Families

[carmine solstice]

This has probably been a discussion before, but I heard that the devs only want to use families as a way to support the game and dont want the game to be p2w, but I also heard they want the game to be kinda like deepwoken and they want it balanced. So heres my idea for families. They dont give super huge buffs, only small buffs such as vibrations of noises (agatsuma) or see through walls (hashibira) or even just smelling where people are which would honestly just be kamado.

If there are trainings like deepwoken to level up certain stats then certain families could have certain boosts to training speed like Himejima gives you a few extra points for strength or just boosts the training speed for it. And for shinazugawa you get idk an agility boost. I just feel like families shouldnt be entirely useless. Maybe for storyline your family name comes with different dialogue. Im just saying it'd be nice for families to do something, not a HUGE boost, but not just entirely cosmetic since in the anime being in the kamado family is literally a buff since hinokami kagura is passed down.

[finite sparrow]

clans are cosmetic

[uneven cargo]

Yeah idk where you heard that clans are like deepwoken race buffs from

[carmine solstice]

I never mentioned that I heard the clans are going to be like race buffs in deepwoken

I did mention that they said if they did do something like that it would have to like the deepwoken race buffs

[finite sparrow]

Idk where you heard they wanted them to be like deepwoken at all

They been said multiple times that clans were just cosmetic only

[junior rain]

Who tf told you the plan is to be like deepwoken

Clans will be purely cosmetic, no buffs at all

[uneven cargo]

Exactly 😭

[soft lynx]

But the smelling thing would be cool

Just like little abilities to clans no buffs

[junior rain]

Those would be considered buffs as each clan would have their own things that add to gameplay

[soft lynx]

It wouldn't be a combat buff so it doesn't hurt anyone

Also it isn't a buff

[junior rain]

They give advantages, no matter how minor, which is a buff, which ruins the point of clans being cosmetics

[soft lynx]

No buffs are either giving you a pvp advantage or increasing overall stats

[junior rain]

[soft lynx]

I'm not saying all the skills he said it's just something like inoske having good sense of smell

[junior rain]

Which would, again, make a difference compared to others, no matter how minor, and each difference would be obtained via rolling

Which gives buffs, despite how small of a buff it is

Which is once more, able to be viewed as p2e

P2w*

It's not being added

[soft lynx]

How is this going to affect gameplay

And how will it be considered p2w

You can just smell things

[soft lynx]

It's also not giving you any advantage Wich stops it from being a buff

And if you pay money just to have a little skill I don't know what to say about you

[junior rain]

Sense of smells implies ability to find npc demons easier which would mean faster exp

Buffs don't have to be purely stat based lol

Like I said already, this isn't being added

[soft lynx]

I was just giving an example also what if you could only sniff out players

[soft lynx]

This is also a suggestion you really can't just deny it your not even the owner

[junior rain]

[soft lynx]

Are you the owner?

[junior rain]

I'm a tester and have discussed things of these sorts with the devs and owners

They aren't giving any benefits to clans

It will purely be cosmetics

That is set in stone

[soft lynx]

I thought there aren't Testers

[fresh gulch]

@soft lynx Tester is unobtainable. #❓│faq

[junior rain]

Says who lol

[uneven cargo]

normal people cant get tester

[fresh gulch]

@uneven cargo Tester is unobtainable. #❓│faq

[junior rain]

I'm not a normal member

[uneven cargo]

its only for devs and shit

[soft lynx]

It's not even beneficial just a skill for each clan

[uneven cargo]

doesnt that make it p2w

[junior rain]

Which makes them no longer purely cosmetic

And those skills would still impact one thing or another

[soft lynx]

No it's not really something you would want to spend money on

[soft lynx]

Like making finding people easier

[junior rain]

Being able to locate enemies easier would definitely be something to spend money on

[soft lynx]

I said you would only be able to find slayers

[junior rain]

Still people to kill

Clearly there will be pvp progression based on #📊│game-related-votes so that'd give advantages

[soft lynx]

Still an example also slayers give exp

[junior rain]

Still not being added, still a form of p2w

[soft lynx]

How just having good sniffing abilities

[junior rain]

I already explained it bud

[soft lynx]

Also it's just an example

Said this before

[soft lynx]

Alright I'm not using Beast what about insect having a different kill effect

[junior rain]

Why would that be based on clan instead of breathing?

Where is the logic behind that?

If you're going to make these things happen, tie them to a breathing or make them globally obtainable

Rather than making people have to pay for rolls to get what they want

[soft lynx]

Okay if they are like that would it be better

[junior rain]

No, they'd still be dumb additions

[soft lynx]

Also why must you pay for roles

[soft lynx]

How

[uneven cargo]

Wait is your new idea to lock speacial move finishers to clans?

[soft lynx]

No each breathing just gets a little unique skill no buffs

[uneven cargo]

Ok so that’s pay to win…

Cause you are locking skills to clans

[soft lynx]

I'm not locking anything to clans I clearly stated breathing

[uneven cargo]

now im confused

[soft lynx]

See

[uneven cargo]

but how do you get the unique skill