Variable Jump Height

[lone maple]

Very simple, makes every game feel better. Tap jump for a short hop, hold jump for a higher jump. The same logic can be applied to a double jump if that's been confirmed.

[sharp verge]

Mario game mechanic

Swear I seen this in some indie game

Alright idea tho

[lone maple]

It exists in much more than just Mario lol

But yeah generally the platformers get the variable jump height stuff

I was thinking hollow knight when I typed this out

But obviously 2d is not 3d

[ornate hamlet]

honestly i think id like a "high jump" instead of a double jump

because with double jumps, normal jumping becomes pointless

so if "high jumping" was added where you held the jump button to charge up a higher and faster jump, exploration wouldnt really be hindered, but at the same time, dodging certain attacks in pvp becomes more strategic

[lone maple]

The only reason I mentioned both jumps is because hollow knight, you can adjust the height of both your single jump and you mid air jump by holding the button

[slender ferry]

Smash mechanic??!?!?!?!!

[gleaming wedge]

So many games have this mechanic

Skyrim, zelda games, smash, super mario games, new pokemon games, sea of thieves, like 95% of large games

[slender ferry]

yeah its a massive mechanic

offers more movement mechanics

adds more layers than youd think for a lot of games

[gleaming wedge]

It just needs to be a lower variable, not a huge difference

[slender ferry]

yeah aslong as the difference isnt massive its usually a good idea

[gleaming wedge]

Smash is the only thing I can think of that succeeds with the large gap and it only has the large gap due to a tech that isn't something casual players usually learn

[slender ferry]

Yeah its great

I love comp smash

Its so much fun

[lone maple]

Makes a game feel more finished

Just like when casual gamers lean when turning in racing games, that same casual will instinctively hold the jump button to jump "more" (higher)

[gleaming wedge]

By the relation used here, I fully expected you to say that they'd jump irl

[ornate hamlet]

no they’d just press the jump button harder

[lone maple]

I've seen both, to be fair 😅

[lone maple]

What a sight that would be

[gleaming wedge]

Gamers jumping is somewhat impossible though

That's physical exercise

[lone maple]

Sounds like the end of the world tbh

I'd like to avoid that if possible

[slender ferry]

Yeah, i dont really leave my chair

I roll it around because it has wheels

When i need to sleep i build up speed to catapult onto my bed which uses all 120000 calories i digested in my last meal

[lone maple]

You too?????

I thought I was the only 5k ton gamer 🤔

[slender ferry]

theres an underground community

but our aura is like a barrier

the spiritual pressure of our gamer musk keeps us from being discovered

[haughty badge]

Honestly and i mean this with all due respect, i think that would just make pvp even more annyoing and precise inputs harder to pull off it does sound nice though.

[gleaming wedge]

That's why I mentioned it'd have to be a very low rangw of extra height

[haughty badge]

Apologies, i didnt read it mate

[gleaming wedge]

all good

[lone maple]

I just had a thought:

Out of combat has variable jump height

In combat, the variable is shrunk to the minimum. This way, running from fights is difficult when you're in one, but running away from somebody in combat can be made easier 🤷‍♂️

[gleaming wedge]

games that do jump fatigue and things like reduced movement in combat always feel very forced

and it also causes lopsided fights when in outnumbers battles

[lone maple]

You know what, that's true and valid. I'm only thinking of 1on1s

In that case, best case scenario would be to make the variable jump just very tiny, and only apple to the ground jump, not the double jump. Just something to make the movement feel a little more "flowy"

[gleaming wedge]

almost like I suggested that be the case 👀

[lone maple]

What can I say, a smart man's ideas are meant to be replicated