Breathing Passives

[real fog]

Basically add a skill tree for the breathing styles,

Way i see it
A) the skill tree lets u unlock those new moves as u level up, and buff certain aspects of those moves as well
B) u learn the breathing style with all the techniques, and the skill tree can still buff certain aspects of the move

And basically, add passives for the breathing styles, and different interactions too I guess

Flame-burn damage, if u want, they’re said to be very determined and passionate, as a battle goes on they get more determined increasing defense slightly
Wind- higher base speed, they’re very agressive, they do more block damage
Thunder- higher dash speed
Water- very defensive form, have greater blocking capabilities, longer parry duration(?)
Stone-slower m1, greater damage, destroyed objects could potentially be used for some of the breathing forms (for example in the manga he hits the ground so hard rocks come up and he hits them towards the enemy)
Mist-edit) mist’s passive was too op so I’ve changed it
For every dash u form a bit of mist in the area, making it a bit harder for the opponent to see, adding to the mist created by the moves themselves
Faster dashing speed
Flower- when hitting moves ur dashing length becomes faster
Sun breathing: burn damage, decreases demon healing speed,
Beast breathing: idk I’ll think of smthn: Edit immunity (or high resistance) to poisons and increased overall durability, serrated swords for more bleed damage
Insect: obviously has the wisteria poison, but should it be used on humans too?
Love- further m1 range, The movement options are faster and better due to the agility of the user
Serpent- a sword is not fully required(moves can be used whilst not having the sword equipped though it will be weaker),
The slashes do not match the animation fully due to the swerving and confusing nature of the breathing style,
Sound: the attacks have a second impact doing extra damage

[cinder pebble]

Everything was good until I got to mist

Just no

Good concept good idea but just can't happen

The amount of complaints devs are going to get will be exponential just because of that

[junior cosmos]

What about sun?

[candid geode]

no

sun

[ruby moss]

Let water breathing allow you to breathe under water

[junior cosmos]

amazing, but one problem, nuh uh

[real fog]

What would u suggest?
Honestly idm any improvements to this suggestion

[real fog]

Would u prefer it to have higher dash speed similar to thunder, but it leaves afterimages in its place, kinda how it works canonically?

[cinder pebble]

It's hard to make one

Cuz if you really think about it

Some can be too overwhelming or overpowered

So I recommend a less longer cool down on abilities and a 18% increase on speed

12% to be safe

[harsh flame]

Every Moveset has 5 passives apparently

Mist is way too OP

[real fog]

Damn.
Nice

[real fog]

I didn’t mean for it to be so op, it was supposed to be a slight visual blur, on the edges of the screen, where if the user is good enough they add a few extra blind spots to the opponent like mist would

[spice parrot]

ultra5343 You’ve Reached Level 1

[harsh flame]

Ohh alr

[candid geode]

Have it create fog not only on the person who is being sliced and diced screen like a cloud that gets denser the more its swung

[sly elm]

Mist could prob make you 80% transparent for every move you hit

Flower is abt agillity

So maybe longer dashes after each hit move, like demon hunter

[real fog]

Oh fair enough,
Maybe even every time he dashes it adds more to the mist

[real fog]

So basically after each move her dashes get faster?
I think better and faster movement options for breathing styles like love too would work as well

[frozen hawk]

Boo

[real fog]

lol ok

Could u help me make it better then?

[frozen hawk]

Not the offensive kind

[real fog]

Wdym? Like for wind?

[frozen hawk]

Boo 👻

[real fog]

That’s not really helpful 😂

[frozen hawk]

lol

I don’t know much about managing and stuff like that

[real fog]

Added

[real fog]

Damn I missed this
Well sun is basically fire damage, but if they add a limb system u could make it so that the limbs take a decently longer time to come back

[median harbor]

nice

wonder how they'd balance the flame passive tho

prob make the burn dmg on m1s have a cd

[median harbor]

stone should do more block dmg, just make wind moves have slightly faster windup, making their m1s faster would be hard to count for the users to combo off of

rest is good but idk where the flower one comes from

[real fog]

Ah good idea, honestly

[spice parrot]

ultra5343 You’ve Reached Level 2

[median harbor]

yo ultra

[real fog]

Flower was suggested by someone above, but the movement idea was mine

It was because love breathing requires extreme agility and strength

[median harbor]

are u the ultra from lost kings

[real fog]

Nope lol

[median harbor]

ah nvm then

[median harbor]

kinda, but u can do a lot with wind

[real fog]

Yh, making them faster and/or stronger r a given

I was thinking of giving thunder faster m1 speed too

[median harbor]

maybe make an m1 that doesn't hit shoot out a gust of air that knocksback

doesn't hav eto be faster

[median harbor]

that'd just be hard to work with since u'd accidently get to 5 m1s and end ur combo streak

[real fog]

Yh, but players rnt supid lmao

They can easily adapt

It’s not like the speed is fluctuating

[median harbor]

that doesn't mean anything

it's harder to count

[real fog]

It’s still a set speed that happens to be faster than most ppl

They’d get used to it cus it’s not like they’re gonna switch breathings so often

Is what I’m saying

[median harbor]

depends

if the game has hold to m1 or not

like in aba if u've ever played that

if it does then that will 100% be a problem

ifnot then u can just click ur mouse 4 times

[real fog]

Fair enough

[junior cosmos]

What about beast breathing

[real fog]

No clue, any ideas?

[thick oxide]

you can assign a keybind for the beast passive

so when you do an m1 combo, you have a choice to press that key and lift them up from ragdoll with your two swords

but it has a dedicated cd

[real fog]

Not 100% sure about this one,
Depending on the combat this could be extremely balanaced or completely broken

[random sleet]

arent thunder's passive and flower's passive is the same? i mean the only difference that your dashes become faster just only when you are hitting someone i mean maybe instead of dashes like thunder just make that your speed will increase 10% or 5% more for 10 sec. also beast breathing could be that you just have a regeneration hp buff or just more hp because inosuke has alot durability and also posions dont affect him so

[real fog]

Good idea for beast breathing
I chose dashing speed for thunder because that tends to be the point of the breathing style, putting strength into ur legs and letting it explode

I don’t have a concrete idea for love just yet, only that the movement options should be better

[random sleet]

ye i understand the passive for thunder just there should be some difference between other breathing styles

[random sleet]

maybe for snake breathing you will have 30% or less to dodge attacks

because you need to be flexible for snake breathing

[real fog]

How do u mean?
30% more time for a perfect dodge or…?

[random sleet]

idk

no no

i mean that the passive

[junior cosmos]

What about a serrated edge, so could cause bleeding easier or longer?

[real fog]

That’s could work!

[junior cosmos]

I feel like love should have more reach becauseof the long sword

[thick oxide]

what about just uhh

the canon passive of serpent

you can use it without your sword?

[real fog]

Wait he can do that?

[thick oxide]

yea

it was shown once

forgot which panel, but serpent breathing can be used without the sword

[real fog]

Now I need sound and moon unless I’m forgetting something

[junior cosmos]

pretty sure moon won't exist

sounds could have shockwaves though, so maybe a second force attack? maybe nerfed tho

[real fog]

Was that confirmed? What of Sun then?

[spice parrot]

ultra5343 You’ve Reached Level 3

[junior cosmos]

I just thought cus hybrid isn;t a thing, but sun isn't a hybrid thing

[real fog]

Even if it isn’t now, it probably will be later

[candid geode]

you could have the passives make it so you run out of beath faster ad can be toggled

[lavish silo]

you can already

[real fog]

What?

[real fog]

Just a reminder that moon and sound breathing still need passives,
If anyone has any suggestions I’ll think about it and add it to the list

[junior cosmos]

Liek I said, what about I kind of shockwave, to add a second hti effect every few hits

[spice parrot]

just.something. You’ve Reached Level 3

[real fog]

Nice

Sorry for missing out

[junior cosmos]

Do u think there should be upgades to the passives every few ranks?

like, hashira level breathing is then betetr than newbie?

[real fog]

Good idea

Maybe actually a skill tree for the breathing styles like wisteria 2 had

That allows players to improve on their chosen breathing style, things like aoe and dash distance

[junior cosmos]

But instead of moves, so higher levels aren't just betetr off, it's certain improvments to thoe moves

like buffs instead of new moves?

[real fog]

Yh

[junior cosmos]

Just an idea, idk tho

[real fog]

Way u see it
A) the skill tree lets u unlock those new moves as u level up
B) u learn the breathing style with all the techniques, and the skill tree can buff certain aspects (dashing distance, aoe etc) of the move

[junior cosmos]

C) (from demonhunter kinda) you can make moves uself

[real fog]

Oh yh, I forgot they had that

But it seems they’ve already gone with having the canon moves

[real fog]

Just moon left

[junior cosmos]

I dunno if moon is gonna exist tho, cus hybrid isn't

[junior cosmos]

for message before this

[median harbor]

higoshi said it wouldn't

[harsh flame]

He did

He just said it wouldn’t be obtained through normal means

[median harbor]

no

i'll ping you

[thick oxide]

he said it would be obtained through special events like in dsrpg2, so @harsh flame is correct.

[thorny blade]

moon will be exclusive for only a handful of people to have

[junior cosmos]

So moon could have ranged circlular half moon kind of additions to attacks?

[real fog]

Maybe, but I’ve reached the word limit on this thing for some reason

[ruby moss]

“Quit yappin and show us your passive or I’m finna crash out!”

Ngl passives should prob be a slayer mark thing

[thorny blade]

No slayer marks

[ruby moss]