About moon/sun breathing obtaning

[sly cape]

I suggest you guys make sun/moon obtainable by giving only half of the moveset or make it v1 and v2 ( getting v2 by factions )
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[deep mountain]

then they would still face the problem of everyone only using sun/moon breathing

[fair egret]

No

[sly cape]

Why though

[deep mountain]

cause everyone will still go sun/moon breathing

[ruby agate]

Forgive me, dumb question incoming. If sun breathing and moon breathing, especially canonically, are the most powerful, besides a lack of variety, what would be the issue with the goal of the game being sun/moon breathing?

Although Demon slayer midnight sun has that issue, it has a lot of really cool hybrid classes but you immediately want to go sun/moon once you get high up cause they're the most powerful. I figure they'd avoid this for that reason?

I remember genuinely being really dissapointed cause Hinokami is so high quality and one of my favorite breathings is locked behind random chance, but I can understand the reasoning. Hoping they may consider more than just one giveaway though.

[hexed pagoda]

💀 its been rejected so many times it aint even funny at this point

[mild terrace]

because hinokami isn’t just about progression, pvp is also a big part of it. if almost everyone uses the same breathing, pvp becomes stale. people who are too afraid to experiment with new breathings will not be able to perform well by forcing themselves to use sun breathing.

for example, imagine if Phantom Forces only had one overpowered gun, while the others are objectively worse. you’d see almost every player using that gun. there’d be a lack of variety, and the game likewise becomes stale

even if sun breathing isn’t actually stronger than other breathings, the very idea of it being special (due to the anime) already causes the issue of it becoming too popular

[ruby agate]

That makes sense yeah, demon Slayer midnight sun has that issue as mentioned before 😭

Only counter I'd make is that I mentioned the idea in the past of pve servers and pvp servers, if there was purely a pve section then that wouldn't really be an issue cause it's not really gonna harm anyone if people fight bosses and work up to the same breathing to go use it, etc.

For pvp though I entirely understand that yeah.

[mild terrace]

hinokami's pvp is integrated into the pve, separating the two might take quite a bit of effort from the devs

[ruby agate]

Yeah but I think effort shouldn't be something dissuaded in a game like this. Would also help it stand out and probably keep communities a little safer from toxicity. Every single demon slayer game does the same thing and relies on the same "Ope you wanna fight a boss? Fight it with 5 other people that can hit you and kill you as well as the boss." Or the same people spawn camping and killing off low levels while literally being finished with the story, etc.

I'd definitely like to see a spot where you can enjoy the pve and not have to worry about those issues for once. May just be me though.

[mild terrace]

yea i get what u mean

[deep mountain]

Ok I’m guessing you got the info you wanted from the other guy but from what I saw from demonfall is that if sun and moon breathing are obtainable to the public then the majority of the player base would so sun or moon and not another breathing like water for example

[fair egret]

The game isn't lore accurate to demon slayer, the devs wabt a game with balanced pvp and build variety, adding sun/moon results in majority of players trying to get those two things, on top of that, the devs just don't want them public

[celest escarp]

which breathing is locked behind chance?

[austere elbow]

So it won't become a developer/admin spec right

[fair egret]

we don't really do dev/admin specs

there are lore spot specs, but not dev/admin specs

[fair egret]

breathings will be obtained by style trainers

[austere elbow]

Okay that's good

[austere elbow]

But I heard Sun and moon will be obtainable

[fair egret]

those will be considered lore spot specs

they are not publicly obtainable

they'll be obtained via contribution to the community

[austere elbow]

What kind of contribution?

[fair egret]

[austere elbow]

Well just hope it's something I can do

[celest escarp]

I meant in midnight sun to musicman

[fair egret]

oh, he's the only person I've ever heard talk about that game

seems like a mediocre game tbh

[celest escarp]

rn some guy named "oden uzui" just grinds freshies with some auto parry (it has liek 12 players)

[fair egret]

explains a lot

from what I've heard about it, the gameplay and all is crumby

[celest escarp]

So I got some rank in the game, and the guy is just attacking me in spawn, repeatedly, resetting upon each grip

He seems exponentially bored

But never wanting to change games

[fair egret]

[celest escarp]

Prob cus of the fact its the only game hes maxed in

hes got an entire hater squad ready to jump him lmao

[ruby agate]

Sun mainly, from what I've seen
There's a giveaway where you need to be lucky and you'll get a small chance to get it.

[ruby agate]

I think you replied to the wrong part of what I was saying but yeah, fair.

[ruby agate]

Yeah fair, makes sense : >

[ruby agate]

It's basically the closest to Hinokami that isn't Hinokami, just isn't doing so great rn.

[celest escarp]

maybe he should try it

[ruby agate]

I'd definitely recommend it but we'll see. I think it'd provide the team and etc some very nice insight into what to do and what not to do.

[celest escarp]

True

You can learn right and wrong froma bad game