Injuries

[versed galleon]

Regen is now impossible, only way to regain hp is to use the breathing heal as slayers or a special move that consumes egregious stamina by demons

Bleeding is dealt upon all moves and m1 finishers unless the demon is using fists, in which case only certain moves (like shockwave's) can afflict bleed.

You can take off enemies limbs with a chance on the final m1. Some moves guarantee it and some moves don't at all. Insect cannot dismember at all which it compensates for which I speak about later.

One arm gone: switch sword hand, some moves disabled and minor bleeding

Two arms gone : zoro your sword in exchange for 50% less damage and attack speed, no moves and major bleed

One leg gone; disabled dash and 50% less speed and minor bleed

Both legs gone: no movement at all and major bleed

Cryokenesis can inflict frostbite, giving a chance for temporary dismemberment and slowing

Poison deals slow and major dot which can't be negated unless one breathes
Demons have their attacking disabled upon both arms gone

Beast katanas and breathing deal intense/internal bleeding, which cannot be easily regenerated and count as their own dismemberment which make them a pain for demons to regenerate

All conditions stack FYI. And a slayer is able to die on the spot but demons must be executed

Overall this makes PVP more intense and precise. One wrong move may cost you your life, meaning you have to be more careful and tactical with your moves, you need to plan, and if you're outmatched you have no choice but to either die for naught or flee

[timber wolf]

i feel like bleeding should be a passive exclusive to a breathing or bda like what you suggested for beast

losing legs would look too ridiculous unless the devs add a severed leg model which stays on your body

[versed galleon]

something along the line of that is what im on

[versed galleon]

A passive exclusive isn't all that

meh, like

[remote plinth]

mistersoup You’ve Reached Level 1

[versed galleon]

The thing is all these weapons cut, meaning bleeding

The entire point is to make every attack risk your life, and having to be careful with what you do

this suggestion is either gonna be horrid for this game or perfect all depending on the combat system

[versed galleon]

@glacial brook certified opp

[versed galleon]

@final scaffold certified opp

[final scaffold]

🤭

[glacial brook]

just a garbage suggestion

[final scaffold]

Not at all

[versed galleon]

whats garbage is being named sean 💀💀💀

[glacial brook]

I don't mind it

[regal vale]

Oof someone’s upset

[glacial brook]

Some people can't handle the truth, nobody wants to be turned into a vegetable and be unable to fight back

[regal vale]

[trail storm]

How to make the game unplayable speed run addition

Pretty much you're fucked if you take any kind of severe damage

[versed galleon]

That's kinda the point

[trail storm]

Yea not for this game unfortunately tho. Won't work

[versed galleon]

Shame

I want a game with this realistic injury system

anywho

maybe this would work if it got dialed down

[trail storm]

Couldn't be plausible unless the system is dialed down alot and makes it fair..

This would work more for a hardcore jjk game

[versed galleon]

im not sure about jjk i feel it works with demon slayer more

because of the swords thing

[remote plinth]

mistersoup You’ve Reached Level 2

[versed galleon]

a hardcore demon slayer game

[glacial brook]

in jjk, humans can regenerate lost limbs, in demon slayer, they cannot, only demons can

demon slayer also is just a horrible baseline to follow for anything due to it's absurd inconsistencies and poor writing

[versed galleon]

Most can't, rct is a very rare trait

[glacial brook]

rct is a learnable trait with solid methods of training and obtainment from what I recall

the rare trait is being able to use it on other people

[honest gale]

sounds annoying

[final scaffold]

A discussion that goes nowhere

[versed galleon]

it's really difficult to learn, it took years for the likes of gojo to learn it and only a select few who are either special grade sorcerers or healers like shoko know RCT

[raven vector]

COOL

[magic sage]

So you’re saying that the devs should remake the entire super well done combat system, nerf every individual move and literally make a fencing simulator while calling it a demon slayer game, all so you can turn people into vegetables that can’t fight back

[versed galleon]

I never said anything about reworking combat..?

Its just realistic debuffs for getting hit with a sword

It's not that deep

[magic sage]

Mb miscommunication issue

My point is for the bleeding system to really work you would have to rework the combat, as with the current combat system with combos and whatnot, whoever gets a hit first would basically be able to decimate your opponent making for extremely short fights

Basically one combo would make people be a bleeding out vegetable with no limbs

Instead of just loosing some health

[versed galleon]

mhm

This was a month ago so

It's just weird how theres a health bar

[magic sage]

And also it would be annoying to incorporate chance into the game (someone could cut your sword arm off and massively debuff your damage with a lucky m1 combo)

[versed galleon]

Hang on let me gather my thoughts

Okay my ick is

On 1 hp you're fine but on 0 hp you're dead

Right? It's not very immersive

What i was trying to get at here was better damaging

[glacial brook]

People would just do the same shit as demon hunter with builds/playstyles specifically to remove limbs and make somebody into a vegetable

[versed galleon]

Poorly executedbut

[magic sage]

Yeah, I mean I’m all for a little bleeding and minor debuffs, it just doesn’t make sense to suddenly loose 50% of your movement speed after your opponent gets a good move off

[glacial brook]

Ion feel like becoming a nugget due to rng

[magic sage]

Exactly my point

[versed galleon]

What i'm thinking is

The lower you are, the more you get debuffed

Losing a limb at <10% hp or something for example

Yk? You're probably gonna lose if you get to that point but you still have a chance

[magic sage]

So basically more dramatic and deadly battles?

[versed galleon]

YEAH

thank you for that

we ignore the embed fail

[magic sage]

It would be realistic and honestly really fun if done well but I imagine it would also be extremely difficult to balance it out with gameplay

[versed galleon]

Thats why i think different weapons / different swords do different debuffs when X enemy is low

[magic sage]

So in theory banger idea but not the best thing in practice imo

[magic sage]

Different swords?

[versed galleon]

Like gyutaro's sickle thingies doing poison when you hit <10% until you hit 1 damage tick

same w shinobu's

[magic sage]

Ah I gotcha

[versed galleon]

And regular swords

Doing... regular sword stuff..

[remote plinth]

mistersoup You’ve Reached Level 3

[versed galleon]

BUT YOU GET THE JIST

I don't want a combat where i'm leaping around at 1 hp happy go lucky it just feels wrong

I want to be stumbling around on the verge of death yk

It's just so much bettert

[magic sage]

I feel like a good balance for this would be mildly nerfing some breathing styles like shinobu’s to make the poison gimmick a big gameplay style

[versed galleon]

Mm

[magic sage]

Also a cool idea would be stumbling around visuals but very minority if not at all changing gameplay

In general though it’s hard to incorporate being on the verge of death in video games

[versed galleon]

Can i send a youtube link in dms

To give you a good idea of what im on about

[magic sage]

Sure

[raven vector]

demon players would be so op if this existed

[remote plinth]

imoggerkaese You’ve Reached Level 1

[zealous spear]

I agree to this to "some" extent tho bleeding should be there the limbs ripping should be for finishers only! [If anyone doesnt know what finishers are basically when you land 1 final attack to kill someone thats a certain amount of low hp] This just messes up balancing and personally i dont think anyone would find it fun

[versed galleon]

Sorta redid it here

[versed galleon]

This guy summed it up pretty well

[zealous spear]

Again I THINK that messes with balancing because then making combacks is REALLY hard

[zealous spear]

👍 To some extent

[versed galleon]

Then here's an idea

[zealous spear]

Alright

[versed galleon]

On the brink of death you can lock in of sorts, a bit like a mode

Look at Tanjiro vs Rui

[zealous spear]

Ah, this ones smarter of you to say but

Once again, that could mess with balancing [Scout already said this btw]

Plus adding a boost or [a mode] as you call it still messes with the balance of pvp and gives the next person an advantage rather then making it THIS complicated just dont de-buff ppl when they are low

👍 I hope you agree [this is still my opinion]

[versed galleon]

I get that, but I mean more of a "last stand" kinda thing, an adrenalin rush and immediately crashing afterwards kinda thing. This could also be clan specific or something, or different modes for different breathings / bdas.

Not like immediately getting permanently stronger when you're low, but more of a burst of energy for a final chance

I feel it'd make stuff more cinematic

[charred bison]

Why be good enough to actually lock in let the game do it for you

Amirite

[glacial brook]

Leave being cinematic for single player story games

We want a balanced game

[versed galleon]

there are no single player story demon slayer games

[charred bison]

But didnt you know visuals>good and balanced game

[glacial brook]

Never said there were

You talked about adding elements for the cinematic element

[versed galleon]

well yeah

[glacial brook]

If you want something cinematic, play a good game, not a demon shit game

[versed galleon]

cinematic fights are good fights dude

[glacial brook]

No

[versed galleon]

Yes

[charred bison]

Go watch anime atp

[glacial brook]

Balanced fights are good fights

[versed galleon]

why not have both

[glacial brook]

Because in a pvp game, you don't get both

Powerups are dogshit for balancing

[versed galleon]

why not? I don't see a reason not to have both

[versed galleon]

You're looking too much into the balancing and sweaty nerd pvp side of it

[glacial brook]

And we don't have to add everything just because it exists in Demon Shitter, otherwise we'd have some of the most inconsistent balancing/power systems i history

[versed galleon]

It's cool

[glacial brook]

The intent of the game is to be properly balanced

[charred bison]

Ah yes

Playing a game comp is nerdy

[glacial brook]

That is one of the largest objectives, to have well made and balanced pvp

[versed galleon]

literally yes...

[charred bison]

Imagine playing a pvp game in a comp setting

[glacial brook]

Nothing wrong with being a nerd

[charred bison]

Not a bit

[glacial brook]

But they seem to think pvping on a game meant for pvping is a bad thing

[versed galleon]

...

[charred bison]

I play competitive smash im about as deep in the nerd allegations as possible

[glacial brook]

They'd rather have bad balance in exchange for "cinematic" elements

Which would realistically just be annoying

[versed galleon]

you act like no matter what you can't have both

but you easily can

[glacial brook]

You act like you do not have a brain, though the more you speak, the more convinced I am that it is not an act

[versed galleon]

Quit being a prick..?

And you didn't even acknowledge what i said

[glacial brook]

Quit speaking without thinking of what is being discussed

[charred bison]

[glacial brook]

I've explained how mode/temp boost combat is horrible for balancing a ton of times

It's all extremely simple and common sense

[versed galleon]

You didn't say how

[charred bison]

Do you know where you are rn

Are you like

[versed galleon]

not really i don't see how

[charred bison]

Unable to comprehend basic concepts

[versed galleon]

cause i'm not big into competitive pvp

[glacial brook]

This goes as further support for my prior statement

[glacial brook]

Just because it isn't comp pvp doesn't mean it should not be well balanced

Being well balanced is first and foremost in a pvp game

[versed galleon]

lmao

[charred bison]

Insults someone>proves their point>proves their point again

True combo btw

[glacial brook]

Only time I insult is when the insult is a fact

[versed galleon]

Support on a roblox game's discord server

[charred bison]

Him calling you a prick is what i was talking abt lmao

[glacial brook]

Anyways, I'm gonna go back to making my lunch

[versed galleon]

get a real job

[glacial brook]

I'm here to help out my homies in my free time, rather than them having to deal with some other idiots in my place

[versed galleon]

"help out" being a prick?

anyways im done here you lot are just being assholes now not even talking about my suggestion

[glacial brook]

I work at an indoor sports complex doing a variety of things there, and in my free time I play soccer, I'm training to play hockey, I read books, etc

[charred bison]

Im willing to bet youre unemployed

[glacial brook]

Don't resort to stereotyping

[charred bison]

Which even if youre not

[versed galleon]

I'm <17

[glacial brook]

I forgot people can't handle the honest truth 9 times out of 10

[versed galleon]

and employed

[charred bison]

Assuming things like that over the internet is insane like yk what i just did

Absolute baseless allegations

[glacial brook]

A large amount of cities have legal opportunities for work starting at 13 or 14

So being under 17 and employed isn't much of an argument