Hawaii map is not bad.

[kindred sapphire]

I hear a lot of resentment about this map, please explain why

[frosty sun]

Way to big, way to big safezone, for lots of alliances unfair matchmaking. No fights

[honest elm]

forced to 1v1 for a week

[last mortar]

if next to you are allies, no fighting for weeks until final zone

[spring quartz]

U r tarded

[kindred sapphire]

Lmao, maybe not need to make coalitions from start?

[kindred sapphire]

That's problems of all C4 :/

[frosty sun]

Yoy clearly havent playef other C4s

[unkempt pumice]

It’s a c4 for farmer

[calm lance]

First big L take

We literally can't fight in it bro

[kindred sapphire]

Water is not fight area?

[tribal delta]

1. 1st day you just build and cant leave safe zone - only that 1h fight on Lava Processing Plant
2. Incredibly hard to make coalition, only one option gives you some fights
3. Matchmaking is still shit, so instead of being able to help your ally who might be way weaker or less active you have to watch them being safe zoned till like middle open

I can find even more but thats first things that come to my mind 😛

[late vapor]

It’s not even forced, there’s nothing to fight for

[late vapor]

You didn’t play last C4 ? Did you just download the game ?

[kindred sapphire]

When you hear about fair matchmaking?

[late vapor]

“Way too big”, “way to big safezone”. Yet you choose to respond to matchmaking

And yes map mechanics makes it more unfair for victims of unfair matchmaking

[kindred sapphire]

Bro all map have the same size.....

[late vapor]

Which game have you been playing

[kindred sapphire]

Big safezone!? What problem in that

[late vapor]

Half of the fat map is sz

[kindred sapphire]

And? That not a problem

[late vapor]

You really think Vancouver and Aegean Sea are the same size

I don’t even know why I’m arguing with you

It takes like 6 hours to get to the other side of Vancouver

[kindred sapphire]

Well, for impatient people, the first day without fighting may be a problem.
However, the issue of fighting due to the coalition can be resolved by simply organizing friendly fights

[late vapor]

You think it’s fun when you spend half of your driving time to get out of sz? Or when the sz opens and it takes 2 more days of constantly running out of resources to get to enemy settlement ?

[late vapor]

If all the fights in warpath was friendly, this game would have 0 players

[kindred sapphire]

Or just don't make a coalition from day 0

[late vapor]

Doesn’t matter, there’s nothing to fight for

[tribal delta]

you join C4 to make friendly fights?

[kindred sapphire]

Im always fight vc all :^ , so i don't have "no enemies" problem

[honest elm]

just 1v7 every c4

noted

[late vapor]

Also 4v4 isn’t fun if it’s just 1v1 x4

[kindred sapphire]

I don't see "peace" word in "Warpath" :^

[tribal delta]

Also its not even about impatient people THE GAME force you to make 1k kills every day 😉

[late vapor]

THIS

And some people won’t leave sz

Because there’s nothing to fight for

[kindred sapphire]

No one force any, it's buff for active players

[late vapor]

It’s not a buff for active players if your enemy has to be active for you to get it

[kindred sapphire]

Who want - will find how.

[tribal delta]

BRUHHH

[kindred sapphire]

Kill trade or raigebait or fair battle. Doesn't matter

[late vapor]

Action can’t be everywhere at every time, unless it’s epic. I’ve been active since yesterday and still didn’t complete both

[honest elm]

very healthy map when you literally have to insult someone's mom to play the game

[kindred sapphire]

Your problem. i did 8k kills alr

[honest elm]

congrats, but it doesnt make the map good

[kindred sapphire]

Drama is part of game.

[honest elm]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

let's say I internally insult mothers of people who think there's nothing wrong with Hawaii map

[late vapor]

What do you support? Friendly fights, Drama or Being a douchebag

[kindred sapphire]

no 1 say it

[tribal delta]

Lilith WE DONT WANT PEOPLE TO TRADE KILLS WE MAKE SYSTEM TO WATCH IT AND STOP IT
also lilith - lets make a map where you have to do 1k kills every day BUT on first day lets open Lava Processing Plant for 1h, so if someone wants to make kills in the fair way they have to be active at that time or they miss reward

[kindred sapphire]

Who needs to choose? EVERYTHING AT ONCE

[honest elm]

https://tenor.com/view/tug-of-war-corgi-dog-lazy-lazy-dog-gif-12698939

you trying to reason with that guy

[late vapor]

I’m tired bro

[honest elm]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-16875499

[late vapor]

Only person I’ve seen that likes Hawaii

[tribal delta]

can't wait for dev-talk about Hawaii

[late vapor]

They won’t

[tribal delta]

after all this spam in suggestions i belive they already know how much they fucked up

[late vapor]

What players are saying about dev

[kindred sapphire]

@honest elm You didn't even write anything reasonable

[honest elm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

you can't ragebait me

[late vapor]

That’s kinda his point, he doesn’t want to reason with anyone. It’s either you understand or you don’t

[honest elm]

I work with people daily

I'm an oasis of peace

[frosty sun]

Did bro really say 50% map = sz is not a problem?

Okay what if 100% of map is sz

Or 99%

So ypu can only send 1 base. Out at a time

[kindred sapphire]

The fact is that even then, I'll be enjoying it, and you'll be complaining :^

[frosty sun]

Farmer

[kindred sapphire]

Haha,nice joke

[tribal delta]

this is called masochismmmm

[honest elm]

https://tenor.com/view/whip-discipline-gif-43719466044856222

[halcyon glade]

why tf does this even exist as a discussion map was poorly designed fist 24 hours only leads to actual farmpath simulator then once zone opens its just a 1v1 at that point most of the sides win half the time sits gae cant get 2v1 or 2v2 till wayy into toc its the slowest map for pvp you basically have to get lucky and have a decent opponents who actually is down to fight and not be pure turtles

[spring quartz]

Tarded

[honest elm]

just ragebait your allies and go 1v7

you vclearly cant play the game

[halcyon glade]

sir thats friendly fire

[honest elm]

fire is a force of nature, it's neither friendly or unfriendly

[halcyon glade]

[agile radish]

Proccesing plant opening every 3 days is weird

Should be 1 day atleast

[kindred sapphire]

The first day is Friday, which is a working day for most people. So there are only 2-hour fights even is good

[frosty sun]

People want to fight when they are finished with work. So what are you saying?

[kindred sapphire]

The fact that the opponents don't fight and quickly surrender is a problem for all C4s. (Say hello to matchmaking)

[frosty sun]

If you wasnt locked in safezone for a whole day and then with 1 enemy for 2 more weeks, that problem wouldnt occur that fast. So ur just making bs excuses for a shit map

[kindred sapphire]

What's the difference? The enemy will surrender either way

They's just going to surrender now and have a chance to comeback in 2-3 weeks, when in a regular C4, they'll surrender immediately after 2-3 try

[narrow heart]

If we wanted to play Whiteout Survival with limited PVP, we wouldn’t be here. Hawaii is a travesty and needs major rework.

[unkempt pumice]

How can anyone find arguments to say that Hawai is a good map

[kindred sapphire]

In the end, no one could come up with an argument why it was bad :/

The only thing all say is
" uhhh they didn't let us fight on the first day" and finish C4 in 3 days like usual

[unkempt pumice]

Tbh , I don't have much experience but

Hawai suck cuz

• The safe zone is larger than Asia.
• The PvP zones have been closed for 30 years and only reopen for 2 seconds.
• On the first day, it's impossible to fight.
• If you have allies nearby, you won't be able to fight for 400 millennia.
• The game tells you that you need to get 1k kills per day, but you can't fight during the first week(s)

Why is Hawaii good?

All I remember about Hawaii is that I can only watch fights without being able to participate

[kindred sapphire]

Perhaps only the combat zones that open once every 3 days and simultaneously are really bad

The rest have little effect on any or it can be decided by the players themselves

[unkempt pumice]

The game is called Warpath, not Buildpath or Farmpath

If we play this game, it's to fight

[spring quartz]

This guy might be a part of the dev group who made the map no way anyone else this dumb

[frosty sun]

"No argumetns"🥀

[crisp siren]

This map is trash and the absolute worst on par with cairo. Why keep making maps where you cant go out of your zone for 2 weeks. Then u have these useless farmer alliance who come to c4 just to avoid fights. Please make new c4 for these alliance where they can compete over who is the best farmer and loser + bring back moscow and stop with this sht design

[dim olive]

Bro this map ain’t even close to on par with cario

It’s way worse lmao

[crisp siren]

exactly

[distant halo]

They listened to complaints about turtles being too strong for months, but the only real fix is adding two safe zones with a fighting zone between them, like in Hegemony. Without that, alliances will just burn each other’s bases while units are stuck capturing.

The event opening at 2 AM for most EU players makes things worse — you either lose sleep for a maybe fight to reach 25k, or wait for the middle zone to open, and kill trading is banned anyway.

Support says they’re active from 2–14 UTC, but while that works for some time zones, for others it’s just baloney — people are asleep.

I don’t blame you, but this officer swap event turned out very differently from what was promised, and people are frustrated. It might even hurt activity and make ToC feel more boring.