Discussion About Progression in ROBLOX RPGs

[midnight jewel]

I think we've all heard the term "bandit beater" passed around about as much as your mother on a Friday night, but a well thought out alternative, much like your father or Nate after founding Tenko no Renge, is nowhere to be found. A lot of games nowadays love to claim that when they will totally definitely release sometime soon and aren't farming money from people willing to buy tester spots, that their game will not be a "bandit beater". And then the claim will either just be either a. total cap, or b. just bandit beating with the occasional errand running or find some object around the map, which honestly is a lot worse.

So onto the suggestion part of this suggestion post, I'd like to recommend a few ways that progression can be diversified, which will make the game feel a lot better, and hopefully eliminate complaining about the dreaded grind.

Before this though, I want to make an important distinction, between progression, and the progression meta. The meta being the quickest way to grind. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you have the most fun, rewarding progression system that will make your dad come back, if it isn't the most effective way to gain levels, the sweaty players will still pick the faster route, and then cry and complain that the progression is boring even though that's what they chose. Point is, not only do you need to diversify progression as a whole, but you need to diversify the progression meta, this is a very important distinction to make.

Alright, on to my suggestion about how to diversify the progression meta, honestly this is the most simple part of the suggestion, and it is as easy as just thinking about something that is fun, and could logically fit in a Demon Slayer game. Here are a few of my own personal suggestions that I think are underutilized on the ROBLOX platform.

• Puzzles
• Parkour
• Exploration
• Boss fights that are mechanically different than just a typical NPC with fancy moves and more health (think destiny 2 raids)

[rocky pelican]

this is the most professional-sounding suggestion i’ve seen here

and the contents inside seem reasonable

i support this suggestion

[distant orchid]

I support but I don’t remember any puzzles in demon slayer?

[oblique thorn]

Hm...

sniffing out demons, following their tracks to find them.

puzzles on the mugen train.

[distant orchid]

That’s not a puzzle 💀

[distant orchid]

What puzzle?

[oblique thorn]

Maybe lockpicking the window to get on top of the train

simple things like that help

[distant orchid]

True

[oblique thorn]

Like in spiderman yk

when you have to fix the radars, quite a unique, simple, yet effective feature

[distant orchid]

Yea

Another great suggestion open world activities

[oblique thorn]

to elongate the progression, and to add a bit of class to the game

[distant orchid]

This would add on to the new PVE environment system higoshi wants

[oblique thorn]

fax, but don't make it boring quests or smth

[oblique thorn]

Yeah

This suggestion is pure W

[distant orchid]

Yea not like demonfall where it takes like 6 hours to find one player/quest💀

[oblique thorn]

Yea

Maybe, add the hashira training

With some nice dialogue

And some, ofc training

BUT GOD, do not make it dragging a boulder

need to think of something fun...

But not like project slayers with the keyboard minigames, because that means you can't exactly progress if you don't have that proper skill

[distant orchid]

Yea

[oblique thorn]

Maybe little detection minigames

Like you have to find something

[distant orchid]

Or maybe like finding places to loot?

[oblique thorn]

then maybe that old crouch with footstep thing would be useful 💀

[oblique thorn]

Yeah kinda, but don't make it a constant thing, that would bore them to death

Make it exclusive to loot only

and maybe a different way to find it too

[distant orchid]

Yea

I feel like they could help better the PVE environment more with this stuff in stead of just houses and tress and such

[oblique thorn]

Yeah, @tiny halo Give this suggestion a W

[distant orchid]

Fr

[rocky pelican]

yes, but you can still find ways to implement puzzles such that they fit in

[distant orchid]

Yea

[rocky pelican]

💀💀

[distant orchid]

I think more environmental stuff would be cool!

[rocky pelican]

i think puzzles would work really well with breathing quests

[distant orchid]

Rather then just exploring the whole map once or twice and it be kinda boring

[oblique thorn]

Didn't think abt that ngl

[rocky pelican]

parkour’s already implemented into mist breathing

didn’t turn out so bad

[oblique thorn]

Wait... Maybe if they have like an entertainment arc

[distant orchid]

Yea like in order to get [Specific skill/breath] go to a cave do a puzzle to open door do parkour/challenges and bam

[oblique thorn]

they could make a requirement to have at least one sound breather (hang on)

well maybe not requirement

[rocky pelican]

sound breathing puzzle: basically osu

[oblique thorn]

but if u are one, then you have to constantly breathe, and it would make a sound when you're near

[distant orchid]

And they also do biomes like Minecraft Slayer core could have sakura trees, caves could have vines and so much more

[rocky pelican]

what…

[distant orchid]

We should all make a suggestion for more environmental stuff : )

[oblique thorn]

when you are on top, then you press a key and it does the scene from the anime (doesn't have to be a cutscene)

[oblique thorn]

Do they not already have it in dsrpg2

[distant orchid]

Yea it makes sense, like DSRPG2 has snow for mountains and it was plain lower

[rocky pelican]

they should add urokodaki’s obstacle course as a quest

[distant orchid]

Kinda but it was either snow, or just grass

They could add more for different regions

[oblique thorn]

Ew, but don't make it like demonfall, I had to grind that sh for like 20 times 💀

[distant orchid]

Also add a map especially if they make a big map

[rocky pelican]

basically urokodaki chases you so you have to run while avoiding wires

[oblique thorn]

regions? it's set in japan

[oblique thorn]

No, the wires are annoying asf

[distant orchid]

Not regions but like more stuff for the environment

[rocky pelican]

but still fun

[distant orchid]

Instead of just grass and snow

[oblique thorn]

barely, in demonfall it took all joy out of me

[rocky pelican]

maybe they didn’t do it right

[oblique thorn]

exactly, the wires

that's what they didn't do right

[rocky pelican]

fair

[oblique thorn]

maybe add one or 2, don't add the whole amazon package 💀

[rocky pelican]

💀💀💀

[distant orchid]

Kinda like demon fall there were more like caves had vines and stuff, the slayer core had these cool trees and forests and waterfalls (demon fall isn’t the best with graphics though) and they had a place that was snow cuz it was in the mountains

[oblique thorn]

OMG

[distant orchid]

If they have just snow and grass the PVE environment is just plain

[rocky pelican]

add a desert in japan 💀

[oblique thorn]

finally, found someone who said a paragraph with commas.

[distant orchid]

Add Arthur Morgan there

[rocky pelican]

💀💀💀💀

[distant orchid]

Who?

[distant orchid]

I’m not joking 💀

[oblique thorn]

you

[distant orchid]

Oh

[oblique thorn]

This guy too

[distant orchid]

I forgot we were in a suggestion room 💀

[rocky pelican]

higoshi should add an unbeatable boss for the memes

make it a yoriichi boss and promise it gives sun breathing when defeated

[distant orchid]

Anyways anyone wanna make the suggestion for this PVE stuff we all talking about

[distant orchid]

💀

[rocky pelican]

but only twist is that you can’t defeat it

[distant orchid]

Bro everyone gonna be crying

[rocky pelican]

exactly

[oblique thorn]

Nah make it like the tanjiro boss

but permanent sun

and 50x more health

[distant orchid]

Higoshi should add himself as a boss and if u defeat him you get a glowing nichi

[rocky pelican]

but infinite health

[rocky pelican]

he did add himself as a boss

[oblique thorn]

Higoshi boss, 20x health of that

[rocky pelican]

that makes it defeatable

[oblique thorn]

and when you die it respawns

[oblique thorn]

cap

[distant orchid]

Oh yea but like there should be rewards but also higoshi should have 100000000000 health and it takes like 30 people (12 player serves could exist again 💀)

[rocky pelican]

the point is that it’s absolutely unbeatable, so when people find out they been fighting for no reason, they will cry

[oblique thorn]

already did

[distant orchid]

Lol

[distant orchid]

But the rewards 👌

[rocky pelican]

add a boss but if you get hit by it you get banned 💀

[distant orchid]

Higoshi boss 💀

[oblique thorn]

Nah man make it higoshi boss 50x health and when you die, it respawns and it has extra sun breathing moves

and each move does half your health

or your whole bar

[rocky pelican]

or just make it straight up reset your progress

[distant orchid]

Nah that should be a boss get hit and ban but if you defeat it with proof you can get any breathing like custom/Sun/Moon

[rocky pelican]

no

[oblique thorn]

a

[oblique thorn]

hackers?

[rocky pelican]

higoshi boss, but it resets your progress 💀

[distant orchid]

He could instantly respawn

Would make it harder on people

[oblique thorn]

what abt people who actually did it

bit unfair

[distant orchid]

True

[rocky pelican]

or add a higoshi boss, if it dies it multiplies into 2 higoshi bosses, and if both die they multiply into 4 and so on

[oblique thorn]

and how would you get proof

if it instantly respawns

[distant orchid]

Should add a hardcore game mode, you die you get ban

[oblique thorn]

NO

[distant orchid]

Hurry and take a screeny

[oblique thorn]

WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS

[oblique thorn]

then hackers can do that too

[distant orchid]

It’s not forced, could be like private servers

[rocky pelican]

higoshi boss but it can fly 💀

[oblique thorn]

good

[distant orchid]

But they are showing themselves cheating 💀

[oblique thorn]

abomination of a boss

[oblique thorn]

nah they could just take screenie of dead boss

[distant orchid]

Higoshi boss but he can turn into eren

[oblique thorn]

wha

[distant orchid]

W spec for higoshi

[oblique thorn]

He already has that

watch gompachiro vs higoshi

[distant orchid]

Not in dsrpg3

[rocky pelican]

sun breathing but it heals your opponent 💀

[distant orchid]

I have

[oblique thorn]

wha

[rocky pelican]

sun breathing but you only do damage to yourself 💀

[distant orchid]

Moon breathing but it only works during a full moon ( have to be in server for 10 hours)💀

[oblique thorn]

I mean

that could be a side effect of sun breathing

as portrayed in the anime

[distant orchid]

Unless you have kamado clan

Like demonfall

Except not as bad

[rocky pelican]

and you have to be in line of sight with the moon, and you must emote under the moon

[oblique thorn]

ever seen tanjiro getting hurt while using it?

[distant orchid]

You have to do a Fortnite emote

[rocky pelican]

sun breathing but everytime you deal damage your screen becomes darker

[distant orchid]

Great suggestion higoshi add Fortnite emotes

[distant orchid]

Sun breathing but if you use it you get banned

[oblique thorn]

and it costs 2 million yen to buy a fortnite emote

[rocky pelican]

sun breathing but you stop breathing

[oblique thorn]

lol

[distant orchid]

And make yen impossible to get

[oblique thorn]

sun breathing but the sun falls on you

[rocky pelican]

sun breathing but you get sent to the sun

[distant orchid]

Sun breathing but you turn into a Fortnite character if u use it

[oblique thorn]

sun breathing but you are the sun

[rocky pelican]

sun breathing but your dad comes home

[distant orchid]

Meth breathing, specifically Walter white spec

[oblique thorn]

lol

[rocky pelican]

jesse?

[oblique thorn]

sigma breathing

[distant orchid]

🤨

[oblique thorn]

bugatti bda

[rocky pelican]

top g breathing

[distant orchid]

W

[oblique thorn]

1st move : Where's your bugatti?
The user asks the opponent a horrifying question, stunning them, and making them rethink their life choices, when used, the user gains 5k yen.

[distant orchid]

Anyways who can make the suggestion for the PVE stuff

[distant orchid]

💀W

[rocky pelican]

💀💀💀

only cost is that the user loses his hair

[oblique thorn]

lol

bru-

[distant orchid]

And is forced to wear sunglasses

It makes ur screen dark

[rocky pelican]

2nd move: Misogyny
The user rambles about his views of other people and angers them so much they receive damage. (1.5x damage to women)

[distant orchid]

💀

[distant orchid]

3 skill; user throws a Bugatti at player clicked on has inf range but user can get hit if in way ( -2.5 damage if another user of TOPG deflects it by also throwing Bugatti)

[rocky pelican]

3rd move: Sparkling wa’er
The user drinks sparkling water, turning him into an ultra top g, and does more damage, skills also no longer have cool-down

[oblique thorn]

4th Move : Matrix escape.
The user dodges all opponents attacks, and in turn, forces them to hustler's university, making the opponent make money, yet take critical damage from being incorrect. User gains 10k yen.

[rocky pelican]

4th move: Pizza delivery
The user unleashes a large AOE attack that instantly kills anyone in the server. However afterwards the user’s location gets leaked by pizza delivery and is ambushed by the police and is put in jail

[oblique thorn]

1% chance of gaining this bda, although you can gain it by buying a Bugatti for higoshi

[rocky pelican]

💀💀

[oblique thorn]

I love how this has so many comments with 3 people

[distant orchid]

5th move : User turns into Andrew Tate, has power of money throwing coins piercing the skin, while also blocking damage with Cash bills, and able to teleport when looking at failed non TOPG and has Bugatti traversal that allows the user of TOPG breath to drive

[distant orchid]

Fr

Are we even allowed to be doing this 💀

[rocky pelican]

i don’t know 💀

[distant orchid]

Bro if higoshi did that omg

He’s gonna be making cash 💀

[oblique thorn]

6th Move : Breathe air.
When in the state of 5th move, the user says "BREATHE AIR," this scares the opponent, dealing damage to their mental state. +75% dmg to people with asthma.

[rocky pelican]

💀💀💀

[distant orchid]

Bro we just came up with so much for higoshi he’s gonna make cash bro

Give higoshi 100k for any spec

I think higoshi did something like give him nitro or something for a spec

Higoshi spec one hit one ban

[oblique thorn]

uhm

welp, my message was deleted 💀

[distant orchid]

Why?

[oblique thorn]

bc I was talking abt when andrew tate

mocks people, acting R tarded

it was 7th move

people with Top G bda are immune to this

but otherwise, this effect lasts for 1 year

constantly damaging the opponent

[distant orchid]

People with top g have inf health because TOP Gs don’t get unhealthy

Anyways imma go now bye : )

[oblique thorn]

cya

:))))

[distant orchid]

Byeee

[midnight jewel]

Damn this got hella messages

[distant orchid]

Fr it’s just three people talking 💀

[white coyote]

OSHT FLASH

WTF FLASH

HI

anyways yeah every game these days have a bandit beating aspect in them

in reality, most singleplayer games on your handy dandy ps5 are just bandit beaters

the only difference is how much they notice its a bandit beater

its a "bandit beater" when they're not having fun doing it

and if all AIs are essentially doing the exact same thing instead of having different strategies for each one

eg. different attack patterns

one of the game experience heuristics

[midnight jewel]

Yooo Wsp Nate hope you been good

And yea you’re right, while bandit beating is treated like the greatest evil to ever face the roblox rpg platform, it can still be fun fighting npcs if you make the combat varied enough

Helps to divide npcs into different classes, like uhhhh ranged fighters, heavy fighters, etc

But you gotta make sure the difference in the way these npcs fight forces the player to change the way they approach them, it doesn’t do any good if an npc enemy fights differently than another if the player can beat them in the exact same way

[oblique thorn]

Like for one of them, you'll need to specifically sneak attack

Or to make it easier to fight tanjiro boss, you could cover your scent

[loud sentinel]

sort of a puzzle that about hantengu's and Gyutaro + Daki battle, when they had to figure out that they need to cut both heads

[midnight jewel]

puzzles in the game don't always have to be directly related to fighting, or what exactly occurred in the anime, I was more thinking of using puzzles as a means to enhance exploring the world. Things like accessing secret areas through puzzles that are rewarding for figuring out. Through in random generation in said puzzles to prevent it from being solvable by just looking up a yt tutorial

[tulip jacinth]

aids#6495 You’ve Reached Level 3

[rocky pelican]

then again if there’s a really difficult puzzle then there should be tutorials on it

in case some people can’t solve it

[loud sentinel]

not if the reward is overpowered, or really cool

[storm wyvern]

YouTube will take care of that problem

[rocky pelican]

ye i’m saying upload the tutorials to youtube

[agile wyvern]

That defeats the purpose of making a puzzle...

Why make a puzzle and then give people the answers lmao

Might as well not make the puzzle

People can make their own tutorial after they figured it out

[rocky pelican]

its only for the really hard ones

and yes ofc dont release the tutorials immediately

[agile wyvern]

Wtf

What game makes tutorials on how to complete their game 😭

Defeats the purpose

[rocky pelican]

fair

[agile wyvern]

Play real games sometime please

[rocky pelican]

ok broski relax

[tulip jacinth]

Poprings#8539 You’ve Reached Level 52

[rocky pelican]

no need to get too worked up fella

[agile wyvern]

far from worked up, im just amazed at how stupid you are

[rocky pelican]

ok bro sorry i didn’t put much thought into my idea

[dense wasp]

Dont mind it this community is quite toxic💀🤡

[sullen raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/love-him-or-hate-him-driving-straight-facts-gif-16055046

[floral silo]

Bros name is aids 💀

[distant orchid]

Not toxic just don’t make say/do dumb things or else u won’t be clowned

[random root]

Y'all still keeping the same m1s style in rpg3 right?

[turbid robin]

Why reuse old things from a 3 year old game?

[random root]

Bc I like rpg2 m1s and I can't see anything else beating that

[sullen raptor]

to translate, he can only perfect block that.

[olive belfry]

Jokes on him pb is being removed for dsrpg3

[sullen raptor]

ggs

[static pilot]

Devil fruit pvp

[turbid robin]

It’s just getting nerfed in rpg3

Stun time smaller

[olive belfry]

Oh

Nvm then

[barren torrent]

agreed

[rocky pelican]

legend has it that nosmas’ vocabulary consists only of “agreed”

[barren torrent]

agreed

[sweet bolt]

agreed

[olive belfry]

agreed

[rocky pelican]

agreed

[proud kelp]

i support it

[viral rivet]

Guys I have a theory

I think Higoshi is planning something

I think a new demon slayer game is being created

Just a theory tho

[kind spire]

….

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-25544466

[olive belfry]

Nah no way bro

[sullen raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/hogwarts-legacy-wizarding-world-warner-bros-interactive-entertainment-portkey-games-slytherin-gif-25219751

[midnight jewel]

Damn this shit doin numbers

I wanted to expand upon the original post at some point because I got cut off by discord character limits, but never got around to it

[sweet bolt]

wait Higoshi is making an RPG?

oh I thought this was a cart ride obby 😂

[olive belfry]

I thought this was another mario cart game

[rocky pelican]

i think he’s naming it after demon slayer

[kind spire]

I feel like this would probably be a good and original thin to add though ofc this would be annoying if everything was easy it wouldnt be fun, dragging a boulder to a certain area seems like a good thing to add.

[oblique thorn]

not original and annoying.

[viral rivet]

Nah THATS taking it too far

Too theorical

Get real.

[rocky pelican]

eh

would be cool if he made dsrpg3 tho

[olive belfry]

All that will do is keep dsrpg2 alive for a week

It's pointless plus dsrpg2 is too outdated

[turbid robin]

Basically the equivalent of slayers unleashed just increasing level cap

Ain’t finna change anything

At this point

[tulip jacinth]

As i read parkour i imagined hashira training missions, each hashira has a different parkour area and at different difficulties

[barren torrent]

agreed

[patent rock]

facts brother, so true my friend.

spit yo shit indeed 🗣️

[ornate spruce]

You'll get your stone at dsrpg3

That is if they add it

[fast kiln]

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DD

[oblique thorn]

keep it 69 ticks

[tulip jacinth]

Get girlfriend = 40 levels

[sweet bolt]

what if you already have a girlfriend

do you need to re get the girlfriend or is it like a tracked progress thing

If so I'm level 40 but if not i can arrange something

[tulip jacinth]

Gotta re get one

[sweet bolt]

damn

[high mural]

Add fart breathing

[smoky jasper]

ban this guy😔 🥵

[kind spire]

Yes and add Must Breathing too

[viral rivet]

if you play roblox then sorry bruv no levels for any of us

[tulip jacinth]

The creeps still have a chance at getting a girlfriend on Roblox