Nerf flame at least a little bit

[abstract ivy]

I swear once a flame user hits you with one godforsaken move you should just give up then and there, they have become masters of using the exact same move pattern over and over and there is nothing to counter it. For the love of christ do something

(Dsrpg 2 btw)

[kindred marlin]

personally, as someone who has used flame breathing before, the actual hitbox of the first skill seems to be pretty small compared to other breathings (could be due to lag, but case in point)

[kindred marlin]

not sure if you’re aware, the “same move pattern” is also called a combo. Combos apply to most, if not all breathings and demon arts.

there is, in fact, a way to counter combos, and that is to simply not get combo’d.

[abstract ivy]

I’m talking about infinite combos

I get hit with one move and I physically cannot escape

[kindred marlin]

flame has an inf combo?

[abstract ivy]

Yes

[kindred marlin]

then get love breathing

[abstract ivy]

I’m a demon

[kindred marlin]

too bad

[abstract ivy]

Bruh tf

[kindred marlin]

my personal opinion, but love breathing solves all problems

[abstract ivy]

Love breathing has an even worse situation with inf combos

[obsidian whale]

yourdad7216 You’ve Reached Level 5

[kindred marlin]

actually i’m gonna have to disagree

[abstract ivy]

You’re also probably a love user

[kindred marlin]

what gave it away?

[abstract ivy]

This exact statement

[kindred marlin]

love breathing inf combo is very hard to pull off unless you’re on constant 280ms

[abstract ivy]

-_-

[kindred marlin]

it’s true, try it yourself

[abstract ivy]

I have

[kindred marlin]

did it go well?

[abstract ivy]

It’s extremely easy

You also only have 3 moves

[kindred marlin]

then continue using love breathing

[abstract ivy]

I haven’t in quite a while

And still won’t

But can we agree on one thing?

[kindred marlin]

easy solution to flame breathing: love breathing

[abstract ivy]

Water is op asf

[kindred marlin]

actually no

love breathing more or less counters it

[abstract ivy]

Love breathing counters everything

[kindred marlin]

love breathing 1st skill has a larger hitbox than water breathing 1st skill

[kindred marlin]

and hence, i wholeheartedly endorse it to you

[abstract ivy]

Hell no

down with all inf combos

There’s like 4 breathings that can do it and one demon art

[kindred marlin]

here’s the thing

it’s difficult to actually convince, or otherwise demand the developers to make such balance changes to old breathings

especially since there’s the newer demon arts and a whole different game for them to focus on

so, instead of fixating on something that’s pretty much out of your control, why not adapt to the current circumstances?

you acknowledge that slayers have an advantage, so become a slayer

it’s like a change in public transport timings irl. imagine the bus you normally take to work suddenly has a different schedule, and only becomes available 1 hour earlier

[abstract ivy]

Take another bus?

[kindred marlin]

what do you do? certainly not complain and protest for the changes to be reverted, but rather, you change your own schedule to fit that of the bus

[abstract ivy]

Fair

[kindred marlin]

or alternatively, you use another bus

likewise, demons are disadvantaged, so stop being a demon

[abstract ivy]

There’s already a mass demon shortage

[kindred marlin]

god tier yapping 💀

[abstract ivy]

Fr lol

[kindred marlin]

but will 1 less or more demon really make a difference?

be a slayer now, and make demons the minority race!

because i hate other races (in dsrpg. talking about demon race.)!

[abstract ivy]

You’d be good in marketing

[kindred marlin]

honestly yeah

[abstract ivy]

Like Fr actually try and go into a marketing job

[kindred marlin]

try to sneak in racism with selling skincare products

i think i have my career choice now, thanks buddy!

[abstract ivy]

LMFAO

👍

[mystic egret]

fr, the onlky way i can get out of those damn combos is cuz im movile and can run backwards 💀

[lost geyser]

love is water on steroids

[lost geyser]

no,, your not.

[lavish steeple]

flame doesn't need a nerf, its pretty well rounded love water serpent and maybe insect are breaths that need a nerf in my opinion

[strange copper]

Is this like an epidemic or something? That eagle guy my dad to use something (allegedly) broken to counter something broken. Do people really not know what proper balancing is?

[kindred marlin]

you do know what a joke is, right?

[strange copper]

No. enlighten me

[lavish steeple]

just get good

[strange copper]

No

[lavish steeple]

then don’t complain about it to the devs complain about it to yourself

[strange copper]

Is it wrong to want a balanced game now?

[kindred cedar]

impossible...

[remote lark]

I guess so

[wispy leaf]

womp womp

[lost geyser]

Dsrpg2... Balanced.. That feels unnatural in the same sentence

[kindred cedar]

There are at least 3 infinite combos I know of, this game aint being balanced lol

[gilded saddle]

I completely agree with you it's the same with water and it's super painful

[gilded saddle]

how can you avoid being hit by a combo if you're being hit over and over again without having time to react? this is not a solution

[wispy leaf]

by avoiding being hit

[remote lark]

Skill issue I guess

Joke

[slate narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/block-parry-block-parry-and-dodge-gif-18029099493843497979

[gilded saddle]

Lol all it takes is one blow and the guy pulls out his entire arsenal in your face

[gilded saddle]

Heu no

[wispy leaf]

just dont take that one blow 🙄

[gilded saddle]

Haha I like to laugh

[wet copper]

Usually people don’t inf with love

Most would be around 70%

Doesn’t mean there isn’t an inf but flame infs are worse

Love inf combos are easy to escape unless bad ping (spoken by a love main named himari)

[wispy leaf]

I mean they don’t really need to especially with the players now

The m1 range is enough lmao

[kindred marlin]

and im not usually a person

[lost geyser]

Love is water. With huge range

[amber vortex]

@past mauve uhh

kowalski, analysis

https://tenor.com/view/penguins-of-madagascar-skipper-kowalski-analysis-analysis-madagascar-gif-23546606

[past mauve]

What am I looking at specifically

[amber vortex]

flame isnt op right

opinions on flame

[past mauve]

its

autistic ngl

needs a nerf for sure

been saying it forever

[amber vortex]

got et

cpet the problem is getting higo

lol

[lavish steeple]

flame is good but it takes skill to use and or beat, heres how to evade the moves

1. try to stay relatively far away from flame users and then just pb 1.

2. its m1 range, again just stay relatively far away and pb it.

3. ngl you suck if you get hit by a passive 3

4. 4 is relatively good if they dash behind you and use it but its hard to start a combo from that and also it only does like 10% dmg.

5. if you can’t deal with 5 then get tf off the game.

[lost geyser]

Summary of this: run until they give up or get sloppy

[kindred marlin]

just adding on to this:

Skill 1: It has a relatively small hitbox, so just dodge away from it, and also keep your distance

Skill 2: Dash away if a flame user suddenly and quickly advances right up to you; he’s most likely going to use his second skill.

Skill 3: Just keep blocking.

Skill 4: Just pay attention. Block. Or dash.

Skill 5: Camp the first phase animation. Otherwise, keep running. When second phase happens, also run or dodge

flame breathing’s pretty defensive so it should be relatively easy to avoid

[lavish steeple]

i agree with this but i wouldn’t say its defensive, very offensive very easy to pb from my experience

[elfin crater]

how slow is the 1st after the nerf

[dense tree]

the only that needs nerfing is demon arts especially akaza

[kindred marlin]

i disagree 💀

it’s good if you’re good, bad if you’re bad

[slate narwhal]

nah it has some pretty defensive properties to it

a lot of people don't know that flame R can't be canceled

only pbed

I always save my flame R if I'm fighting a pillar or uppermoon

to predict their flashstep

it can be very useful defensively

[amber vortex]

aakza awakening hitbox is so jank

that needs a giant nerf lmfao idk how we missed that

[kindred marlin]

just camp the awakening tho

[slate narwhal]

Thunder 5th:

[dense tree]

even the owners admitts akaza is broken and you trying to defend it crazy

[slate narwhal]

i mean akaza is good if used well

most of the people that complain about it still lose to people who raw Y with it though

and those players aren't hard to beat if you have an ounce of pb knowledge

and using the awakening on akaza can be a death wish against a few types of breaths that can easy camp it.

Thunder 5th, Wind T (if timed well), Water 5th (if timed well), etc.

are good examples

[kindred marlin]

buddy i’m sorry i have conflicting opinions with your almighty vidgamenate

but i think you failed to realise that

nowhere did i ever say he couldn’t make the changes he wanted

i don’t think i really went that far to “defend” akaza bda, considering i only said 5 words regarding it after vidgamenate’s response

oh, developer said it’s good, i guess now everyone in existence has to adopt the same opinion

[dense tree]

I agree it can be bad if a players is bad with it but the mode thingy is just broken

[dense tree]

I have no almighty except for god don't project whatever glazing you have going on to me and no I never said you can't have your own opinion but the person who created it admitts it should have been nerfed do you realise what that means?

[wispy leaf]

He wasn’t exactly the person who made it

He mostly does sound effects

[spark bluff]

🙎

[wispy leaf]

I used to like to think of it as a consequence if I really had someone pop it on me and I didn’t stop em lol

Until I learned how to counter it

[dense tree]

ye I know higoshi and the other devs helped to make it

[dense tree]

If your super low and they pop it then it's a gg

[wispy leaf]

I mean at that point you was gon lose anyway if you let the whole thing play and it activates

They jus doing it to stunt on you

[amber vortex]

I do a little bit of everything

but since no one else can do sound effects im mainly doing it

[wispy leaf]

Yeah I saw something about vfx from you at some point in the server

[amber vortex]

for instance, i 3d modelled hantengu's spear

[lost geyser]

untrue, go use akaza rn and come back

which tbh if you have a complaint go use the bda or breath and come back to share both sides

[dense tree]

Don't need to I see gameplay of demons vs slayers and even demon admit bdas are broken even the owners admitted it

[lost geyser]

just go use it man

[lost geyser]

and thats my point

[lost geyser]

thats like saying the combat in a game feels bad because you saw a youtube gameplay video

[amber vortex]

Akaza awakening air type hitbox shouldnt be that big lmfao

[lost geyser]

yeah but any other awakening move can pretty much wait out akaza

and other than that, its just dont get m1d or hit by T

because it has pretty good combos lik