can just do that at low hp

[waxen vine]

yeah but you didnt explain what "tense moments" where

[stuck birch]

I mean

I never specified it to be that

I mentioned there, you can customise things from it

So u can lessen it out

[jaunty bone]

thats exactly what you said i just summerized it

"People with 30-40% health die" "a large area is covered in mist"

[stuck birch]

Well I am not having good perception right now since I haven't played the game much these years.

But of course you can lession it to

10-20%

Just like similar but little more rates than of thunder 5th move

And if this thing happens in a cutscene

Then it would be best

A cutscene would be a godly touch

[jaunty bone]

thunder also has the chance to escape it

[stuck birch]

Well then sure

I mean mostly times u can't escape

So yea

[jaunty bone]

if youre like dead center or the mf knows how to use it

[stuck birch]

But of course adding a little escapeable touch gives more sense of reality too

[jaunty bone]

this one stuns then does the main dmg

[stuck birch]

Just like thunder

[jaunty bone]

thunder's dome does not stun

[stuck birch]

And I would like to use the word paralyzing effect of posion in mist

[stuck birch]

It paralyzes u so u can't move

[jaunty bone]

only the main dmg does when youre hit by it

[waxen vine]

when you get hit by it

not when your in the dome

[stuck birch]

Well of course because how would thunder give paralyzing effect before it is hit

They just create a electric field that cannot do anything to body

But a mist with poison effect that enters your body as you breathe in it and you get paralyzed

That makes it reality as well

[jaunty bone]

this one however stuns the people inside before the damage actually takes place making it unable to be avoided

[stuck birch]

Paralyzing effect but they can still slowly move

[jaunty bone]

then thats just a slowdown

[stuck birch]

Look, with this move

U gotta consider the whole over mist as well

Look at all the current skills of it

They are not good for normal people

Only experienced players, only they can enjoy the current midt

Because they can manage to not die by other toxic people

With this move, normal people not too good with pvp

They would still have chance to survive

Against othets

[jaunty bone]

then learn it. you being bad with mist doesnt mean it needs a aoe high dmg skill

[tardy warren]

then all the toxic people will use mist

[waxen vine]

just learn how to use it then

[deft kettle]

dullstriker You’ve Reached Level 20

[tardy warren]

and make things worse

[stuck birch]

It's not that easy?

[waxen vine]

theres allways gonna be some sort of form of learning curve

[jaunty bone]

it really is

this games pvp is not hard to learn

[stuck birch]

If all moves are just nerfed

Then atleast have one op move

[waxen vine]

that doesnt justify it at all

[stuck birch]

Like the current mist in game and in anime do not match

[bronze furnace]

Okay? The game isn't lore accurate

[waxen vine]

yeah because mist wasnt animated yet

[bronze furnace]

If it was, the game would be utter trash, as that's lore accurate to the manga/anime

[tardy warren]

at least thunder's 5th is esay to escape too

[stuck birch]

And by saying just tell them to get better

You are just creating a barrier of game

To either learn how to play

Or just dont

[waxen vine]

ok so wait

[stuck birch]

The game needs to be enjoyable

[waxen vine]

there will allways be a barrier in games

[stuck birch]

Not serious at all times

[waxen vine]

people that tend to learn there builds more will ofc do better

not even serious its just how games work

[stuck birch]

But normal players that just want to happily play game with the breathing they likem

Many people like mist breathing but they don't use it in game because

How bad it is currently for them to use

[jaunty bone]

then dont pvp. pvp in every game would require you to learn how to use whatever youre using.

[stuck birch]

You need to be very experienced to play

[stuck birch]

That's the thing, the pvp is always on

So whenever they just want to roam around

[jaunty bone]

then just dont fight

[stuck birch]

They will get jumped by demon or other breathing player and die

[waxen vine]

ok then just get better at your build

[jaunty bone]

people in this game are not that aggressive

[stuck birch]

They are

Look, all I'm saying is

All breathings should be enjoyable to use

And thus this move needs to be added

So not only mist breathing can get it's respect back

[jaunty bone]

i rarely get attacked when standing still for like 30 mins i have no clue what youre talkin about 😭

[waxen vine]

all breathings are enjoyable to use

[stuck birch]

But yeah

[waxen vine]

at least to an exctent

[stuck birch]

I get attacked as soon as I come at rice field

[waxen vine]

extent*

[waxen vine]

then learn your kit better

[jaunty bone]

fight back

[waxen vine]

go into 1v1 mode or look up a video on combos

[stuck birch]

The gyooko art is hard

And as I said , I wanna enjoy the game as well

[jaunty bone]

so learn it or swap it

[stuck birch]

Not just all time pvp and running from others

[jaunty bone]

thats really all thats left in this game

after you level up theres nothin to do beside pvp

[stuck birch]

You can normally enjoy the game as well

Interact with others, help others etx

And as I said

I am not asking for 5th move to be exact like I said

I am just giving overview

U can change it to

Whatever feels right

Like guys, if u remove the posion effect and all

What do u think about the overall move

A 5th form similar to thunder

Doesn't that sounds cool?

And a good move for mist to be recognized

[waxen vine]

mist is already recognized tho

its still really good

[stuck birch]

On average how many mist users do you see

Every time u log on

0

[jaunty bone]

there was one last time i logged in before today

[waxen vine]

I mean thats not a good reason there are other breathings and also demons

[stuck birch]

Ye

But mist deserves a good move too

[jaunty bone]

and a majority are demons because of douma bda

[bronze furnace]

We want people to actually play the game rather than brainlessly putting in 0 effort and copying how others play?

[stuck birch]

Well that's the mostly case with other breathings.

Look at fire, so overpowered.

That's why there are always just fire users, and if you add just 1 op move to the skill set of mist.

What's wrong in that?

You know thay rest 4 aren't that easy to use at good advantage.

Like the move is litteraly only used when user is low on health.

[stuck birch]

Let's just have the midt 5th move like thunder 5th move but instead of dome it's a rectangle area.

And damages a little more than that.

And have some unique things.

That's the motive, what's wrong with that?

I am not saying players shoudn't put a single effort to learn but

You and we all know mist is unusable by beginners

[bronze furnace]

Flame 5th has a health requirement to activate and last I heard, is fully blockable, and interruptable, and pbable I believe

[bronze furnace]

All the other moves are pretty easy to use

[stuck birch]

I am also saying make mist a low health thing.

It activates when user is on low health.

[bronze furnace]

You said make mist instant kill other players that are low

[bronze furnace]

Auto activation? You're just trying to not consider balancing at all

[stuck birch]

Thunder 5th move does that

[stuck birch]

Auto activates I mean like you can only use skill when you meet requirement

[bronze furnace]

Thunder 5th does like 20% and doesn't stun immediately, it's easy to escape

If you're get caught by thunder 5ths, that's a you problem

[stuck birch]

I am just saying

Making it something like that

[bronze furnace]

Don't try to suggest horrificly bad balancing just because you've got bad reactions

[stuck birch]

I am just saying make it like that

And also it would be cool move

[bronze furnace]

It would be horribly op

[stuck birch]

I never said do whag I said

[bronze furnace]

And hence would be stupid to add

[stuck birch]

I just don't know much so I added

[bronze furnace]

Then why make the suggestion?

[stuck birch]

U can customize it however

[stuck birch]

I am suggesting the idea of having that move

[bronze furnace]

If you're just going to suggest trash intentionally, why suggest anything?

[stuck birch]

Describing what it should do

[bronze furnace]

Then don't give damage or details?

[stuck birch]

But Dev's can change what it does to their likng

[bronze furnace]

Give an idea, not an in-depth move

[stuck birch]

I was just giving idea

Of some of it perks

Similar to thunder 5th move

[bronze furnace]

You just clowned yourself by making a horribly balanced move and 360ing to say it's only an idea not a genuine suggestion when people called you out

[bronze furnace]

Except it's not similar?

[stuck birch]

How

[bronze furnace]

By your description, this would be 15x stronger than thunder 5th

I already explained how

[stuck birch]

Thunder does kill at 10-20% health of users

It paralyzes people as well inside the dome

Litteraly the same things I suggested for mobe

[bronze furnace]

And you suggested instant kill at 30-40% with massive area stun allowing the user to attack targets

[stuck birch]

I didn't know it at first, so after understanding I lowered it to 10-20

[bronze furnace]

You also suggested it'd be a quick stun, meaning hard to escape, unlike thunder 5th being very easy to escape

And you suggested it being a large area as well

[stuck birch]

I thought it was 30-40 for thunder as well

[bronze furnace]

Thunder 5th is a small zone

[stuck birch]

Not that small

[bronze furnace]

It is

You can dash out of it

[stuck birch]

U can't when paralyzed

[bronze furnace]

It's less radius than most dash moves

[bronze furnace]

There are two or three seconds before it paralyzes?

[stuck birch]

Nah

Atmost 1-1.5 second

[bronze furnace]

If you're getting caught in a thunder fifth, you've got some horrible reaction timing

[bronze furnace]

Not at all LOL

It's plenty of time to escape

Whether by dashing or using a move

You can even walk out of it half the time

It's an extremely easy move to counter

[stuck birch]

Because that's a bug

[bronze furnace]

No?

The move has a windup, you can walk out during the windup?

That's called balancing? Making it so you can escape the move

[stuck birch]

That's a bug in cutscnee

[bronze furnace]

[stuck birch]

The reason there is gap because player is in cutscene

[bronze furnace]

No

[stuck birch]

So of course it will take time

[bronze furnace]

There is a windup because making it an instant full aoe move would be stupid as shit

And the windup gives players time to escape

Like I'd previously said

[stuck birch]

And also I mentioned that we can add it as well

To mist thing

[bronze furnace]

You need to work on your overall understanding of things, and learn to make better suggestions rather than backtracking when everyone calls it bad

[stuck birch]

Not everyone

Just cuz 3 people fought doesn't mean 141k will say it's bad

2 people liked the idea of it yesterday

[bronze furnace]

And whose to say those 141k aren't similar to you in a lack of understanding for balancing?

Most of those would rather be handed something op than have it be balanced

[stuck birch]

I think if I said makke it similar to thunder

Then it pretty much means just like

[bronze furnace]

They'd also say no because copying a move is lame

[stuck birch]

The things in the dome move

[stuck birch]

Copying a move?

It's not lame

[bronze furnace]

"Make mist have thunder 5th but reskinned"

That's lame

[stuck birch]

It's not

[bronze furnace]

Nobody wants a copycat kit

They want originality

And quality

[stuck birch]

It's called actually working out and trying to give nerfed breathing

A buff

[bronze furnace]

Nerfed?

Mist is completely fine?

[stuck birch]

It's not

[bronze furnace]

It is though?

[stuck birch]

It's only for pro

[bronze furnace]

Not at all

It's easy to use (everything in the game is easy to use)

[stuck birch]

Not a single move syncs in

[bronze furnace]

Anybody 11 or older with a few braincells could easily use it

[stuck birch]

Mist is hard to use in pvp

[bronze furnace]

The moves are easy combo extenders and flow into m1s well

[stuck birch]

For normal players, they always die by ithers

With mist, only pro people can use mist at advantage

[bronze furnace]

That's because normal players are too dumb to pb

[bronze furnace]

No

If you're going to try to talk on stuff like that, properly inform yourself first

[stuck birch]

So u do admit it's hard to fight with mist

[bronze furnace]

As nothing you've just said is correct

[bronze furnace]

No?

[stuck birch]

Only if they know pb they can use it perfectly

[bronze furnace]

It's hard to fight if you're too stupid to play the game

[stuck birch]

That's what your saying

[bronze furnace]

That's what I'm saying

The game is built around pbing, if you can do that, anything will be good

If you can't, anything will be ass

[stuck birch]

They are not gonna dispose their life playing 5-6 houra a day to just get better at a lego game

[bronze furnace]

It takes thirty minutes to figure out pbing, at most

[stuck birch]

Never works for me

[bronze furnace]

^

[stuck birch]

Sometimes I die even if I block without them breaking my block

So either I am just lagging most of time

[bronze furnace]

That's called bad reaction timing, almost like I'd mentioned that earlier

[stuck birch]

I can pb in other games tho

Ever heard of game zo?

[bronze furnace]

I've been explaining this stuff the entire time, and you've been acting like a 10 y/o the entire time

[stuck birch]

It's a game also built on pb, you god if you can pb

[bronze furnace]

You mean one of the worst made combat games on roblox made for 8 y/os?

[stuck birch]

Your like rest others if u cant

[bronze furnace]

With some extremely generous pb timing

[stuck birch]

Just because u suck at it doesn't mean it's a bad game

[bronze furnace]

When did I say I sucked?

[stuck birch]

You ranting about it seems like it

[bronze furnace]

I said the combat of the game is low quality and built for the simple minded?

[stuck birch]

It's not?

[bronze furnace]

I made a statement to counteract your comparison

It is, the pb timing is very very generous

[stuck birch]

Nah

[bronze furnace]

The combat is simple beyond simple

It's not a well made game, even compared to rpg2's combat

[stuck birch]

It's just you never got good opponent

[bronze furnace]

The opponent doesn't effect the game's pb timing?

That doesn't change how the game's combat was made?

I'm getting the impression that you're not reading, or lacking the ability to comprehend, anything I say

[stuck birch]

Okay now this is going off topic

So look, overall the move should be considered

For the new game atleast

[bronze furnace]

No

[stuck birch]

Well that's your opinion.

[bronze furnace]

From a balancing, gameplay, and tester standpoint

[stuck birch]

I have explained you everything, in end it's your choice

[bronze furnace]

As well as logical

It doesn't even fit the flow of it either

[stuck birch]

Then make it balanced to what is fair

[bronze furnace]

Which would be making it nothing like what you suggested

[stuck birch]

What do you believe it should have

[bronze furnace]

Like I've been saying, horrible idea

[stuck birch]

What do you believe should be there

Let's consider the base
A move that is activated on low health by player, covers a certain area in a thick dense mist

[bronze furnace]

Mist doesn't need a 5th move in rpg2

[stuck birch]

What about rpg 3

[bronze furnace]

And I'm not going to converse on what fits in Hinokami as I cannot disclose game details

But this doesn't fit at all

[stuck birch]

I mean it sounds cool thougj rihht

The move clearly suits the description of mist

[bronze furnace]

No

It sounds annoying and poorly thought through

And based too heavily on a poor manga

[stuck birch]

?

I made it up like

I didn't even read manga

I haven't even watched the hashira training arc

[bronze furnace]

Yet you said "this would be more accurate to demon slayer's mist"

[stuck birch]

Suits the name

[bronze furnace]

Ah yes, another 180

[stuck birch]

And what's the need to always stick to manga

You yourself said originality

Matters, copying is lame

Then why are you saying it should only be based on manga

[bronze furnace]

You're the one who implied the need?

[stuck birch]

When

[bronze furnace]

I'm saying to stay as far from demon slayer as possible as it's a horrible story and has inconsistent combat systems

[stuck birch]

I think the move I'm saying is not even mentioned in manha

I mean that's what the guy said, it doesn't exist

[bronze furnace]

^

[stuck birch]

Dam

[bronze furnace]

Caught in your own lie bud

[stuck birch]

I mean

[stuck birch]

😭

I went two opinion topic dam

[bronze furnace]

Like I said a few times, you've been 180ing to try and cover for yourself the entire time, I'm not an idiot

[stuck birch]

I changed the sides

[bronze furnace]

Go pay attention in school

[stuck birch]

It's sunday

You just said it's not balancing at all

Then tell whats balancing for it

What should be actual

I will listen fully

And consider what you say

@bronze furnace

[bronze furnace]

I've already answered this

[stuck birch]

You just found flaws in idea

U never suggested good idea for it

What should be there in place of thag

[bronze furnace]

And I said nothing about the move id balanced, I made it obvious the move as a whole wouldn't work well in a game

[stuck birch]

U never said that

[stuck birch]

It would, the base thing is clear. The perks is what you have problem with

So suggest what perks should be there instead

[bronze furnace]

A full aoe stun attack allowing external attacks is stupid, and mist genuinely doesn't need a fifth

[stuck birch]

If u cant mention, then it clearly means your just a negative thinker thay only finds flaws in people idea's, doesn't like hearing solution or giving advise

[bronze furnace]

It functions completely fine with the four moves

[stuck birch]

I asked for suggestion advise

Not a flaw

[bronze furnace]

^ read everything that is said bud

It doesn't need a fifth move, it's kit functions well wothout one

[stuck birch]

Your just trying to remove this idea of 5th move

[bronze furnace]

?

[stuck birch]

Your not giving the advise, what should instead be there

[bronze furnace]

I'm explaining that the kit doesn't need a fifth?

[stuck birch]

Instead of perms mentioned by me

[stuck birch]

Bro just

[bronze furnace]

It has the ability to infinite combo already, it's combos are strong, mobility is fine, just got a big boost to the mobility too

[stuck birch]

Just say what should be there instead of the things you find flaw in

[bronze furnace]

Nothing about the mist kit needs (or needed) to be changed?

[bronze furnace]

Nothing should be there, like I just said bud

It doesn't need a fifth skill

Read what is being said

[stuck birch]

See, you just don't want this move to be there

[bronze furnace]

Use your brain cells

[stuck birch]

You should be instead helping here with what should be there

[bronze furnace]

Because it doesn't need a fifth skill, the kit is fine without it?

[stuck birch]

In things u find flaw in

[stuck birch]

That's a final opinion from u, but I need advise

[bronze furnace]

You really need to work on your reading comprehension, I answered your question with explanations

[stuck birch]

Advise on what else should be there

[bronze furnace]

The advice is it doesn't need a fifth skill

[stuck birch]

You need to stop ranting about things

[bronze furnace]

Read what is being said bud

[stuck birch]

And support people idea

[bronze furnace]

You asked, I answered, you ignored the answer, asked for the answer despite having received it already

[stuck birch]

I never ignored your answrr for not having a 5th move

[bronze furnace]

Except you did?

[stuck birch]

U keep ignoring my statement of asking you your advise

[bronze furnace]

You asked for advice, I gave advice

Advice isn't always what you want to hear

It's the truth

[stuck birch]

I have accepted that

[bronze furnace]

"But you need to give me advice"

[stuck birch]

Your just all talk, you don't have a single originality idea

All you can do is find flaw instead of finding the solution

[bronze furnace]

I explained with reasoning for why it doesn't need a fifth skill

I quite literally did what you were asking for bud

[stuck birch]

You also explained what's the flaw in the idea

[bronze furnace]

The solution is to not give it a fifth, as there is no need for it

[stuck birch]

So all I'm asking is what should be there

[bronze furnace]

Again, and read careful this time, nothing

Quit asking the same question without reading the answer you are given

[stuck birch]

Your the one being dumb here but alright

Thanks for your "opinion"

[bronze furnace]

How so?

I gave you an answer to the question you asked, with an explanation

[stuck birch]

I do not wish to continue this time wasting fight that keeps going off topic

And ruins your image and mine

It's better to stop fighting as many people can see this

[bronze furnace]

You asked what the solution is, I gave you the answer, the solution being that it doesn't need a fifth skill

[bronze furnace]

Nobody is fighting?

[stuck birch]

Seems like you are

[bronze furnace]

We're having a discussion, I'm answering your questions

[stuck birch]

Well your opinion at end is, mist doesn't need 5th skill

[stuck birch]

Never answered my question 2

[bronze furnace]

Nothing here impacts either of our "images"

[bronze furnace]

Except I did?

[stuck birch]

Just gave answer to question 1 (what's your opinion)

In start, you started with saying we cannot have thks midt skill because it's not balanced and all

[deft kettle]

raylieghion You’ve Reached Level 10

[bronze furnace]

Rewrite that in proper english so that it makes sense

[stuck birch]

If you find problem in understand normal english, go to Duolingo to complete your lessons instead of fighting here

[bronze furnace]

That is not normal english at all, nor is the sentence you just wrote

[stuck birch]

It is english? Are you having a seizure or what?

[bronze furnace]

I'm asking you to rewrite the statement in a manner that somebody in at least middleschool would write it

[bronze furnace]

It's not proper english, like I had said

[stuck birch]

This is going off topic again

[bronze furnace]

All I did was ask you to rewrite your sentence in a manner that it is able to be read?

[stuck birch]

Anyone can read it?

It's written in English language

[bronze furnace]

It is not worded properly and your meaning is lost due to that

[stuck birch]

It's not a tribal language

[bronze furnace]

That isn't proper english either

Your grammar is flawed to the degree that it is difficult to understand half your messages without having to guess what you actually meant

So I asked you to rewrite it properly to convey your intent correctly

[stuck birch]

Just because your using grammarly to hide the fact of you being a 9 year old trying to fight everyone you see, doesnt mean your cool and all that

[bronze furnace]

You've been speaking this entire time like you're 11 years old, which makes it challenging to hold a properly conversation

[stuck birch]

It's proper english now stop fighting

[bronze furnace]

All I did was ask you to rewrite your sentence to be more understandable?

[stuck birch]

Wow

[bronze furnace]

I haven't been fighting anyone, I'm just trying to hold a conversation?

[stuck birch]

You have been doing that

Now please stop ruining the actual purpose of this chat

[bronze furnace]

Yes I have been holding a conversation, thank you for confirming it

[stuck birch]

If you want to fight, come to DMs

[bronze furnace]

The chat is to discuss the suggestion

[stuck birch]

Or general chat

[bronze furnace]

Once more, nothint about this was a fight

[stuck birch]

Discuss the suggestion on mist breathing needing to have a 5th move.

[bronze furnace]

Now answer the question, how did I not answer your question?

[stuck birch]

While you are talking here telling me to fix my english

[stuck birch]

Look

[bronze furnace]

I was doing that, I asked you to rewrite a message as it was written in such a poor manner that the intent of your wording was lost

[stuck birch]

My original question was what's your opinion on this, you gave it

That was purpose of this area.

Your opinion on this which you gave

I respect it and understand.

But also

[bronze furnace]

Yet you kept saying I never answered you, that is where my confusion is coming from

[stuck birch]

In start you mentioned about balancing and all, like how all the things I mentioned are unbalanced making it too op and like that

[bronze furnace]

You asked for a solution, I gave it

You then ignored the solution multiple times

[stuck birch]

Which also others player have said, talking to you, I have understood you have a good knowledge about this game

[bronze furnace]

Mist does not need a fifth skill, that's the solution

The kit functions just fine without one, and is equally viable to everything else

[stuck birch]

Yes I understand your opinion

[bronze furnace]

A fifth skill would be an unnecessary addition to the kit

[stuck birch]

I was just back then fixated on the thing you initially said

That the move is too much unbalanced

So I thought you might give me idea as well on what should be removed and added

So more people like the idea

[bronze furnace]

Because it was, also, to write that with better grammar, "that the move is too unbalanced"

[bronze furnace]

The entire idea of a fifth move for mist would be removed

As that isn't necessary as the kit is fairly balanced as is

Like I said, I had answered you all along

I'd be happy to keep repeating the same answer to the same question all night, but I have work in eight hours

[waxen vine]

Im praying that he’s just trolling with all this