#make sun and moon obtainable but harder and making it balanced.I think this is a really good idea

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ornate adder
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what yall think??

round spoke
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No bruh

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Doesn’t matter how hard it is to obtain something when everyone will eventually get it

tender frost
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there shudldent be any "end game breathings" and we shuld have variaty on what we want to choose sun and moon will basically block it out

round spoke
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Exactly that’s why I don’t like demon fall cause everyone uses sun or moon breathing

tender frost
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very good point

ornate adder
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not at all i had flame breathing even if there was sun or moon

tender frost
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dude if u make sun and moon balaanced then whats the point if ur working for alll of that whats the point-

tender frost
round spoke
ornate adder
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bro if they make it balanced it will be like every breathing

tender frost
# ornate adder what?

like if u wanna make sun and moon balanced and still hard to get thiers no point to getting it

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ornate adder
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which one you choose

tender frost
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deffinetly

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make it as hard as every outher breathing and as balanced as every breathingg

ornate adder
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yes

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thats what i was saying

round spoke
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Bro no cause then everyone will still go sun or moon

ornate adder
round spoke
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As the “endgame” breathing

long gorge
dim locust
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LevelUp kyopoodas You’ve Reached Level 19

tender frost
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ornate adder
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if its balanced people can choose any breathing they want

long gorge
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long gorge
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13 and 16 moves 😭

ornate adder
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bro yall dont understand what im sayin

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im saying to make it balanced dawg not op

tender frost
tender frost
round spoke
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Bro I understand what you are saying but most of the player base will still go sun cause of the mc

ornate adder
round spoke
ornate adder
round spoke
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It wouldn’t be cool when everyone uses that shit

ornate adder
tender frost
dim locust
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LevelUp greenshabbir You’ve Reached Level 3

tender frost
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💀 were arguging like thier gonna add it

round spoke
ornate adder
ornate adder
round spoke
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They already said no in faq

tender frost
ornate adder
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ye but im saying on how they could make it balanced but ig theres some counters to thaat

long gorge
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they banned around 12k cus of wave ban

ornate adder
dim locust
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simply 🤫

tender frost
long gorge
ornate adder
long gorge
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then dont compare that dead game to hino

round spoke
ornate adder
long gorge
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💀

ornate adder
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not ther game

dim locust
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Then accept Hinokami is making them Unobtainable for the public same reason hybrids won’t exist

ornate adder
round spoke
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He is telling you to accept the fact that it wont be added

long gorge
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plus demonfall became easy in loots

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ppl duping and shi

tender frost
round spoke
dim locust
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As someone who played as a Moon breathing hybrid

ornate adder
long gorge
dim locust
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Hinokami making Sun Breathing and Moon Breathing Unique is only a good thing

round spoke
long gorge
dim locust
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This is one of probably close to 100 now

ornate adder
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ab that

dim locust
ornate adder
dim locust
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They’re not gonna change their minds

tender frost
long gorge
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demon falling from players

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ornate adder
dim locust
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That everyone has heard so many times already

dim locust
ornate adder
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i was talking ab how they could make it balanced

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thats all

long gorge
dim locust
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Everyone would still pick Sun and Moon

dim locust
tender frost
dim locust
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according to higo

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It’ll be slightly stronger

ornate adder
dim locust
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for the ones that do obtain sun, it won't be OP

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It’s confirmed Sun and Moon will be slightly stronger than other breathing styles but it’s not like “I have Sun or Moon I win easy”

ornate adder
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if its unob to get in the same fashion lkike other breathings then it should be stronger

dim locust
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And it is stronger

ornate adder
dim locust
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just not OP

ornate adder
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ight

tender frost
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i just hope they dont mess up water breathing

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cuz every game makes water breathing pathetic

dim locust
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look at sneaks

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It’s like for power level scaling 9000 for the others 10000 for those two

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It’s a bit stronger but not much

ornate adder
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ngl i want serpent breath

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if they add it

dim locust
ornate adder
tender frost
long gorge
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11 skills 🙂

tender frost
long gorge
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the first form is obviously gonna be like demonfall

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water surface slash

tender frost
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is it atleast not gonna be so bad that people just dont use it

dim locust
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No they want people to use every breathing style

tender frost
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how many skills is a breathing ussaly supposed to have? 💀 ive never watched the anime

dim locust
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each breath will be good, just diff playstyles

tender frost
long gorge
tender frost
long gorge
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insect has the lowest of the low

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😭 im so sad

dim locust
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tmk

long gorge
dim locust
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in-game

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Flame is 9, Thunder, 7? 9? 10?

tender frost
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😮 so wait every breathing has 5 moves?

dim locust
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you can equip 5 moves

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pretty sure there's a selection system

tender frost
dim locust
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But demon fall was kinda mid

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I think we’re gonna be allowed to use all the forms

tender frost
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ok so thiers more then 5 moves but u can only use 5 at once is what ur saying-

long gorge
dim locust
long gorge
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but dont know if they adding thunder flaming god

tender frost
long gorge
dim locust
dim locust
tender frost
long gorge
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and i am an experienced and stacked player

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in df 😭

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the mods are lazy as hell and very non-forgiving at all

dim locust
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We should move back to general tho

long gorge
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they arent good at patching but good at banning 12k in 3weeks

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in 2 days was 9k

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btw

dim locust
long gorge
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now it increased too much i lsot count

ornate adder
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bro

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this a good suggestion

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but ight

round spoke
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It’s not 😭

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No one wants to see a bunch of people run around with only sun and moon breathing

haughty wigeon
ornate adder
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I did and i said to nerf them and make it like demonfall where everyone has a variety to choose from +sun and moon

ornate adder
round spoke
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It doesn’t matter how hard it is

ornate adder
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why would they if theyre nerfed and balanced

round spoke
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Cause it’s sun breathing

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Who tf wouldn’t want to use it

ornate adder
round spoke
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It’s not an excuse

ornate adder
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It is bro like

round spoke
ornate adder
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If theyre nerfed and balanced whats the point in getting it

round spoke
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It doesn’t matter no one wants to see people running around with sun and moon

round spoke
ornate adder
round spoke
ornate adder
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everyone has their own style

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so it is a good idea but i guess u can make an argument on it but still my argument is better

round spoke
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There still not adding it

round spoke
ornate adder
ornate adder
round spoke
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Part of the reason they aren’t adding it is cause they want sun and moon to be special

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It wouldn’t be special if it was available to the public

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Again it doesn’t matter if it’s nerfed or not

ornate adder
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ornate adder
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They can make it balanced and nerf it bro

ornate adder
round spoke
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They just aren’t gonna add it idk how you don’t realize that

round spoke
ornate adder
round spoke
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If you want to use sun breathing go play demonfall or smth

ornate adder
round spoke
ornate adder
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and thats why im here

ornate adder
round spoke
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Thats a lame ass excuse 💀

ornate adder
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If they dont want to then its their problem

round spoke
ornate adder
round spoke
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They literally said sun and moon won’t be public

ornate adder
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If they like it they can change anything for it

round spoke
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There not gonna change it

ornate adder
round spoke
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They already have it planned in how it’s accessible

ornate adder
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why are u not accepting it

round spoke
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Cause there not gonna change it

ornate adder
round spoke
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Scout and Higoshi already said why

ornate adder
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thats why these exist

keen spade
# ornate adder As i said if they like my suggestion then they can change it

Right but what dull is saying is that all of the dev team are very stern about keeping things the way they are planned to be. For a suggestion that will make gameplay (pvp specifically) suck, they won’t just change it for one person. Plus this has been suggested countless times and nobody has had any luck 🤷‍♂️

ornate adder
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No one said to nerf sun and moon and make it balanced

keen spade
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You’re still suggesting to add both breathing styles for public use. It doesn’t matter if you nerf them to the ground because then people will always still go for them over the other styles. Believe me, it might seem cool but that would make pvp stale asf

round spoke
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Thats what I’ve been saying 😭😭😭

vague scaffold
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Scout isn't here

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Maybe Scout is tired

round spoke
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Scout would have a field day rn

keen spade
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I think scout is so tired of seeing suggestions about moon/sun he’s given up

prisma knoll
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people love acting like they are yorrichi or crap like that

prisma knoll
prisma knoll
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making it rare doesn't do anything to stop people from getting it with all the youtube and shittok tutorials that will be made, making it rng based means nothing if the game is intended to last years and have a good chunk of players

vague scaffold
prisma knoll
round spoke
prisma knoll
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and sold over $3000 in food and beers, mostly beers

round spoke
vague scaffold
vague scaffold
main maple
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you’re essentially waffling to a solid wall

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and blue lock tag is devious

gloomy bramble
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adding anything popular is gonna have people who are fans of it, represent it ingame

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sure, you can make it really hard to obtain, thatd already filter out the people who already aren't willing/aren't able to complete whatever task is needed to do

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but when you make the moveset itself something that filters out players, is when something becomes special

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sun should be hard to use, sure you went through the hell of obtaining it, but learning how to use it is a whole different story

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people who can't adjust to using sun, simply won't

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they'll switch to something else they like and are more comfortable with

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people who actually learn with the moveset and are effective with it, that's more special in my opinion

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ik it's not being made obtainable ingame, but I'm just making a case for if it was, and how to go about it
cus honestly pretty much every other take in this thread has been pretty shallow

prisma knoll
gloomy bramble
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it wouldnt

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if something is hard to use then learn how to use it

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it's just called having a higher skill ceiling

gloomy bramble
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the moveset itself filters people from using it

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a great example is Akuma
in most games he's crazy good

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but he's harder to use by how he works

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Akuma is very popular as well

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but due to the fact that nit everyone can play him well, they simply choose not to

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same case would be with sun given my example

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gatekeeping it just to be a spec or whatever is fine, but the assertion that everyone will use it just because it's sun isn't necessarily true

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especially if you handle the moveset right

main maple
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honestly the most thought-through argument i’ve seen

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kudos to you

gloomy bramble
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ty
#1 sun propaganda

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jokes aside I think it's more interesting that way
if something is hard to obtain and use then people who really can't adapt to using it well, just won't use it

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the issue with games like demonfall is that you can just grind for it and it's BRAINDEAD TO USE

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so ofc everyone is gonna hop on if they have the time

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plus if u want a lore reason
sun is rare because most slayers don't know about it and they have to adjust to the style for years most likely

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tanjiro had to learn it through dance since he was young for tradition

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that's the only reason he knew it in the first place

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but yea yap session over

round spoke
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Yeah you have a point

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I’m not gonna do a counter argument tho lmao

keen spade
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I agree with your statement tbh, having sun be difficult to obtain and difficult to use would filter out players from using it. However, I think it’s more the assumption that everyone who obtains sun would take the time to perfect it because they wanna feel “cool” or the main character so combat against players could eventually feel boring. Plus with moon it’s a bit more spammable since we saw koku just ABUSING his moves 😭

prisma knoll
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We'd still see a majority of players using it just to use it, which is the reason we don't want it public

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Plus, like I said earlier, we want stuff to be equally viable, so if we make sun better when used right than anything else when used right, it'd still be more viable

gloomy bramble
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I mean that's natural with something that's hard to use

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it's not overwhelmingly better but when you master something hard to use, you are rewarded well for it

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that's in inevitability in any fighting game with any moveset

prisma knoll
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I know

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I'm not inexperienced with fighting games

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We don't want things to be better or wise at different skill levels

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We want everything to be equally viable at any time

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And we also still want sun/moon to be rare

gloomy bramble
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well if that's what yall are going for that's fine

prisma knoll
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Rather than seen around every single corner

keen spade
prisma knoll
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Not allowed to speak on content of the game that Higo hasn't revealed

keen spade
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Damn so I guess that person just lied then

dim locust
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deep flame
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no

dim locust
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ornate adder
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ig u got a point

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keen spade
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round spoke
muted sentinel
dim locust
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LevelUp jj_taco You’ve Reached Level 1

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dim locust
# muted sentinel YAY

Oh, yay indeed! You know, it’s like when a dog gets a new toy—pure joy, right? So, what’s on your mind today? Anything you want to chat about? I'm all ears, like a good pup waiting for a treat! 🐶

muted sentinel
dim locust
# muted sentinel WHATTT

Whoa, okay! That’s quite the reaction, you know? It’s like when a dog sees a squirrel and just can’t contain their excitement! So, what’s got you all riled up? Let’s dig into it, like a dog digging for buried treasure in the backyard! 🐾

keen spade
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alright Shounen you gotta calm down now

round spoke
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prisma knoll
wide cape
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damm

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ah well its not that big of a deal, I would be a slayer anyways

wide cape
dim locust
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LevelUp callme_kamado360_45433 You’ve Reached Level 2

prisma knoll
muted sentinel
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because kokushibo created moon breathing before he turned into a demon

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either ima have water breathing, or moon breathing as those are my favorite styles

round spoke
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round spoke
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They don’t want most of the player base ruining around with sun and moon

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It doesn’t give variety and makes other breathings feel useless

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You could argue to balance it out but people would still use it just cause it’s sun or moon

wide cape
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So your basically saying that even if its balanced, if the players want it, they shouldn't have it? Nice marketing technique

round spoke
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They just don’t want everyone using sun :/

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It kind of ruins the game if everyone you fight uses sun and moon breathing

muted sentinel
dim locust
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LevelUp jj_taco You’ve Reached Level 2

wide cape
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i mean sure but it would just be inacurate

round spoke
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I’m pretty sure most of the forms where only usable cause of his bda

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I’m not 100% sure tho

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All we know is that his bda affected his breathing

muted sentinel
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yes that’s true but since we have nothing to go off of, just make it useable as a human

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i’m not really gonna use moon anyways, as ima be a water main (if i can use all 11 forms)

round spoke
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I doubt they will make all forms

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It’s pretty time consuming

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I was gonna main water either way

muted sentinel
# round spoke I doubt they will make all forms

this is the most anticipated roblox game ever (most likely) it should have most if not all of the forms and yeah i was gonna main cause of constant flux, i just hope dead calm and flowing dance look good too

round spoke
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I get what you are saying

muted sentinel
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as long as dead calm and dance of the swift current look good and are actually useable unlike cough demonfall cough we gucci

round spoke
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So far we know of surface slash water wheel and constant flux

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To be fair we don’t know how many moves their will be in game

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I’m assuming 5 because of the sub classes

muted sentinel
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and i hope the combat system is actually better than wl2 and df

round spoke
muted sentinel
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i don’t think drop ripple thrust will be in the game, not sure how it would work

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they could make it a counter move like in demonfall, that would be interesting

round spoke
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I’m hoping for waterfall basin

muted sentinel
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i want 1-5 and 8-11

round spoke
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Whirlpool is indeed mid

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I’ve never liked it

muted sentinel
round spoke
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The thing is striking tide is hella similar to surface slash

round spoke
muted sentinel
round spoke
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Best striking tide in a game I’ve seen is prob rpg 2

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Cause it practically has the twists and turns

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Closest to the anime

muted sentinel
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it’s like 2-3 strikes on the body

muted sentinel
prisma knoll
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The game isn't specifically a demon slayer game, it's inspired by ds, not everything from the story has to be in our game

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If we did that, it'd be an awful game due to how inconsistent the power levels/systems are in the story, as well as how horrendously written ds is as a story

gloomy bramble
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the point is that it feels nice for it to be super special and exclusive

muted sentinel
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okay so no moon breathing

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that meansssss I CAN BE WATER HASHIRA WOOHOOOO

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(please don’t lock hashira behind a ranked game mode)

prisma knoll
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hashira is likely going to be pvp based in the faction servers, just like rpg2

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there will be one per breathing style

round spoke
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hopefully tsukugos to

main maple
round spoke
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Ok so have the few people who have it just not play on that day 💀

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Wdym

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What’s the point on making it shit when barley anyone is gonna have it

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Cause it’s not for the public

karmic dirgeBOT
dim locust
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LevelUp 12anonymous.21 You’ve Reached Level 1

round spoke
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So what’s your point 😐

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They’ve already stated why their not gonna do that 💀

prisma knoll
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Devs don't get sun?

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Sun and moon will not be public, they'll be earned via community based content

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Everything publicly obtainable will be balanced and equal to one another

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It is what it sounds like

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It's content based around the community

round spoke
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like tournaments for example or pvp stuff

prisma knoll
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All Higo has said is community based content

round spoke
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np

prisma knoll
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He hasn't specified pvp

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We already had an rng game based event for it

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Ended like 11 days ago

keen spade
static coral
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Bunch of people fight eachother, winner ranks up

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till theres a hashira, then hashiras get fought

prisma knoll
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Since there is only one hashira per breath, there tend to be cross region fights

keen spade
prisma knoll
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Most likely

gaunt wren
prisma knoll
gaunt wren
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oh okay

quaint saffron
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glad I missed this specimen's suggestion when it was first made

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added a blue lock tag to ask for sun and moon to be public

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peak SS moment

short igloo
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No