genya bda mechanic (for dsrpg3)

[torn monolith]

Obviously idk how genyas hybrid will work but if it's anything like dsrpg2 and it has 3/4 moves then I think this is a good way to implement demon eating, you have to farm demons in the normal world, every boss that has a demon art drops some flesh, and the 3 base moves would be,
1: 1 shot forward, press again to trigger second shot

2: 2 dash slices forward, if thoes hit it does a third sword attack piercing the enemy and holding them up into the air where you shoot them in the head with ur shotgun which makes them fly off the blade

3: you throw your blade which moves slowly the the air but then you can press ur first move to shoot the sword and make it fly towards ur opponent at high speeds

The stuns and whatever will all obviously be ur choice

And for the demon eating mechanic, u can eat demons to change ur first and third attacks effects

One piece of flesh lasts 2 minutes

Normal demons (no bda)
25% Regen buff, 5% more damage on all attacks (all demons with bda will give this passive buff)

Yahaba flesh: you can press H (or any special key) that will make any of ur ranged moves auto track (has a 15 sec CD)

Susumaru flesh: all ur bullets are now temaris, you do 25% more dmg with bullets but it has a 25% more CD and a 0.5+ wind up

This is all as idk what other demon bosses will be added

[stark copper]

wasedrftgyhlp;['

[torn monolith]

is that good or bad

[stark copper]

HEJDIWKDJJEJWISIDJWJIA

[whole plank]

amazing suggestion

[torn monolith]

Tyy

[torn monolith]

Can u give it an upvote

[torn monolith]

E

[arctic palm]

this isn’t adjusted for PVP, which is literally the focus on dsrpg

one way you could do this is to add a new bar called the “Flesh Bar”, where the bar slowly reduces, but the user can replenish it by pressing a key to take a humble chomp out of a nearby demon

[torn monolith]

Well people do have inventories in hinokami (I'm assuming) they could label demon flesh as a pvp item and allow you to bring it into pvp matches where u can eat the demon flesh

And in pvp matches how would u find demons

[arctic palm]

demon players

[torn monolith]

Then u can't use it against human players

[arctic palm]

just apply the chomping thing to humans too

just like how insect poison affects humans too

[stark copper]

bad suggestion

[torn monolith]

Sorry I don't speak to low lives

[torn monolith]

But then how r u gonna get the demon art specials

And also it's way more fun and interactive with the game if u get to pick out and choose what demon fleshes u want

[stark copper]

nah you’re just mad

[torn monolith]

Ur just boring and uncreative

[stark copper]

well what do you want me to do, write an essay about how bad your suggestion is instead of just saying ‘bad suggestion’ and moving on?

[torn monolith]

Yes actually

Cuz u J's sound like u hate fun

[stark copper]

i don’t hate fun i just don’t feel like typing a paragraph, but if you insist

okay so first of all, it would have completely different combat mechanics that are wayyyy too far off from the basic “use move, do damage” system, the events with this bda would be goofy because if they would let you eat before them then it would be op and if they didn’t then it would be trash. It would be really annoying to use it considering you could run out of buff’s in the middle of a fight and it would be tedious to have to kill demons before every single fight, so the pvp with this bda is trash but i will give it points for the pve. The grinding might actually be enjoyable while using this because you would have to get from area to area quickly to do quests so you wouldn’t run out of buffs, if you were just grinding abnormals then you would get increasingly stronger which would be enjoyable. Overall, this bda would be a nice starter for low levels doing quests but for pvp, the main focus of the game, it wouldn’t be that good.

theres your essay, are you happy?

[torn monolith]

No cuz ur concerns are all so ass

How is

Diff meat = diff power ups a complex mechanic

And ur acting like u can't carry multiple meat at once??

[stark copper]

i never said it's complex i just said it's too far removed from the base combat system

[torn monolith]

It literally isn't

It's the same as food buffs got a game

Like eat food = +10 HP

[stark copper]

there are no food buffs food just regens you 💀

[torn monolith]

It follows the same gis don't act so smooth brained

[stark copper]

my guy it's just a bad suggestion, you gotta except that and stop whining

[torn monolith]

And if u run out of the buff just eat another piece of meat

[stark copper]

you act like you've never had criticism in your life

[torn monolith]

Not taking criticism from someone who says "except"

[stark copper]

aw dam fair point

[torn monolith]

And again ur making invalid points and misinterpreting what I'm saying so ofc I'm gonna defend my suggestion

[stark copper]

accept*

[stark copper]

okay but you don't have to whine and cry about it, you can defend it respectfully like a sane human being

[torn monolith]

Yes actually I do cuz ur pfp looks really fucking annoying

[stark copper]

okay okay so

basically

[torn monolith]

The kid in ur pfp is pissing me off

[stark copper]

your argument is that my pfp is annoying so you're gonna whine and cry to me about how my argument is trash

[torn monolith]

Well no ur arguement is trash the reason for not being respectful is cuz ur pfp is annoying me

[stark copper]

all i can really tell you in this situation is cry about it.

if you're that sensitive about my pfp then maybe try flagging it

[arctic palm]

yeah it can still apply for PVE, rn i’m talking about PVP

[torn monolith]

Eating the flesh itself and gaining abilities is also applied to pvp tho

[arctic palm]

when you play ranked or HvD you won’t have demon npcs running around, what then?

[torn monolith]

I'm Abit confused , maybe biting down on a person can just be like a move instead

[torn monolith]

Label fleshes as pvp items, like how in dsrpg2 u can carry all ur swords and items in ur inv

[arctic palm]

most likely won’t transfer over to gamemodes

[torn monolith]

Well they can easily make it happen

[arctic palm]

but it really doesn’t make sense compared to just applying the biting feature to players

[torn monolith]

Just make the inventory accessible in ranked or whatever and blacklist items that aren't allowed

[torn monolith]

It does because biting players for humans it would be a normal demon boost and for ppl with demon arts how do u add the taking Abit of their art mechanic in

[arctic palm]

i know you wanna preserve the idea of being able to adopt different powers by eating different meats, but it just doesn’t make sense in a PVP sense

[torn monolith]

Cuz then they have to make alot of variants for the bda while with the flesh eating it's only for bosses and basic npcs, so they have more time to release more quality versions of each bda variant

[torn monolith]

Think of it like having a strength potion in Minecraft

U can carry it with u and swap to it and takes like 3 seconds to eat it

[arctic palm]

or they could use an idea similar to mine where there’s a bar

[torn monolith]

Or both

[arctic palm]

does this mean before every gamemode match id need to prepare a feast?

[torn monolith]

U don't need to have a max limit on how much flesh u can carry

Like for dif flesh the stronger it is the less u can carry maybe or just make like

U can carry 10 fleshes of any type at a time

[arctic palm]

the point is that before i play a gamemode match, i need to prepare flesh from main game, which makes no sense

[torn monolith]

And u just switch to it and eat it whenever needed

[torn monolith]

U will be killing demons to level up, no?

[arctic palm]

💀are you high

[torn monolith]

U would already accumulate alot from just leveling up

In game

[arctic palm]

i’m not even gonna try arguing against this logic

[torn monolith]

And yes why can't u farm Abit before going in pvp ??

[arctic palm]

levels are set to 0 in gamemode

[torn monolith]

Doesn't that make the game more interactive

[arctic palm]

because it makes no sense. it’s a GAMEMODE

[torn monolith]

I'm saying when u kill demons

They drop flesh

If there's a level req on gamemode

U will already have alot of flesh

Before even being able to have gamemode

[arctic palm]

i think i have an idea that would be more to your liking

[torn monolith]

??

[torn monolith]

Also ur idea isn't bad I'm just saying how will they decide what bda u switch to

Is it just random? Or are there chances

Cuz pvp being rng based will make ppl mad

[arctic palm]

Extra skill: The user pulls up an inventory, where he can select different buffs. After selecting one, the user summons and eats a chunk of meat granting the respective powers. After that, the skill enters cooldown.

[torn monolith]

Won't that take long??

[arctic palm]

ig this would make sense in pvp, but at this point it’s not even genya anymore

[torn monolith]

Mid fight

[arctic palm]

if you’re not in the middle of dodging shit id imagine its manageable, and it’s outrageous to give yourself buffs in the middle of a combo anyway

[arctic palm]

you’d have to lose that aspect

[torn monolith]

Eating flesh I said would take like 3 seconds meaning u can be interrupted

[arctic palm]

yeah, so how would my idea take “too long”

[torn monolith]

And u need to hold the flesh out so unless ur attacks work with a piece of meat it makes no sense

[arctic palm]

bro we have the same point here

[torn monolith]

Cuz one is pulling up a whole tab while one is just eating a piece of meat while being slowed down for 3 seconds

Where u can still see everything

And stop eating to quickly dash away

Where with a tab in ur face u can't do that

[arctic palm]

pulling up a tab is not that difficult

yes, it can be a hindrance if the opponent decides to rush you while you’re busy, but it can be a “nerf” to the bda

[arctic palm]

this would shift the skill factor of the bda to being fast and decisive

[stark copper]

das what i’m saying

[torn monolith]

Ig

But then the whole idea of the farming flesh beforehand gets thrown out the window

[arctic palm]

i just explained why “the whole idea” is bad

[torn monolith]

Ur point was that u need to farm before pvp, or have the flesh on u

U not liking that mechanic is personal taste

Not objective, and also ur not forced to use it