Viaproxy-Geyser on modded 121.1 fabric server

[twilit fractal]

I read that you can't use fabric-geyser on 1.21.1 and that you need to use Viaproxy instead. What is Viaproxy and how do I set it up for my server?

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#support message

[twilit fractal]

Oh sry, missed that. By separate from the server, you dont mean that bedrock can't join my server right?

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by separate I just mean that its a separate program and not a plugin or anything like that

[twilit fractal]

Are there any downsides with this method compared to geyser-fabric?

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it's a bit less optimized, the faq below explains it the best

you might want to choose to run geyser on velocity since its faster, but its a bit less simple, but still not too complicated

I can help you with it in depth if you want

[twilit fractal]

I can use velocity for a fabric server?

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yeah

you need to use the fabricproxy-lite mod tho

I gtg for today, but you can message me anything now and I'll respond tmr

I'll probably also give you a quick guide to set it up

[twilit fractal]

Alr thx. I'll check it out and get back to you if I run in to any problems!

[twilit fractal]

The mods I use currently are only tectonic, terralith, nullscape and incendium + performance mods. Would I technically be able to pre load chunks with chunky and then copy the world file to a spigot/paper server and how big would the difference be without the optimization mods?

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I happened to be awake now so I'm responding, but I'd recommend not preloading chunks since it'll just make the world size bigger and a hassle to transfer. You can use the datapack versions of all the non-performance mods mentioned on spigot/paper and just put them in the datapacks folder which is located in your world folder. Just copy and paste your world from fabric to paper/spigot and it'll work (also don't skip on the datapack thing or you could get choppy chunk borders).

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Btw since your using spigot/paper, to setup geyser all you need to do is use the geyser plugin (and viaversion if you're on a older version, so below 1.21.5). You don't need viaproxy or velocity or anything like that.

[twilit fractal]

Unfortunately, tectonic only supports up to 1.21.4 as a data pack. I have tested it though, is it possible it might work for 1.21.5?

Just read that the tectonic creator plans on updating it this month

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well you can stick to 1.21.4 for now ig

btw, you don't you just use 1.21.5 fabric, you can use geyser's fabric version too

everything you mentioned supports it

and a few performance mods don't matter as they don't affect gameplay

[twilit fractal]

Well I have some client sided mods too. Btw, will 1.21.5 be incompatible for geyser fabric when 1.21.6 is released?

Sry for removing the message. Realised it only sends a notification when you reply

So @hasty pewter, the spigot/paper version is simply the best?

[hasty pewter]

Version compatibility-wise, probably

[twilit fractal]

Guess ill wait for the tectonic data pack 1.21.5 release then

[twilit fractal]

Will the difference be big without optimization mods? @last forum

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no, plus all the big ones like lithium, ferritecore, async, etc are supported

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You can use viafabric + viabackwards on your server so you can join with older versions.

so then you can use 1.21.5 on the server and join with 1.21.1

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yes, but there is a short period where 1.21.5 will still work after 1.21.6 is released. For example, it took a while for geyser to support 1.21.5 so you needed to use 1.21.4, and you can still use geyser's 1.21.4 version even tho it doesn't get updates for the version. But it can break on a bedrock update and won't get new fixes.

[twilit fractal]

Wow, didnt know that

[twilit fractal]

They are supported for the paper/spigot version?

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paper/spigot has optimisations built in, you don't need optimisations for them

the only type of optimisation that would be useful would be editing the configs, you can use this as a guide https://github.com/YouHaveTrouble/minecraft-optimization

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 7!

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btw, you should use purpur which is based on paper with extra features and optimisations. And spigot is completely irrelevant these days, paper and purpur are much better

anything for spigot or paper will work for purpur

ㅤ

Ik it's not related, but I think that you should try adding a mod or plugin that would affect gameplay to make your server unique. You might want to give this mod a try (https://modrinth.com/mod/cuteorigins), its for 1.21.4 only for now but the 1.21.4 geyser fabric version still works, or you could use the plugin alternative (https://modrinth.com/plugin/originspaper), there are also other stuff like Spellbound weapons, with is a mod/datapack so it would work on fabric or paper/purpur (datapacks work on all platforms). Also everything mentioned is geyser compatible! Spellbound has optional textures tho that you can convert to bedrock with Kastle's converter on 1.21.3 or below, and 1.21.4+ when it finally supports it, but dw its still optional.

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btw, don't get into the habit of adding to many things and maybe limit it to these two, since its easy to make a laggy server. Datapacks especially can cause lag, mods (excluding ones with a datapack version since they're just repackaged) and plugins are vastly more optimised. A few datapacks won't do much tho, just not like 15 or something.

[twilit fractal]

I find very hard to decide between the purpur- or fabric-geyser. Which one would you pick?

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I think it would be nice to not have to get forced to update my server when 1.21.6 is released in case some of the mods aren't updated yet. At the same time, it would be nice to play 1.21.5

[twilit fractal]

Saw now that purpur only supports up to 1.21.4. Maybe its worth using fabric then?

[hasty pewter]

Paper supports 1.21.5

[ebon coral]

Purpur also has 1.21.5 builds

[twilit fractal]

Only experimental builds right?

[hasty pewter]

Yes

[twilit fractal]

so which one do you think I should I use?

[ebon coral]

click the 1.21.4

[twilit fractal]

It works for 1.21.5?

[ebon coral]

There's a 1.21.5 version, it's experimental just like Paper however

[twilit fractal]

If we compare tectonic/terralith with geyser. Does anybody know how they compare in how fast they get updated after an update drops? @last forum

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Terralith seems to get updated faster than tectonic on average. Tectonic took 12 more days to update to 1.21.5 but I also remember terralith taking like a month or something to update to 1.21 from 1.20.x

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You only use a few terrain mod/datapacks as of now so I'd say purpur, but there some pros and cons so I'll list them out

Purpur/Paper/Spigot:
Pros:

• Don't need to worry about updating to the latest version
• Generally more support compared to fabric
  Cons:
• Complex redstone builds don't work and can break (most stuff will still work)

Fabric:
Pros:

• Full redstone support
  Cons:
• You only have a short period of time to update on a new release, or you have to start using a proxy

Conclusion: You should probably use Purpur, the only reason you'd want to use Fabric would be if you were to use some mods that are fabric-only.

like in my use case I use fabric since I use the origins mod I mentioned earlier, and the paper alternative is only up to 1.21.1

[twilit fractal]

Another con of purpur is that there is no stable version for 1.21.5 out yet. Idk how comfortable I am in using that

[twilit fractal]

So how do they compare to geyser?

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geyser usually takes about a week or less to update to a new version

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yeah, personally I would trust Paper's experimental builds more than Purpur. Definitely use Purpur when its stable tho

for now, fabric could be better since you can use 1.21.5

[twilit fractal]

How long would you guess it takes for paper or purpur to update?

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tectonic has a 1.21.5 mod too but not a datapack, so just use fabric now, but tbh since you don't use many mods (optimisation mods don't count), you could just use fabric and be fine with it

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 8!

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can't say

[twilit fractal]

Alr. Is it possible to switch without breaking anything?

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all the mods you use update pretty quickly too

Switch to purpur?

[twilit fractal]

Yeah from fabric

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yeah

but not 1.21.5 because tectonic doesn't have a 1.21.5 datapack

[twilit fractal]

Alr, thx so much for the help. Ill see if I can get it to work later today!

Yeah but it will probably be updated pretty soon

At least thats what the developer said

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ok

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just make sure you use the datapack versions of all the non-performance mods you use

[twilit fractal]

Alr. Thx!

[twilit fractal]

I read that the sylvie's origins mod is very buggy, have you played with it and is it still worth it?

Now I see that tectonic for 1.21.5 is incompatible with terralith. What do you think I should do? @last forum

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The only real downside to the Sylvie's origins mod is that the "phantom" origin is pretty broken on bedrock, and you need to have your own datapack for the orb of origin recipe, I'll give you mine

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it is if you use the mod, if you use the datapack then you have to use terratonic instead, forgot to mention that

[twilit fractal]

yeah but the tectonic 1.21.5 datapack hasnt released

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yeah, you have to use 1.21.4 then if you decide to use purpur

[twilit fractal]

well "mod" tectonic for 1.21.4 is compatible with terralith

only 1.21.5 that isnt

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here's the datapack and recipe, I just made it with misode's recipe datapack web creator thing, such give it a search if you want

[twilit fractal]

thx

so should I use purpur 1.21.4 or fabrqic 1.21.4?

oh yeah I cant

forgot about that

purpur it is then

also, one question. If I change from purpur to fabric or vice versa, what files do I need to delete in my server folder?

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You can use fabric 1.21.4 btw, geyser fabric's 1.21.4 version still works

just no updates

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it would just work if you just swapped out the server jars, you don't need to delete anything, although some fabric-only unused files would remain

[twilit fractal]

Oh alr, but purpur is recommended?

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yeah technically since it still gets updates

[twilit fractal]

But it doesnt hurt anything. And I would of need to remove the mods?

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It wouldn't matter if you removed them or not, they'd be unused and you can delete them

[twilit fractal]

Alr.

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the mod is compatible with terralith regardless of version , at least according to here

[twilit fractal]

Yeah but it you go into the 1.21.5 fabric (beta3.00 or smth) version it says its incompatible

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oh

[twilit fractal]

And my server crashed when I used them together

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ok

Do you intend to use the origins mod btw?

[twilit fractal]

Im still trying to decide. It makes some big changes

Plus, ill need to ask my friends about it

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there's also a cool geyser compatible waystones mod on fabric, idk if you want it. It's a good alternative to /home if you use that

[twilit fractal]

Oh Ill keep that in mind

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This btw https://modrinth.com/mod/sswaystones

[twilit fractal]

But no data pack?

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No

[twilit fractal]

Ok

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I use fabric for stuff like this, but it comes down to preferences about whether you want it or not

[twilit fractal]

Wow yeah this is insanely hard to decide

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plugins also exist btw

its not completely one sided

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probably ask your friends

or make a poll for them

[twilit fractal]

Any voice chat that is compatible?

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I think there was a plugin called geyservoice or something

https://modrinth.com/plugin/geyservoice

[twilit fractal]

Is there a mod alternative?

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I'll look for one

[ebon coral]

There's also SimpleVoiceChat, then you can use the Discord link bridge

[twilit fractal]

Wow you guys are life savers

[ebon coral]

however, this isn't very good for a public server

for a server with just friends, DiscordSVCBridge is just amazing

[twilit fractal]

There will be 20 at most

[ebon coral]

Bedrock players?

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was just about to say that lol

[ebon coral]

Because each bedrock player would need a discord bot along side it

[twilit fractal]

No. Probably about half

[ebon coral]

If you have the patience to setup 10 discord bots and then config them into the mod

[twilit fractal]

I think I prioritize voice chat over waystones

[twilit fractal]

I really dont know

Do the other people need to do anything

[ebon coral]

Keep in mind, for the SimpleVoiceChat mod to work you need it running on a different port then Geyser

[last forum]

btw the simple voice chat mod with discord integration works as a mod and plugin

[ebon coral]

To join prox chat they'd need to run a command each join and then join a discord vc

but that's it

[twilit fractal]

But if I use plugins, wouldnt it just be easier to use geyservoice?

This is very much to take in

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yeah, geyservoice seems easier to setup

its your choice about what you and your friends want

[ebon coral]

I'm hoping to look into better solutions myself tbf, voice chat and bedrock players is always gonna be hard

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[twilit fractal]

Lol

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idk what I said

[twilit fractal]

I believe you

[ebon coral]

you said d o n g instead of doing

[twilit fractal]

-_-

[ebon coral]

I'll resend with the correction

[twilit fractal]

xD

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lol

[ebon coral]

Doing another one of these cause why not.
Keep in mind that I'll be willing to assist you if you need help

Fabric:
Pros:

• Origins
• Waystones
  Cons:
• Somewhat difficult to setup proximity voice chat
• You might at some point need to use velocity if mods don't update

Purpur:
Pros:

• Relatively easy to setup proximity voice chat
• No need to worry about geyser
  Cons:
• You don't have the pros of fabric

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thanks

[ebon coral]

np

[twilit fractal]

Really appreciate it

How would this work for people on console or phone?

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looks like it wouldn't work on console then

[twilit fractal]

So simple voice chat it is then?

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Yeah, same process on fabric or pupur too

[twilit fractal]

So I tried now with fabric geyser 1.21.4 but it in the log it says you need to use 1.21.5

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did you use this version of geyser? https://modrinth.com/plugin/geyser/version/6CGF7CTR

it's the last version of geyser for 1.21.4 that I use

you can't just get it from the geyser website because that gives you the 1.21.5 version

btw since you're using fabric, you might worry about having to use a velocity/standalone proxy for geyser at point, but dw, you can have one for free 24/7 on minehut and I can help always

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

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Btw for that use these two mods:

• https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat/version/fabric-1.21.4-2.5.30
• https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat-discord-bridge/version/aDOGmnah

java players will install the simple voice chat mod, and bedrock players will join a discord voice channel after linking discord to Minecraft

technically java players could do the discord thing if they choose

[autumn gorge]

So you can get console version 1.21.72 bedrock to join a 1.21.1 Java server? Just curious cause I just joined and this was all I found

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yeah, with geyser on proxy on fabric or neoforge, and just by using viaversion on all other platforms (so spigot/paper/purpur)

[autumn gorge]

Is this the correct thread that explains how to do it? I’ve got geyser and via proxy installed on a fabric server but can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong that I can’t get it to work. Keeps saying on my console that I have an outdated geyser proxy

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That means you have to update geyser

[autumn gorge]

When I do then month tells me I need a Minecraft version 1.21.5 to be installed

Modrinth*

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what does modrinth have to do with this?

its about joining on bedrock

[autumn gorge]

Correct but when I stop the server and use the updated version of geyser it won’t start because the geyser version wants a different version of Minecraft

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Btw, we should do this in a seperate thread, you can just create one then I'll continue

[autumn gorge]

Ok no problem

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just go to #1038995448100306964 , click new post then enter a title and short message, or just ping me in the message box or something and click post

[twilit fractal]

But can't I just switch to purpur when everything is updated?

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You can but origins and waystones would stop working

also switch to the human race with the orb of origin before just in case

[twilit fractal]

So it wouldnt work even if I switched to this? https://modrinth.com/plugin/originspaper

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Waystones wouldn't work, but you might have to still go to the human origin before switching, then use the plugin's features for your origin to work

[twilit fractal]

Doesnt sound too hard

But maybe it is just easier going with purpur

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Yeah ig

[twilit fractal]

Are there data pack versions of yungs mods?

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no

[twilit fractal]

Crap

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setting up standalone is pretty easy, just saying

[twilit fractal]

And what would that mean

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Just create a "paper" server on minehut and delete all files, then download the geyser-standalone jar, run it, enter your ip in the config and copy the key.pem file from server to standalone and done

[twilit fractal]

Why minehut?

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Because its free and 24/7

you can choose something else

[twilit fractal]

Yeah but I have a Oracle cloud server rn

And its better in my experience

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So that would work too

[twilit fractal]

Nice

So what are the advantages of everything

Mainly standalone

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mainly comes down to purpur vs fabric, but you might need some extra work for fabric to work (talking about standalone)

[twilit fractal]

But why would I use standalone over just fabric geyser or purpur geyser?

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you only use standalone when geyser fabric doesn't work (like if your on 1.21.1 and it isn't updated to the latest bedrock version)

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so now use this

https://modrinth.com/plugin/geyser/version/6CGF7CTR

its for 1.21.4 and still works

[twilit fractal]

So if I play this for a while and all the players explore many of yungs structures. Then tectonic and terraluth gets compatible for 1.21.5 again and I update the server. Nothing would happen to the already explored yungs structures right?

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no, they'd stay

[twilit fractal]

Good. So when wouldnI need to use standalone geyser?

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and since it's only structures you don't have to worry about weird uneven chunk borders

[twilit fractal]

If 1.21.4 geyser breaks?

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yeah

[twilit fractal]

But hopefully tectonic and terralith is updated by then

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Yeah

[twilit fractal]

What are the chances of 1.21.5 geyser working with 1.21.6?

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Pretty high, since there's usually always a period of time where geyser needs time to update, so they just make 1.21.6 bedrock work with 1.21.5

[twilit fractal]

Good

But if it doesnt, I can switch to standalone

?

[last forum]

yeah

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I'm almost certain since there's going to be a ton of changes in 1.21.6

[twilit fractal]

Wait I dont think I understand. Wouldnt many changes mean that it wouldnt be compatible?

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By that I mean it would take time to update to the new version, meaning geyser would make 1.21.5 java geyser versions work with 1.21.6 bedrock versions while its getting updated to reduce downtime

and you'd use those 1.21.5 versions like how you'd use 1.21.4 versions

[twilit fractal]

And when it gets updated to 1.21.6, it would still work?

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yes, just like 1.21.4 now

[twilit fractal]

Great

Also, how do I get via version for fabric?

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Viafabric for 1.21.4: https://modrinth.com/mod/viafabric/version/0.4.17+102-main
Latest viaversion release: https://modrinth.com/plugin/viaversion/version/5.3.2

you need both btw

[twilit fractal]

Why would I need the plugin?

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Basically it updates the version of viaversion in viafabric, it also has the fabric platform listed

viafabric is like a compatibility layer sort of

[twilit fractal]

So I should place the plugin in the mod folder?

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yeah

[twilit fractal]

Alr. I read also that I need to do some changes in the geyser config to get floodgate to work but I cant find the config

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all configs are in the config folder

[twilit fractal]

I dont have a config folder?

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it should be in the same folder that has the mods folder

[twilit fractal]

Wait, im just gonna start my pc

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inside the config folder is the geyser folder, the actual config files are in there

btw you have to run the mod at

Least once

first

[twilit fractal]

Wait, I might no have started the server with geyser

I just have to change the geyser file

One sec

yeah I found it now

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nice

[twilit fractal]

so where is the auth type?

[twilit fractal]

oh found it. Should I change the "online" text to floodgate?

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yeah

[twilit fractal]

Have I missed somthing or added somewthing that shouldnt be there? (im waiting with adding waystone utnil Ive talked with my friends about it)

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all thats fine, but I'd recommend using ibo https://modrinth.com/datapack/ibo/versions, the datapack works on 1.21.4 but you'll also have to use incendium as a datapack too. It fixes the pretty bad lag caused by incendium by removing everything except its biomes

[twilit fractal]

alr will do

it isnt updated to 1.21.4

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it will still work, the creator of the mod mentioned that it works in a 1.21.4 feature request too

this btw https://codeberg.org/naomi/ibo/issues/2

[twilit fractal]

oh im sorry im stupid. I didnt read your first message enough

so I should download the data pack variant correct?

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Yes

datapack for both incendium and ibo

also do the /datapack disable "Incendium.zip" then /datapack enable "incendium.zip", it makes incendium load after ibo which is needed for it to work. And use tab autocomplete for "incendium.zip" its not actually called that, and restart after

[twilit fractal]

is this correct

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 6!

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yes

[twilit fractal]

And I should delete the mod incendium?

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yes

The mod is the same repackaged datapack anyway

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do this after first joining

[twilit fractal]

alr

it couldnt find "incendium.zip"

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Use tab to autocomplete it with the actual file name

[twilit fractal]

I do it from the terminal, thats okay right?

I dont have a 1.21.4 client prepared yet

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Yeah, you can do /datapack list to show the name

[twilit fractal]

I can copy the name of the file?

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Yeah, but I think you have to put file/(filename)

so file/ in front

[twilit fractal]

/datapack disable file/Incendium_1.21_UNSUPPORTED_PORT_v5.4.4.zip

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it'll show up after running this

[twilit fractal]

is that correct?

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Yes

[twilit fractal]

didnt work but Ill do what you said instead

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maybe without file/?

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 10!

[twilit fractal]

with ""?

[twilit fractal]

like you did here?

you used """

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maybe just do it in minecraft with autocomplete, I can't remember

also gtg for an hour, sorry

[twilit fractal]

yep, ill setup a instance

nw, you helped a ton!

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My class was delayed 25 min, so I can answer but here's the command /datapack disable "file/Incendium_1.21_UNSUPPORTED_PORT_v5.4.4.zip" then /datapack enable "file/Incendium_1.21_UNSUPPORTED_PORT_v5.4.4.zip"

[twilit fractal]

Yeah I think it worked now

THanks!

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np

[twilit fractal]

Can I switch origin later?

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with the orb of origin, yes

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datapack for the recipe is here if you forgot

[twilit fractal]

so I can just give myself one later and choose when the smp starts?

[twilit fractal]

yep I added it

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yeah

[twilit fractal]

I dont think this is right...

[last forum]

that's what happens when you remove a terrain mod/datapack or add one

with an existing world

[twilit fractal]

should I delete the worlds folder and restart?

Idk know what I did tho

[last forum]

yeah ig, if you want you can just delete the regions folder in the world folder which contains the blocks in a world

I thought it doesn't happen if you just update a terrain mod/datapack, but ig not?

[last forum]

worldedit also works ig

but manual still

gtg

[twilit fractal]

alr

Answer when you have time. The only thing left is voice chat right? Could you walk me through how to do that?

[twilit fractal]

Also, ive only port forwarded 25565, can I change the port to 25565 in the geyser config?

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are you not able to also port forward 19132?

[twilit fractal]

I can but it is just extra work if I can use 25565

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I guess you should be able to, since java uses tcp and bedrock uses udp

[twilit fractal]

alr, ill test

btw, are there any changes you recommend me changing in the settings?

Can I for example disable bedrock bridging?

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you can disable bedrock bridging but I wouldn't recommend it

[twilit fractal]

why?

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bedrock players would probably get mad, because they'd place a block and it'd just disappear, maybe recommend this to java players https://modrinth.com/mod/bridging-mod

that gives you bedrock bridging on java

[twilit fractal]

why would it disappear

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because geyser won't allow it

[twilit fractal]

huh?

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but bedrock thinks that should work, so it instantly deletes

[twilit fractal]

They cant bridge like in java?

[last forum]

they can, but you're nerfing bedrock, and all I'm saying is that they could get mad

[twilit fractal]

alr, ill talk to them

but are there any changes I should do?

[last forum]

enable above-bedrock-nether-building: if you want, but the caveat is that it makes all nether fog red

[twilit fractal]

red fog for both java and bedrock?

[last forum]

only bedrock

[twilit fractal]

is there a picture you could show me?

[last forum]

ok

This is just a random image

[twilit fractal]

isnt it always like that?

[last forum]

but like everything has that red fog in the nether, even stuff like warped biomes that are meant to be blue

[twilit fractal]

oh

I could change that later right?

[last forum]

yeah

[twilit fractal]

alr ill wait then.

[last forum]

it it shouldn't matter much, and it's hard to notice most of the time

[twilit fractal]

I guess ill enable it then

[last forum]

there's a extension for geyser called geyserextras that has a fix for it, but for some reason it doesn't work on fabric and neoforge, you'd have to use standalone for it to work

no point in saying that anyways

[twilit fractal]

yeah I wont do all that work just for some fog hehe

[last forum]

that's the only geyser extension I've seen that does that

[twilit fractal]

yeah its not that big of a deal

[last forum]

btw, you can check this out https://github.com/GeyserMC/GeyserExtensionList

emote menu is a good one

you can switch offhand and do other java stuff by emoting which opens a menu

If you have https://modrinth.com/datapack/dynamic-lights then torches light up in offhand for bedrock too

[twilit fractal]

on the server?

[last forum]

yeah

[last forum]

geyser extensions go in config > geyser-fabric > extensions

[twilit fractal]

data pack or mod?

[last forum]

any, its a repackaged datapack if you choose a mod so its the same thing

Also you should get this https://geysermc.org/download?project=other-projects&geyseroptionalpack=expanded it improves bedrock compatibility. Put it in config > geyser-fabric > packs

I'm talking about geyseroptionalpack btw

[twilit fractal]

where should I put EmoteMenu-1.1.0.jar

[last forum]

config > geyser-fabric > extensions

[twilit fractal]

there, I think ive done everything youve said now

[last forum]

including this?

[twilit fractal]

yeah

[last forum]

that's pretty much all there is to setup geyser

[twilit fractal]

Im gonna test the port for bedrock. After that, would you help me getting voice chat to work?

[last forum]

sure

[twilit fractal]

thx

one other question. Is it bad for a server to run 24/7?

and never be restarted?

[last forum]

apparently you can get memory leaks or something, but I've never experienced that

just restart every 3 days or something

[twilit fractal]

is there a code or smth that can do it or do I need to do it manually?

[last forum]

you can use a cronjob

actually I'm not exactly sure, just a sec

you can get pterodactyl panel if you want, but that could have a performance impact

it has a scheduling feature that would restart it

[twilit fractal]

I think ill do it manually if it affects performance

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 7!

[twilit fractal]

but thx

the port worked!

[last forum]

I actually have an idea

[last forum]

nice

[twilit fractal]

im listening

[last forum]

#!/usr/bin/env sh

while [ true ]; do
java -Xms4096M -Xmx4096M -jar server.jar nogui
echo Server restarting...
echo Press CTRL + C to stop.
done

[twilit fractal]

what does this do?

[last forum]

that restarts the server after it stops, so you can do /stop from minecraft manually, and it would restart without having to ssh into the server

[twilit fractal]

oh

yeah that would be nice

[twilit fractal]

but I really dont know how scripts work. WHat do I do with it?

[last forum]

just a sec

[twilit fractal]

why does this happen?

[last forum]

the trees?

[twilit fractal]

yeah?

is it a part of tectonic or bug?

[last forum]

I can't really tell

[last forum]

While in the server base directory (folder) do the following (to check run ls and it should show the mods folder, config folder, server jar, and the rest of the server files):

1. Right click the message with that I replied to then click copy text
2. Run: nano start.sh (creates the script file)
3. Paste the stuff you copied
4. replace the line java -Xms4096M -Xmx4096M -jar server.jar nogui with the command you use to start the server
5. Ctrl + O then "Enter" then Ctrl + X
6. Run chmod +x start.sh (this makes it executable)
7. Now just run screen -S server to start a "screen" and do ./start.sh to start the server. You can press Ctrl + A then D which will "detach the screen" and remove you from the server console and use screen -r server to go back to the server console. To stop the server and the script, run stop in server console, then it will tell to press Ctrl + C to stop it from auto-restarting.

[twilit fractal]

legend

[last forum]

np

[twilit fractal]

do I type Ctrl+C in the server directory or when the server is on

[last forum]

run that to stop the script when it's running

[twilit fractal]

and to enable it again I type ./start.sh?

[last forum]

yeah

[twilit fractal]

So I can do that from minecraft?

in game

[last forum]

I sort of realised an issue, when you ssh into the server, it opens a new session each time, so then you won't be able to stop the script if you aren't in the same session

[twilit fractal]

which means?

[last forum]

so you won't be able to stop it (easily), I might have a solution

[twilit fractal]

alr!

I deleted the regions folder again cause I wasnt happy with the world. The problem is that just the closest chunks to the spawn were changed. Can this have to do with distant horizons?

[last forum]

if you have distant horizons, the LOD might be outdated meaning that far chunks outside of your render distance are inaccurate and show the old chunks, is that what's happening?

[twilit fractal]

yeah maybe so

how do I fix that?

[last forum]

you can fix that by deleting the "Distant_Horizons_server_data" folder

or just the server inside that folder

for a specific one

[twilit fractal]

bro you have an answer to everything

[last forum]

I have experience ig lol

[twilit fractal]

you sure do

[last forum]

Btw, when you start the server in an ssh session, leave the session then ssh again. How do you stop the server?

[ebon coral]

450ish messages from this thread is wild tho, I just had to mention that lmao

[last forum]

yeah lol

[twilit fractal]

well the server is online but im not "connected" to the server inside putty

[twilit fractal]

man I need everything to be explained in monkey terms xD

brb

[last forum]

so do you just stop it in minecraft?

[twilit fractal]

I guess

I havet really used the command to run it 24/7 before

Only the one without "screen"

[last forum]

brb

[twilit fractal]

I tried /stop and the server stopped

In game I mean

[last forum]

are you familiar with the screen command? (linux)

[twilit fractal]

not before this no

[last forum]

Basically run screen -S server and do ./start.sh and you can press Ctrl + A then D which will "detach the screen" and remove you from the server console and use screen -r server to go back to the server console.

That fixes the issue, so you can always do Ctrl + C after stopping the server to end the script

[twilit fractal]

the server is on now but when I press Ctrl + C it just restarts

[last forum]

just run stop in console to stop the server, then it will give you a prompt to stop it from auto-restarting by pressing Ctrl + C

[twilit fractal]

when I press stop it restarts and when I press Ctrl + C when its in the process of starting it just starts the process over

[last forum]

do it before it starts again

like immediately

[twilit fractal]

nothing happens

[last forum]

do it twice maybe?

[twilit fractal]

it just says ^C in the middle of all the code

[last forum]

I'll test it myself, just a sec

[twilit fractal]

Yeah it might just be me

[last forum]

going back to the startup script, run nano start.sh, delete everything after the "ava -jar ..." line, then paste:

echo Server restarting in 10 seconds...
sleep 10
echo Press CTRL + C to stop.
done

that's a seperate message so you can right click and copy text

[twilit fractal]

I have to restart putty first right?

so im not in the server

[last forum]

did you do the screen thing btw?

[twilit fractal]

well the server is still running. No I didnt

should I restart putty

[last forum]

just run stop in console and spam Ctrl + C

that should work

if not, do Ctrl + Z

[twilit fractal]

none of them worked. Ill send a vid

[last forum]

ok

[twilit fractal]

video size limit

[last forum]

https://www.freeconvert.com/video-compressor

[twilit fractal]

thx

[last forum]

you can set a maximum file size limit too

in advanced options

[last forum]

that's pretty unusual

did you do Ctrl + Z

[twilit fractal]

the same happens with ctrl + z

[last forum]

Ctrl + C is supposed to end a process normally

it worked for me

[twilit fractal]

so I should do this in the server panel right

not restart putty and do it?

[last forum]

I don't think the script will work tbh, because it depends on Ctrl + C for it to stop

it usually works but idk why its not for you

maybe just restart the entire machine itself to stop the script

[twilit fractal]

from oracle cloud?

[last forum]

yeah

[twilit fractal]

you remember I didnt do this right?

[last forum]

yeah

so?

[twilit fractal]

no I just thought I might have missed something

so theres no way I can stop this script without ctrl + c?

[last forum]

at least not conveinent ways

[twilit fractal]

what about "Ctrl+\"

wait

what about "Ctrl+"

[last forum]

I didn't really try that

[twilit fractal]

I dont know how to do it on my keyboard layout though

[last forum]

This is what happens for me

it stops the server and script for me if I do it while the server's running

even without stop

[twilit fractal]

yeah I have no idea what to do

[last forum]

try this if you want in another putty session

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 11!

[last forum]

don't expect anything tho, it just gives a 10 second cooldown to run Ctrl + C when the server isn't running

sorry if this is getting annoying

[twilit fractal]

nonono, yes this is very annoying but without you it would be more than annoying

you dont have to apologize

[last forum]

btw did you do this or should we just move on to voice chat

[twilit fractal]

I dont see any "ava -jar..."

[last forum]

the command you use to just your server

starting with "java"

delete and replace everything after that

paste the stuff on the line after the command to start the server

[twilit fractal]

this is what it looks like

what am I supposed to delete?

[last forum]

so you sort of misinterpreted what I said, you see the line starting with "screen", just remove the "screen" part so that the line starts with "java"

[twilit fractal]

oh so that fixes everything?

[last forum]

Everything after and including "echo", then just paste the part on the same line where "echo" was

[last forum]

hopefully

[twilit fractal]

im sorry I know im stupid but after what?

should I delete anything

[last forum]

Delete the part I covered in red

[twilit fractal]

alr thank you xD

[last forum]

and replace with this

and Ctrl + O then Enter then Ctrl + X to save and quit

[twilit fractal]

now "./start.sh"

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 8!

[twilit fractal]

?

[last forum]

yeah

maybe send a screenshot of what you wrote first

nano start.sh to open the file

screenshot

then Ctrl + X to close

[last forum]

nice

that's correct

so ./start.sh and hopefully it works

[twilit fractal]

the server is running without me writing "./start.sh"

just not in my session

Should I still write ./start.sh?

[last forum]

then restart the oracle machine to get it to stop first

you can do sudo reboot

[twilit fractal]

so restart putty then sudo reboot?

[last forum]

no restart the actual machine that the server runs on in like the oracle web panel or something

ignore sudo reboot

[twilit fractal]

alr okay

[last forum]

once it's restarted, use putty and do:

1. screen -S server
2. ./start.sh

[twilit fractal]

Im in oracle cloud rn, theres a reboot button. It says it will take 15 minutes to reboot

does that sound right?

[last forum]

idk why its 15 minutes but maybe just wait ig

[twilit fractal]

should I tick the box?

[last forum]

yes

[twilit fractal]

is that risky?

[last forum]

it's kind of needed for the script to stop

[twilit fractal]

is it okay that I return in like 30 minutes? I kinda need to do smth but If you cant then ill stay

[last forum]

yeah its fine

[twilit fractal]

THX!!!

[twilit fractal]

Im back, sry for taking longer

so, the server is running

[last forum]

were you able to use Ctrl + C properly?

[twilit fractal]

it seems so yes

but without the screen before java, wont the server turn off when I close putty?

[last forum]

I just realised "sleep 10" was supposed to be after the second "echo" line, but it's purely a cosmetic thing

[twilit fractal]

under?

[last forum]

no, and use screen -r server to get back to console in a new putty session

[twilit fractal]

is sleep 10 supposed to be under the second echo line?

[last forum]

you only do screen before running ./start.sh like it says here

[last forum]

yeah

[last forum]

good, just Ctrl + O then Enter then Ctrl + X if you forgot

seems like you're familiar now

[twilit fractal]

more like less not having any clue what im doing

so now I should screen -S server?

[last forum]

-r instead of -S

to get back to console

[twilit fractal]

but the server isnt running

[last forum]

so do that once, then ./start.sh

Leave the console (screen) with Ctrl + A then D, and get back to it with screen -r server

[last forum]

to start the server

[twilit fractal]

just to test?

[last forum]

yeah

or ig we could do the vc thing

now

[twilit fractal]

no it says specify session name with -S

[last forum]

yeah, use screen -S server to start a screen session called server

[last forum]

we could leave it on if you want

[twilit fractal]

no, it might be good to test

[last forum]

ok sure then

[twilit fractal]

so I should put screen -S and then the server name?

[last forum]

yeah so screen -S server

if you want to call it server

[twilit fractal]

it doesnt matter what I call it?

[last forum]

yeah, you can call it anything

[twilit fractal]

and now ./start.sh?

[last forum]

Yes

[last forum]

but use the same name to recover it screen -r (screen name)

[twilit fractal]

alr!

so the server is running but I cant connect to it in minecraft?

[last forum]

that's weird, you could before tho. Can you send a screenshot of console and minecraft's disconnect message?

[twilit fractal]

I think ive had that before

[last forum]

can you try restarting Minecraft?

[twilit fractal]

im just gonna try smth that fixed it last time. Everytime I start the server, should I first put screen -S server?

[last forum]

if you already are in the screen, you don't have to do it again

[twilit fractal]

but its not on?

does it hurt doing it again?

[last forum]

no

[twilit fractal]

it worked!

[last forum]

nice

[twilit fractal]

If its not too much work id like a very easy to understand guide of all the commands I should know cause its so much to take in?

[last forum]

Yeah, sure

• screen -S (screen name): Starts a session that you can always leave and come back to.
• ./start.sh: Starts the script to start and auto-restart the server.
• Ctrl +C: Stops the script, run stop in console first to stop the server, then it'll tell you when to use Ctrl + C
• Ctrl + A then D: Use this to leave the screen.
• screen -r (screen name): Re-opens a screen that was already created

[twilit fractal]

thank you!

and Ctrl + C to stop script?

[last forum]

yeah

[twilit fractal]

so now, every time I need to restart the server I just type /stop in minecraft?

[last forum]

yeah

[twilit fractal]

great

thats everything right? Now voice chat?

[last forum]

are you able to join on bedrock?

[last forum]

yes

for voice chat, you need to port forward 24454 as udp

[twilit fractal]

alr one sec

[last forum]

You need these two mods, after adding them, do /stop to restart and generate configs:

• https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat/version/fabric-1.21.4-2.5.30
• https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat-discord-bridge/version/aDOGmnah

[twilit fractal]

does that look right?

[last forum]

just a sec

apparently port forwarding and ingress rules are for different purposes

This might help https://www.reddit.com/r/oraclecloud/comments/q2iv2h/eli5_how_to_forward_ports_on_oracle_cloud/

[twilit fractal]

huh, why did that work last time?

[last forum]

ingress rules?

[twilit fractal]

with 25565 I mean

yeah

[last forum]

it might work, try it out ig

[last forum]

I'm not fully sure about this

[last forum]

btw, why don't you do it with 19132 for geyser. Is there a limit to how many you can set?

[twilit fractal]

no I just thought it was more work?'

[last forum]

oh

btw on bedrock you'll have to set the port to 25565 then

[twilit fractal]

yup I know

alr so what do you think I should do rn?

[last forum]

did you do this?

[twilit fractal]

yeah but I havent port forwarded

cause I dont know where to do it

[last forum]

just do it like you did with 25565

[twilit fractal]

alr. Idk but I might have done some command in putty but I dont remember

alr and now?

[last forum]

so you port forwarded it?

[twilit fractal]

I added an ingress rule for both tcp and udp. After that I might have done somthing else

the thing is I mostly copied commands from a tutorial

[last forum]

ok, thats fine, tcp was unnecessary but it won't mess with anything

[twilit fractal]

no I know, I just said I did that with 25565

not the 24454 or smth like that

[last forum]

sorry for responding late, but you did or didn't port forward 24454 as udp?

[twilit fractal]

I did but not as tcp

[last forum]

ok good

There isn't any setup for simple voice chat apart from the port, but for the discord bridge, you have to follow the guide on the mod page below, ask for help if you need anything https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat-discord-bridge

If you want I could record myself doing so you could copy, but I'd have to do it tmr

[twilit fractal]

ill try but if I cant get it to work it would be very much appreciated

[last forum]

ok

good luck

[twilit fractal]

thx!

[twilit fractal]

Is it possible for a ps4 client to join @last forum?

[last forum]

yes

this is the github page that was linked https://github.com/Pugmatt/BedrockConnect

[twilit fractal]

do I need to do anything?

[last forum]

no, only the person using ps4

[twilit fractal]

alr!

[foggy crag]

Level Up!

You leveled up to level 9!

[twilit fractal]

And about the voice chat. I came nowhere so ill wait til tomorrow

[last forum]

ok, that's fine

[last forum]

you can choose another method which makes it harder for you and easier for them, basically they have to add a friend and can join it to join the server, here https://github.com/MCXboxBroadcast/Broadcaster

[twilit fractal]

Another question. Even when I delete the region folder, the world doesnt change. Can this have to do with chunky?

[twilit fractal]

Ill check it out

[last forum]

deleting the region folder only resets terrain, but the seed will stay the same unless you delete the level.dat and level.dat_old files as well

[twilit fractal]

oh

[last forum]

or you can set a custom seed in server.properties then delete those files if you want

the new level.dat files will have the seed in server.properties if you set one

[twilit fractal]

which method is better?

and where do I find the level.dat files?

[last forum]

they're in the world folder

[twilit fractal]

oh

found them

[last forum]

its one method, you can set a custom seed and not a random one if you choose

[twilit fractal]

alr

[last forum]

when you said method, were you talking about the ps4 thing?

[last forum]

btw I recommend that you just make an extra Microsoft account for this and not your main if you use this method.

but also the extension seems to have some bugs

[twilit fractal]

No I was talking about the world but I misunderstood it

[twilit fractal]

Hopefully the ps4 client will get it work without it

[last forum]

maybe just use this method, well I mean the other person has to do it

[last forum]

Here's the video to setup voice chat, I did it slow in the video so that you can copy easily, but if you do it fast, you can have like 20 bots made pretty quickly
https://youtu.be/9WV_R2cy-so

[twilit fractal]

Thank you!

[last forum]

np

sorry for bad quality, youtube does not play well with my screen resolution, and it's way too big for discord

[twilit fractal]

Np

[last forum]

These are the commands that you use for the discord voice chat

taken from the mod page

[twilit fractal]

Hello again, how is it supposed to look when its rendering? The progressbar shows up but I dont see any chunks updating and xaeros world map doesnt change. Is that how it should be?

@last forum

[last forum]

You're talking about chunky right? Also the right term is generating, the server generates chunks, the player renders them. Xaero's world map will only show the newly generated chunks once you explore them and they get rendered, and you won't see chunks updating because the chunks in your render distance already generate and get rendered. And the chunks generated by chunky would be outside of your render distance, so you wouldn't see them.

Also you can have Distant Horizons on the server (and client, which is the player) if you want to see chunks outside of your render distance without exploring them first. There might be lag tho if you have DH installed on the server.

[twilit fractal]

Wow, thx for the info. Ill be testing tomorrow. The server is great by the way! Im really thankful for allt the help!

[last forum]

That's great to hear!

[twilit fractal]

Are there any risks in using distant horizons on your server like corrupted worlds for example?

[last forum]

No

[twilit fractal]

The bedrock players had the right skin at first, but then it changed and is different every time they join. You know why? @last forum

[last forum]

That's weird, floodgate should be managing all skins, it could be because of a mod you might have installed like skinsrestorer or other skin mods, but if it's not that then I'm not sure.

[twilit fractal]

@last forum

[last forum]

Those all seem fine, the only thing I could suggest is updating floodgate if it's not already on the latest release. (latest version: https://modrinth.com/mod/floodgate/version/2.2.4-b44)

Maybe asking for help in #support could help if that doesn't fix it

[twilit fractal]

alr, ill try!

[last forum]

I dm'd you this too, but since you didn't respond and it's been a while I'll say it here too.

The version of Geyser-Fabric for 1.21.4 no longer works after the new 1.21.80 bedrock update. Geyser-Standalone works, but you can also use this.

I backported bedrock 1.21.80 support to geyser fabric 1.21.4, its unofficial, but you can use it if you wish https://github.com/virtualspan/Geyser-Fabric-NeoForge-1.21.4-Backport

[twilit fractal]

I don't have a clue why I haven't got no notification. Man youre a legend, I'll try the backported version as soon as I can!

[last forum]

ok, np

[last forum]

There's a new release now, and it has Vibrant Visuals support!
https://github.com/virtualspan/Geyser-Fabric-NeoForge-1.21.4-Backport/releases/tag/commit-503087a

[twilit fractal]

So this would work like fabric_geyser I had before?

[last forum]

yeah

[last forum]

its just a backported version of geyser-fabric, so you can put it in the mods folder

[twilit fractal]

Alr!

[last forum]

btw if it wasn't clear, you should also delete the old geyser-fabric mod, and replace it with the backported one

@twilit fractal

[twilit fractal]

Yes okay

[thorny quiver]

Hey how did you do this?

[last forum]

Install these two:

• https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat/
• https://modrinth.com/plugin/simple-voice-chat-discord-bridge/

Then for voice chat, you need to port forward/allocate 24454 (as udp if there's an option)

Then restart.
And just copy what I did in the video
https://youtu.be/9WV_R2cy-so

Btw here are the commands for the mod

but you could just use /dvc start to use most of the functionality, so it's not that complicated

[last forum]

@twilit fractal Just in case you didn't get a notification like last time, I replied to your DM