how do i get a apocalypse striker in low isk

[harsh jolt]

.

[candid dome]

T10 ship... afaik you are not T10 so you can't use it

looonnnggggg way off

[harsh jolt]

oh

[harsh jolt]

are tornados and megathorn in t10 too ?

[candid dome]

you can't train into battleships and large weapons until T8, and you have to be Omega, Large weapons start at T8 and normal battleships start at T9

[harsh jolt]

bruh

[jolly mural]

Oracle is a nice lower tier option for lower tier pilots

[candid dome]

he is T5

[frosty escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[sterile ferry]

Sounds like Omen for him than

Than harbinger

Oracle

Apoc

[harsh jolt]

omen ?

[jolly mural]

Omen is a Cruiser

Harbinger is a BattleCruiser, so is the Oracle. You're gonna spend a quite a bit of time in that Oracle too so I suggest actually skilling a bit into B Cruisers. Maybe 4/4/0

@harsh jolt

[sterile ferry]

5/4 should be suitable

5/4 Cruiser and Battlecruiser also comes in Handy for PvP Later

[harsh jolt]

okay thanks

[harsh jolt]

🙂

@sterile ferry @frosty escarp can i ask u guys something ?

where do i get the deliveries section ?

[sterile ferry]

never used deliveries 😄

[frosty escarp]

Just forget that part of the game exists. It's a dead end.

[harsh jolt]

..

[frosty escarp]

Do yourself a favour

[harsh jolt]

hm tell

[frosty escarp]

I have

Move on. Forget deliveries.

[harsh jolt]

how do i get more isk then ?

[frosty escarp]

1. Get a t5 cov ops frigate
2. Go to "Clarelam"
3. Tell people you are new and ask them if you can loot theirr laboratories.
4. Loot their laboratories

[harsh jolt]

..

is that true

[frosty escarp]

Probably can make 1bil a day

[harsh jolt]

wowowwowowow

[frosty escarp]

Make enough to buy scanner so you can scan tle laboratories without asking.

scan warp cloaked wait for pirates to be dead. loot boxes loot wrecks (optional)

Now enough of this in your apocalypse thread.

[harsh jolt]

u can say

i dont mind it

[harsh jolt]

i am in clarelam then what to do ?

[thorn valve]

Ask for lab wrecks in local , warp in while cloaked and wait until no more rats

[frosty escarp]

loot the boxes first

and everything later

buy red scanner once you get enough ISK

and scan ships warp at 100km

and loot if it's a laboratory if not scan next

[sterile ferry]

yeah its true

[harsh jolt]

will the people let me take everything

[harsh jolt]

how much far away is it from jita ?

[silver otter]

Make sure you have a cov ops cloak though. Not the other cloak

[sterile ferry]

i only take the one box im spawning at

like most people

sometimes i bring my own noctis alt

xD

[harsh jolt]

i dont have a cov ops

[silver otter]

That's the whole point. Get a t5 cov ops frig. You need a cov ops cloak so you can warp cloaked. The other one breaks cloak once you warp.

[harsh jolt]

uh cant i go uncloaked

like with a cormorant

[silver otter]

The moment you land, rats could potentially target you without a cov ops cloak. If you accidentally "warp to 0km" you'll pretty much lose your ship.

You'll probably panic, and because you're new you'll probably use your mwd because it goes faster... But your sig radius will bloom and you'll take wrecking hits.

There is a reason the first step in mia do's instructions was to get a cov ops frigate.

I'm only adding that you make sure the cloak you get is cov ops, not a regular one.

[sterile ferry]

alpha or omega?

[harsh jolt]

alpha

[sterile ferry]

ah ok

thats bad

[harsh jolt]

why ?

[sterile ferry]

cant send you stuff

[harsh jolt]

u can sell it in the market for 1 isk then i will buy em

[silver otter]

But they have to get to the same station as you.

[harsh jolt]

yes

[silver otter]

And you have to check that there is no existing buy orders

That's a big ask of someone though. Clarelam is 20j from jita.

And most veterans are likely in null, which makes it even farther

[sterile ferry]

i wasnt in null since we lost our sov and claimed it back

let me send a ship there

imicus cov ops + cov ops cloak + red scanner + fuel for the scanner

[harsh jolt]

is clarelam in high sec ?

[sterile ferry]

yes

[harsh jolt]

then its very easy to go there

[sterile ferry]

me and many veterans do there 100% afk save isk farming

[harsh jolt]

is it easy to loot people there ?

[sterile ferry]

most people dont loot wrecks at all

i have a salvager on my 6 cyan seas

[harsh jolt]

whatatatattatat

[sterile ferry]

but it only has 17,5km range

so i just loot everything in 17,5

BS and Carrier are Slow AF

takes ages to fly to the boxes

not worth

[harsh jolt]

hmmmmm

[harsh jolt]

why do people die there ?

[harsh jolt]

u all sound sus

[sterile ferry]

most people in clarelam die cause they fall asleep with bad fittings

[sterile ferry]

that is the right mindset in eve

[harsh jolt]

lol

[harsh jolt]

why do they die ?

how and why

[sterile ferry]

you will not loot players

just the npcs they kill

xD

[harsh jolt]

what are npcs ?

[sterile ferry]

non player characters lol

[silver otter]

Non-player characters. The pirates that we shoot (aka: rats - piRATes)

[harsh jolt]

oh okay okay

hahahahha so funny

ima go there rn

but 20 jumps how do i get there fast ?

like in 10 minutes

[sterile ferry]

be happy you dont use a freighter

my freighter needs like 40 minutes xD

[harsh jolt]

i use a cormorant

or i can get there through a ammar frig

[sterile ferry]

im bringing a covert ops frig and a cov ops cloak now to clarelam for you

but it feels like you should play some more news missions in your cormarant first 😄

[harsh jolt]

can i bring a frigate ?

[harsh jolt]

hm why ?

[sterile ferry]

to get a better feel for the game 😄

if you dont know what npcs are seems like your new to gaming at all 😄

[harsh jolt]

those robot ships

which i have killed like 100 times

btw does clarelam has high level npcs

@sterile ferry

[sterile ferry]

you can spawn newsmission up to level 10 in clarelam

[harsh jolt]

i will die there then

cuz i am t5

[sterile ferry]

"up to"

[harsh jolt]

what are chances of me dying there ?

[sterile ferry]

if you do missions or your level in a cormarant?

depends on your pilot skill

😄

if you loot other peoples anoms which they dont loot you just dont decloak till all npcs are dead

[harsh jolt]

um why ?

[sterile ferry]

npcs are most likly t10 and will kill you so just stay cloaked

[harsh jolt]

how do i get a cloak ?

[sterile ferry]

i will give you one

[harsh jolt]

hm correct

[harsh jolt]

how ?

i am alpha

[sterile ferry]

dm

[harsh jolt]

fr

[frosty escarp]

@harsh jolt you not there to kill any ships. just warp at 100km cloak up as you land (can be normal cloak). once everything dead uncloak mwd and loot

learn to use scanner later and bookmarks

[harsh jolt]

how do i warp at 100km as ex eo player i forgot

[frosty escarp]

but till than just ask people nicely for loot. maybe someone makes you a fleet and gives you the stuff as they go

[harsh jolt]

if it a high tear player

i ask please

[frosty escarp]

read what people saying carefuly and give it a go is good advice. but i can't walk you through how you warp. do some homework.

[harsh jolt]

thanks brother

[harsh jolt]

or should i say sister

🤔

[harsh jolt]

@frosty escarp thanks for the homework 🙂 i got it

[silver otter]

@harsh jolt of all the advice given, this is the most important one.

At some point though, you have to play the game and figure things out. I still recommend checking some benzie videos out and doing the tutorial.

[harsh jolt]

i already know

now

[sterile ferry]

Never use a benzie fit

But some informations are usefull

[silver otter]

He's too new to afford a benzie fit. That's why I didn't bother mentioning that.

[sterile ferry]

Best explanation I ever heard of benzie why MWD is better than ab cause he wants to go fast

[silver otter]

To be fair, of all the reasons... That's the only valid reason. Lol

[sterile ferry]

We ignore the cap penalty or the sig penalty

MWD > ab cause faster

[silver otter]

"I use an mwd because I want my sig radius to bloom like the nearby star."

Said no one ever.

[sterile ferry]

For PvE you need no prop mod anyways cD

[silver otter]

If you're loot scooping, you do. Lol

No way I'm slow boating to loot.

[sterile ferry]

Lol maybe I'm just at some high level of decadence but a) use an alt to loot or b) use a noctis to loot

Or c) combine a/b

[silver otter]

I don't play much anymore, your situation is pretty standard for most. I had an alt to loot scoop during my most active time, but that was pre-noctis.

[candid dome]

[frank timber]

1 bil? what the hell have i been doing?

[harsh jolt]

i have already

..

[frank timber]

whats benzie fit

still probably cheaper than virtual fot tbh. sometimes he got b type hardener and almost always integration for tanks

[harsh jolt]

have u guys ever tried listening to star wars song while warping

[harsh jolt]

dead