Idk, Families (SOME) having no buffs and apparently purely cosmetic is pretty stupid (IMO)

[distant cairn]

• The Rengoku's
  They are a Family of KNOWN Flame breathers, i think that means something, there's a whole book to a guide of Flame Breath.
• The Uzui's
  They are a Family of Shinobi, yes i know it'd be a Subclass (You'll be able to become one later on BUT, if you were one, MAYBE it should be easier to get, as you'd be trained as a child in the art of a Shinobi)
• The Tokitou's
  They are a decedent of the Tsugikuni's, and a decedent of Kokushibou no less, who is gifted in his own way.

(Tried to keep it as confirmed buffs/perks, as i'm out of ideas rn)
BUT this is not to disrespect any of the devs, there work is admirable to me, but for this idea to deviate from Project Slayers/DemonFall, make families unspinnable.

[elfin crypt]

Truly an event discord suggestion

[distant cairn]

And the buffs don't even have to be crazy like that

• The Rengoku's
  They have access to the Way of Flame, which they'll open the book and maybe go into a mini game to complete the book and learn Flame breath?
• The Uzui's
  They should be able to get it later on, but easier
• The Tokitou's
  Idk a 1% XP increase 😭 , or make it easier to get Mist

[distant cairn]

Mb, i do NOT know how to work this 😭

[elfin crypt]

Sun will not be public

#❓│faq

[distant cairn]

I see, then that's out the Window i fear, the suggestion i made was mid anyway might take it down lowk

[elder moss]

Sun isn’t public bro

[elder moss]

😭

[distant cairn]

I just learned until recently, mb 😔 , maybe i should read the rules

[elder moss]

Your good lol

[dusky mist]

im ngl I fully agree with this, some of the families should have buffs, such as rengoku, uzui, and tokito's to their breathings. It would also be cool if families like tomioka and agatsuma got buffs to water and thunder breathing

[elder moss]

It would be pay to win ngl

[dusky mist]

I highly doubt the devs would make this game p2w, I cant think of any current DS game that is p2w

Cuz if im being honest its kinda hard to make a DS p2w and make sense

[elder moss]

I mean demon hunter kind of is with the bdas and passives

[dusky mist]

never heard of it. People even play it?

[elder moss]

It’s a cc demon slayer game

It’s easy to get waved

And yeah it has a lot of players for a game that’s cc

[dusky mist]

People dont have much hype for it then

[elder moss]

It’s a cc game wdym

[dusky mist]

idk im dumb

[elder moss]

??? 💀

[dusky mist]

but regardless, making a game p2w kills it

[elder moss]

Also project slayers clans are kinda pay to win

[dusky mist]

if it isnt a simulator ofc

[dusky mist]

mf what

[elder moss]

???

[dusky mist]

How are the CLANS P2W

[elder moss]

The buffs they give and they were going to have it were you can only get sun breathing with kamado clan

[dusky mist]

The devs have provided spins to the point almost everyone has gotten kamado

You dont even need to buy the spins or else it owuld be wasted

and even then you get to use daily spins for more spins on top of being able to buy it with ryo

[elder moss]

still makes the game p2w it gives people with the higher rareity clan an advantage

[dusky mist]

that doesnt make it p2w, if anything its closer to RNG

[elder moss]

yeah no shit rolling for a clan is rng 😭

[dusky mist]

p2w is like buying something that would make me op in game or give me a super high advantage over everyone else, for example buying a sword that gives me 1mil power per click in a simulator game

[toxic girder]

mr.tusk0 You’ve Reached Level 2

[elder moss]

I know what pay to win is smh project slayers may not be the best example

[dusky mist]

it definitely wasn't

overwatch is a perfect example

well no

[elder moss]

bro what 💀

[dusky mist]

thats mostly skins

[elder moss]

yeah thats not pay to win

[loud totem]

We just don't like pay to win. I think the only way families will have perks other than cosmetics are utility buffs that arent combat related like Deepwoken.

[loud totem]

It's not gonna work since we're adding stories....

Demonfall and Project Slayers have ruined you guys

DSRPG2 never had any clan related stuff haha

thats something devs make so you gamble more

we make it cosmetic so you only have to if you wanna support the game

there's no pressure into buying it

just enjoy playing the game

We want it to be skill based

[dusky mist]

Its not that its ruined us, its just alot of us want MORE content, and its a big ask of us, I get it. I personally wanted to get into developing but I couldnt understand a thing. Honestly the clans dont even have to give huge buffs, just clans that are related to their respective breathings get a buff for one or two of thei rmoves each

[loud totem]

how much more content does clans give doe

[dusky mist]

For example, tomioka would just get dead calm, agatsuma would get a better sixfold, rengoku maybe a flame damage buff

[loud totem]

that's just pay to win though

[dusky mist]

It just adds variety to people's choices

[dusky mist]

Are you making clan names paid for?

[loud totem]

i just dont know how to feel about giving advantages to people who gamble

[loud totem]

They're paid spins and give cosmetics, so it's just a way of supporting the game

but we're against pay to win

no matter what

[dusky mist]

Well if you're going to not add any ways of getting spins then yeah its gonna be p2w

[loud totem]

It's better to do a long and convoluted story quest to get dead calm than grind for spins and spin them

[dusky mist]

Yeah I can see where you're coming from, but the main thing is people just want the clans to do SOMETHING

[loud totem]

Even if you give the spins for free, there are still clear advantages to people who pay for more

[dusky mist]

They just feel bland and not worth much

[loud totem]

its not exactly a kekkei genkai

[loud totem]

then you dont need a family

we've got subclasses

Right now, we see it as pay to win

[dusky mist]

The least that could happen with the clans is just a miniature questline for them that doesnt do much

or effects the story slightly

[loud totem]

The only buffs I see with clans if we give any is nothing that gives a major combat item

Something like Deepwoken where it's purely utility

Like out of combat movement speed, etc etc

But if it gives something combat related in pvp thats stupid

Especially since the way you get neat stuff in our game is through participating in community events hosted by faction admins

It's like a roblox war group lol

[dusky mist]

Are there going to be discord servers set up for hinokami or is it just the dsrpg servers

[loud totem]

New servers, new ranks

for factions at least

[dusky mist]

And those'll be linked when the game comes out ig?

[loud totem]

Yup

[dusky mist]

legit, cant wait to see the infinity castle, probably the second most thing im hyped for

[loud totem]

But we kind of believe in the game being fun itself rather than getting to max rank and having everything being fun

Quests shouldn't be a way to get max level

it should be the game itself

[dusky mist]

huh?

[loud totem]

aka we want to make some quests fun

[dusky mist]

but that is part of the game

[loud totem]

yup

but thing is on roblox

thats not the case 100% of the time haha

[dusky mist]

Oh yeah, what I was suggesting earlier is just a fun side quest for clans

[loud totem]

I think Arcane Odyssey was the most fun I had on roblox in a while because of the story and good quests

sadly the case with story games though is they take a while to develop and i hope vetex finishes the entire game before he hits 40

or before it dies

[dusky mist]

ye

[elder moss]

giving clans exclusive moves def makes it pay to win

something like deepwoken race buffs is fine cause they dont make or break your build and the buffs are small

[dusky mist]

I agree that small buffs should be included, but their arguement is going to be the same thing, "Its p2w and makes pvp unfair"

Its like arguing with a judge in court

THEY DECIDE

[elder moss]

if its something like deepwoken race buffs then im fine with it

[dusky mist]

Thats another thing, they want to do pvp and builds based off of deepwoken but they're worried about rng

[toxic girder]

mr.tusk0 You’ve Reached Level 3

[dusky mist]

In deepwoken builds are a lil rng with the cards you get for your builds

You either get the card you need for the build, or you dont and then you have to get knowledge points to "roll" again

[elder moss]

yeah

[dusky mist]

So their arguement isnt very strong

But pvp is fair and balanced which honestly ive been looking for a game like that for AGES

So it works

[loud totem]

nah, i said above that small buffs like deepwoken might be fine lol

[dusky mist]

mb i wasnt readin correctly ig

[distant cairn]

I lowk agree, and you all by all means don't have to listen 😭 , i just felt like putting my opinion out there, i still will play the game religiously as i loved DSRPG2 and you all are truly talented, i just felt like in the anime, Families have certain attributes to them

And yeah now that i've thought about it DSRPG2 never had Families, i just thought "If they're adding Families in this game, it should at least have something" and now that you've confirmed that, i'm at peace.

Thank You for reading my Suggestion.

[toxic girder]

.herecy You’ve Reached Level 1

[loud totem]

Idk it was always weird for me and higoshi because in demon slayer the entire thing of the story was that if you had a tragic incident happen to you, anyone could pick up a blade and dedicate the rest of their lives to destroying what ruined theirs

the only family related thing happened to be Kibutsuji/Uyabashiki and Kamado

everyone else was pretty much just a SUPER hard worker

and the hard workers made their own forms

its just something people carried over from naruto games

for more money ig

[maiden lynx]

how expensive would family rrs even be 😭 icl would hate to be stuck with uyabashiki as a last name

[loud totem]

pretty sure you can get some free (idk)

[maiden lynx]

oh shi w, another question tho if families arent really beneficial at all how would rarities work with that would everything be the same rarity or how would tha work

[loud totem]

dont count on this though this is not being a reliable source

lol

rarities are just rarities

idk what else to say

you get more drip

[maiden lynx]

icl i was just imagining demonfall like rolling or smt wit mythics n shi but then i read more n there might end up being small buffs so it made sense

[loud totem]

rn its cosmetic but the small buffs are just what people have been suggesting we do

[indigo pawn]

Aslong as it isnt like 5% more exp or 5% more dmg type of buffs

[toxic girder]

serpente3466 You’ve Reached Level 4

[indigo pawn]

I dont want the game to become p2w

[loud totem]

we hate p2w

[indigo pawn]

Facts

[indigo pawn]

The reason theres no buffs and pureky cosmetic is because we want the game to be pure skill based

And not p2w that costed the downfall of demonfall

[maiden lynx]

oh thats fair, small buffs would be cool yeah, could do it like ts with clan accessories or smth

[rose narwhal]

lmao imagine being stuck with a burn scar on your face for the entire game cus u rolled ubuyashiki

[loud totem]

nah lol you equip it dw

[rose narwhal]

ur just entirely blind if u turn it on LMAO

[elder moss]

oh thats actually a good idea

it reminds me of the clan wigs in demonfall

[toxic girder]

Here “Oh you’re part of the Rengoku clan? My mentor was a Rengoku.”

[dusky mist]

I mean basically

[toxic girder]

Like if clans had anything make it dialogue based instead

[dusky mist]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind something small like that. It could be just a mini detail like "oh I used to know your father" or sum like that

[loud totem]

OH SHT

thanks

[toxic girder]

Was that a good idea?

[loud totem]

it was

writing it down

i thought about it before but i was tired so i forgot

LOL

[toxic girder]

I have cooked 🔥

I mean that part just felt like if he wants clans to feel more unique but you don’t want to change cosmetic only have it change the world around instead makes for great world building imo

[fair thistle]

The game isn't lore accurate, it's a passion project with the goal of balabce and f2p

[elder moss]

bro actually cooked ngl qol stuff like that is nice and it makes the world feel more real

[toxic girder]

Tyty

[visual sorrel]

Umm project slayers is still popular and its heavyily p2w

Same with weak legacy 2

[loud totem]

hey, just cuz a game is popular doesnt mean its a good thing so

we hate p2w

otherwise im turning the game into sols rng for april fools

[rose narwhal]

Boy do I love children gambling

[indigo pawn]

5k?

You think 5k players is popular?

The only reason it is because the players playing there are a bunch of bums that relys on money

Take away their credit card and they will suffer for sure.

[full cipher]

Y don't u make it that u can buy spins in game with in game money, and clans still have buffs

[visual sorrel]

It’s more popular then dsrpg 2

[indigo pawn]

Are you dumb.

Dsrpg2 is dead because they are focusing on dsrpg3

[indigo pawn]

No

We dont want it to become rng also

[visual sorrel]

Im not but im not stupid even if i were i may be dumb but not stupid

[toxic girder]

If 5K is popular then Roblox has fallen

[indigo pawn]

facts

[elder moss]

5k players for a game that hasn’t updated in forever is good

[cloud scaffold]

js wanna note that this will likely not be a feature IMO due to the UK banning any rng/gambling feature online for minors

[fair thistle]

5k consistent players has been considered to be popular for roblox since 2015

[wicked carbon]

im pretty sure the hasiras arent the same as in the show