Hellenism

[brave ridge]

They could be either, similar to folk tales, it is a very easy way of teaching lessons if you choose to derive one from it.

Hermaphroditus imo is a story of being careful what you wish for- but it's also pretty lesson-less. The (i forget her name LMAO sorry) lady basically harassed the poor guy when he didn't like her like that. When she got ahold of him bathing in her lake she wished they'd never be separated- as (again imo) an act of both pity and mockery, the gods fused them together.

[ornate tree]

it honestly could just be a story to explain what intersex means in the context of that religion

the word intersex probably didn't exist in that sort of framework alongside what fish said!

(aka festive basket)

[brave ridge]

yea yea oli (christmas kermit)

[zealous jungle]

when it comes to the deities epithets, do i have to write all of them down? i want to write the ones specifically characterized for Lord Apollon but there’s a lot of them

[ornate tree]

tbh its up to you
i would write down the ones your interested in. there are a lot for the deities and you can even create your own but epithets so the number chages

changes

[zealous jungle]

ahh okay! thank you smm

[wooden echo]

I made altars for Lady Aphrodite, Lord Zeus, Lord Apollon, and Lady Artemis! i spend hours making and painting them and i love how they turned out! (i got permission to post the pictures)

[spring epoch]

WHATT THEYRE SO PRETTY

[wooden echo]

TYYY

[spring epoch]

I’m in love with the sword and crown and clouds😭😭🫶🫶

[spring epoch]

Kinda small but I just talked to Apollo after taking a break for a while and we did the keyboard divination and he said I love you😭

[pallid idol]

Im honestly a little scared to talk to apollo, i have an altar for him in my closet but idk when i should reach out or how for the first time, i wrote in a journal i keep in his altar but idk im super new at this i just felt really strong vibes to set up an altar for him

[spring epoch]

I honestly just kinda use my pendulum to check he’s there and then i ask if he’s in the mood to talk im not really good at being super formal

[pallid idol]

Ive been getting signs of him being around, and i feel like im bein kinda watched so im wondering if thats him or not lol, but the book ive started writing to him in feels like theres an aura around it now, like its meant to be apart of that altar now. Im planing on getting a pendulum and tarot cards but i gotta wait till i get paid 🙂

[ornate tree]

you can also make a pendulum yourself if you dont have the funds for on atm

pendulums are an object where when you hold one end the other end swings freely

so a necklace, shoe string, chain, yarn etc and if it needs a weight a ring or paperclip work finr

fine

[spring epoch]

I saw someone use one of those dangly earrings

[pallid idol]

Ooo okay so maybe ill try that!

[vagrant seal]

Would someone be able to explain what Hellenism is to a newbie?

[cedar radish]

hellenism is basically just worship of the greek deities !

[vagrant seal]

Oh, thank you! I didn’t even know that there was a word for it, I kind of just have been obsessed without a label 🙈

[pallid idol]

Lol i used to practice it when i was younger without knowing the word for it

[vagrant seal]

I used to go to a pagan church with my mom growing up, but I don’t remember very much.. trying to slowly get there again!

[pallid idol]

I dont think apollo likes my candle, its not in his altar but i lit it and the flame went down so fast

[spring epoch]

Maybe it’s the candle brand?? Or you can even just ask lol

[pallid idol]

Lmao maybe

[slow pendant]

Theres a lot of mundane reasons why a candle can go down or up like wind, air circulation in the room it is in, wick height, space in the glass/candle holder, etc... you can always do divination to check in but I find that the gods typically appreciate anything we give them

[pallid idol]

Oh ya i agree, i plan on seeing if he would like to talk later tonight and tell me if he likes the candle or not

It just seemed really weird for where it was for the candle to be acting that way

[novel fiber]

hello yall, i know hellenism is a reciprocal type of religion from all the sources ive read and etc etc, but im not able to bury my offerings or like . burn my food offerings so,, what do i do? do i like? eat the food offerings after a while? throw it?

[spring epoch]

I’m pretty sure it’s up to you. I bury mine, if they’re sealed i eat them

[novel fiber]

tysm ^^

[zealous jungle]

i’m so interested in worshiping Circe i was thinking of offering her protection spell jars 😣

[ornate tree]

ooo

[spring epoch]

Omg i have these pig cards that i really want to give to her once I set up her space

[zealous jungle]

ouu that sounds like such a good offering

[ornate tree]

omg a lil pig plush 🥺

wait I should make a Circe offering thing

[zealous jungle]

yess!

[spring epoch]

Yes omg that’d be so cute

I love Circe sm😭😭 i need more space in my room

[zealous jungle]

Circe was so interesting to learn abouttt!! i’ve begun to really like her

[twin dove]

Tentatively posting my small altar for posiedon.. any thoughts? (Im new to this, so pls be nice )

[zealous jungle]

it’s so lovelyy!! i like it

and the jewelry is a nice touch it’s pretty

[twin dove]

Ty!!

You cant see it well from this angle, but ive got a couple of earrings behind the candle- one with some little shells on it and anothers thats an anchor

[zealous jungle]

oh that sounds like such a good offering 😣 i’m sure Poseidon will love it :D

[twin dove]

[zealous jungle]

i desperately need to my clear out my room to make space for my altars

i’m just worried that the space i have planned doesn’t disrespect them D: theyll be on top of one another

[ornate tree]

tbh so long as you communicate with them, gods understand having limited or no space

all my altars are on shelves and some even share shelf space bc I live in a single bedroom and don't have money or space for extra shelving rn

[zealous jungle]

yeahh i wanted to reach out to them quickly about the shelving situation but i haven’t built a steady relationship with the ones i’ll be giving offerings to on that shelf

[ornate tree]

yeah idk I don't think gods hold what you can't control against you and if one of those things happens to be your space situation you can't really do much on that

I don't know that they would find it disrespectful as it's not something I've seen happen with anyone I've seen in practice

hell some people only have a singular shared altar that all their deities offerings go on instead of individual ones

and I feel like something like that would be more akin to what was done traditionally simply because people in ancient Greece didn't really worship singular gods at a time they worship the entire Pantheon

ofc if you want individual ones that's fine.

but the modern pagan concept of singular deity worship tends to ignore that Pantheons were a part of a community, not an individualized type of thing

[zealous jungle]

yeahh makes sense. i’m a little worried that i won’t get much of response back when i reach out and ask them but i’ll give it a try nonetheless

i think the lack of a proper response is more on my part since i lack a proper divination tool 😣

or more so, i have a lack of bonding to my divination tool

[ornate tree]

and that comes with time tbh! like with your other skills like protection and vetting learning communication and bonding comes with practice

[zealous jungle]

most definitely!! ig until i can properly set up my space or get prepared to do so, i’ll continue practicing and bonding with my tools and deities

[wooden echo]

does anyone have a link to the Medusa myth?

[ornate tree]

which version of the myth?

either way I would suggest checking theoi.com

cuz they're 2 big versions of the myth one where she's punished by Athena and turned into a gorgon and one where she is always been one the one where she was turned into a monster comes from the Roman mythology

[ornate tree]

@wooden echo I deleted that since that's a highly triggering topic. and not one we really allow in server. iirc all versions of the myth include that but I may be wrong

would highly suggest theoi.com if you need help in finding the myth

[tranquil bronze]

question for those who practice hero worship,, do yall build an altar for them? bc im considering building one for king odysseus when i get back home from my holiday as i do more research on him

[spring epoch]

Most people do from what ive heard!! I’m making an altar for him soon 😸

[zealous jungle]

said good morning to Apollon and Helios and was flashed with light almost immediately 😭

had to move my coffee to the other hand ASAP

[spring epoch]

90% of their worship is being blinded😭

[zealous jungle]

literally but it’s their way of making sure we get our vitamin d 🤞🏽

[ornate tree]

(i believe you get vitamin d from sunlight since vitamin c is most commonly associated with oranges /gen/info)

[cedar radish]

^ yeah

[zealous jungle]

ou.. (you kinda clocked me.)

[ornate tree]

(i got yall fam 🙏 )

[zealous jungle]

(ty for correcting me i’m grateful)

[manic fractal]

are people judgy here? like in the other channels and stuff? I would LOVE to decorate my profile and stuff and talk ab my patron bc he’s a HUGE part of my life but a lot of people judge him based on the myths and stuff so I’m just worried 😭

[zealous jungle]

not at all!! this server is super accommodating and kind to all worshippers imo

[ornate tree]

if people are judging you over your religion and practice please report that to staff! it's definitely not tolerated and won't be welcome in any capacity!

if your worship of your deity fits within our rules and you aren't breaking any then your free to do as you please

[crude kelp]

I had a devotional profile theme here for a while so definitely a judgement free zone. Also seconding everything Ves said

[tall hamlet]

Does anyone know where I can find more information on vetting? I took a look through the deity and protections resource sections but I didn't quite find what I was looking for. I figured since it's almost the new year this might be a good time to get back into deity work but I want to learn more about vetting first

[ornate tree]

so what exactly are you trying to know more about it?

bc we dont have much besides examples and ways you can practice it

[tall hamlet]

All I was seeing was examples for deities I'm not interested in working with right now so I was wondering how I could choose good questions, methods of communicating, protecting yourself before hand, and what to do if it seems like you're not talking to the deity you were trying to talk to. I've never done spirit communication so I'm not entirely sure how to even begin the conversation

[crude kelp]

Have you checked out my lesson on communicating with entities from the entities class?

[ornate tree]

these are about vetting yourself and spirits but these can be places to start.

a lot of vetting is asking questions based on confirmed lore

[tall hamlet]

I didn't know there was an entity class. I'm not sure where to find them, I just kinda click different sections and browse around

[ornate tree]

this is also the post we have on communication basics

[crude kelp]

You can find the list of transcripts in #1114061502744371290 or #📜transcripts

[tall hamlet]

Thank you! It seems like there's a lot of things to take into consideration so maybe it's not a super great new year project for me but I've been wanting to do deity work really bad lately

[ornate tree]

if you also ever need to search for something in our resources, use the method of heading to the server search bar and doing: in: resources (thing you wanna know) this will pull up any instance of that word or phrase in the resources channel

[tall hamlet]

Thanks to both of you! I didn't know that was a function discord had! That'll make future browsing easier

[ornate tree]

yeah np!

[crude kelp]

Ofc!

[full pelican]

Its almost new year for me and i dont know what or how to do something for the gods in such strict household

[ornate tree]

you can give thanks to them for the help youve been given over the year

you dont have to do anything but celebrating in their honor seems like a solid idea

[tall hamlet]

How do you begin a vetting session? Like if you already know who you want to reach out to and you know what questions you want to ask, how do you start it? Do you just ask the deity to speak to you?

[crude kelp]

Pretty much yeah!

[tall hamlet]

Do you have to summon them somehow or can you just say something like "(insert name here) I'd like to speak to you please"

[crude kelp]

Yeah you can just request to speak with them, say their name, light a candle or incense, whatever you feel you need/want to do to call their attention to you/your space

[tall hamlet]

Okay, thank you!

[twin dove]

Personally (DEFINITELY not an expert here, but it just feels right to me) i like to carve symbols relevant to that deity into the top of a candle and burn it

[tall hamlet]

That's a good idea! I always worry I'll be speaking out to no one in particular when I want to contact someone specific

[twin dove]

Ty!! I do poseidon, so I normally just do a simplified anchor and/or trident, but im sure other ones should have easy symbols

[oak helm]

How do I dispose of food offerings

[novel fiber]

I personally throw it to the earth, bury it, but since it is not accessible when i travel to a big town i put it in the trash

[tall hamlet]

I haven't done food offerings in a while but I used to eat them after they sat on my altar overnight

But like, use your judgement. If you leave chicken as an offering maybe don't eat that the next day. I ate the drink offerings and prepackaged snacks and stuff

[lavish flame]

I think i might clear off the top of my bookshelf and turn that into a mini altar, I really want to start leaving some offerings to Athena, Apollo, Artemis and Poseidon

[limber parcel]

Hello! I’m very new to this all but want to start working with deities. How do you know which one you want to work with and what’s the best method of communication?

Also, is an Altar really necessary? Because I don’t have space for one unfortunately but don’t want to disrespect them

[ornate tree]

hello so when you say that you're new to all of this do you mean deity work in general or do you mean like spirituality as a whole?

as for knowing which one you want to work with that's going to be a choice you make dependent on you and your interests

the best method of communication is going to depend on you again and what works for you in terms of communication

altars I won't say are necessary but if you can't have one because you don't have space I would suggest maybe looking into closet methods or digital methods of having altars

[lavish flame]

As a newbie myself I just felt drawn to some deities, (honestly just. The entire Greek pantheon) but Athena is the strongest connection i feel because of my strong sense of justice and morality

[limber parcel]

Spiritually as a whole! I’ve been interested for a few years but a couple of months ago I decided it’s something I really wanted to do. Some people in my family practice but unfortunately I don’t have contact with them so I’m not able to go to them for help. Also had no idea digital methods were a thing, so would like to know more about that!

[ornate tree]

okay so since you're so new to spirituality as a whole I strongly suggest that before jumping into deity work at all you definitely need to make sure you get your basics down this is going to be:

• a method of cleansing
• a method of banishing
• a method of grounding
• a method of vetting and this will lean into learning which method of communication works best for you
• and finally for you to have a solid method of protection

you want these down before contacting deities because this way you're safe at all stages of communication!

and for digital lemme grab thing

[limber parcel]

Is there any deities that work well for beginners or does it not matter?

[ornate tree]

there aren't really "beginner friendly" ones but more so ones that reach out to them frequently: Apollo, Hekate, Hermes, etc

[lavish flame]

^^

[ornate tree]

these are all deities of "change or transition" which can be helpful as guides for beginners

and then there are also video game ones: #1114061823377952809 message

[limber parcel]

Thank you so much this is helpful! 🥰 digital altars is most likely a way to go for me till I get my own place!

[ornate tree]

I love them sm! I have a few on notion and discord

[limber parcel]

Also hope you guys dont mind me asking a couple of things here and there- I don’t wanna be annoying 😭

[shell musk]

Ask away! not annoying to wanna learn

[zealous jungle]

i’m thinking of worshipping Artemis but i dont see a lot of polytheists talk about her?? is it just me??

[ornate tree]

Hm I think she's a lot more known on other platforms! it also could just be because she has a lot less myths about her specifically then a lot of other gods do. like Apollo has a bunch, aphrodite has a bunch, etc

She's still fairly popular tho!

but I feel other gods have gotten a tad more limelight in modern media so they are more popular? Hades and Persephone (bc all the shit they're in), Aphrodite bc love gods always are, Apollo (and other gods) bc of pjo

she just doesn't have a lot of stand alone modern stuff

[zealous jungle]

rightt makes sense. i’m just wondering what could be offered for her

like i don’t know how to go about her offerings 😣

[ornate tree]

have you looked through the deities Channel? we have lists for offering methods on pretty much the whole greek Pantheon in there if not written by us then written in links

[zealous jungle]

i was going to look through it but for lack of better phrasing, i just wanted my offerings to come from me and not necessarily bc that’s what everyone is doing

but i’m sure there’s offerings that are more associated w yk

[ornate tree]

so the issue is that like if you want them to come more from you than you have to do outside research regardless

because either way you go about it even if you're talking with people one-on-one what they do is not going to be what you are going to want to do in terms of your offerings so you're going to have to do research on her you're going to have to make up your own opinions on what offerings you want and then you're going to have to implement them yourself does that make sense

because if what you want is offerings coming from yourself then you have to make the executive decision to research her on your own this goes from her backstory to any myths that she's involved in what her historial and modern cult worship does for her. all of that

and what I mean by "lists of devotion" I'm talking about lists of things associated with her to pull from devotion wise

[zealous jungle]

yeah that makes sense!! i’m gonna have to do a deep dive for any of her myths in order to be able to figure out what kind of offerings i can give her

i just hope she ends liking what i give her 🤞🏽

[ornate tree]

I would suggest picking up theoi.com!

as a resource it's the most thorough at being able to give credit to sources and explain their background in mythology

[limber parcel]

Sorry but I’m having trouble understanding what vetting is 😭

[ornate tree]

so vetting:

vetting: making sure that the deity is who they say they are and is not a trickster spirit/something other than what they say they are. pendulums are frequently used to ask questions about the deities' mythos to verify they are not a trickster spirit/something other than what they say they are.

in some Hellenic belief systems, trickster spirits don't exist. I don't follow that but even if they don't you DO wanna be sure that who your communicating with is who you think it is/who they say they are.

bc things like trickster gods do exist (Hermes being the biggest one in the Hellenic pantheon)

this might help in understanding how you can practice:

this is for Zeus but these are examples of questions you can ask: #1114061636744007720 message

and these are for a demon but this can be another way to phrase your questions: #1114061545916354560 message

[manic fractal]

tysm!! <3

[manic fractal]

I'm glad to hear that, tysm!! (not pinging in reply cause I don't wanna bother you) people are just typically mean about poseidon 😭

like I just wanna collect seashells bro. let me be fr.

[manic fractal]

tysm!! <3

[lavish flame]

Oh! I'm also interested in worshipping Poseidon, so twinsies!

[manic fractal]

worshipping poseidon is SO much fun you'll love it

it's not always like yk super easy and stuff but it is very pleasant from my experience

[lavish flame]

I look forward to it! I might ask my mum for some of her shells and move my crystals to start a little area for all my deities :3

[manic fractal]

he's been my patron since I was like LITTLE so I've kinda worked with him all my life pretty much

[lavish flame]

That's amazing!

[manic fractal]

that's awesome, good luck to you and I hope everything goes well for you on your journey! :D /g

[lavish flame]

I bought a microSD card for my computer so I might finally put that idea of building an altar in Minecraft to work xD and thankies :3

[limber parcel]

I’ve been thinking about either Apollo or Hypnos as my first deity! Although I’m taking things slow

[spring epoch]

I started with Apollo and I’m only worshipping olympians rn BUT I’m setting up shelves soon and then I’m gonna make chthonic altars after 20 billions years of waiting

Alsoooo kinda random but I got a mirror for hades and I have this rose that my brain for some reason is itching to give to him

Just wanted an excuse to share the rose okay byeee

[limber parcel]

🥀 literally the emoji

[spring epoch]

It is omg

[manic fractal]

that is BEAUTIFUL hades will love it (persephone will too if you also work with her) 🖤

that picture just has such a beautifully soothing aura I love it

[spring epoch]

I want to💔💔 I’m still very terrified of bothering most gods though lmao

One day though😼

[crude kelp]

Worship is not a bother /gen
What are the gods for if not to worship them?

[manic fractal]

most of them honestly don’t mind being “bothered” as long as it’s with good intentions ml don’t be scared to reach out!!

[spring epoch]

Ty guys<33

ALSO omg omg omg

[manic fractal]

(also SO sorry if you don’t like platonic pet names it’s a habit)

[spring epoch]

Dw I love them it makes me so happy

I literally just got these an hour ago

Unfortunately the picture style for them isn’t all matching which bothers me a bit BUT the art is pretty

[manic fractal]

persephone especially is so so friendly and SO motherly and sweet (as long as you don’t disrespect her or hades) and I know at times hades def can seem intimidating esp with his aura but he’s very kind in my experience and he loves receiving offerings

[spring epoch]

Ooo

I’ve heard they’re really sweet

Like I was super scared of Poseidon and ares and they’re really nice to me

[manic fractal]

I’m pretty sure hades used to not have many devotees bc of the stigmatism he has surrounding him so he loves receiving anything that has like thought put into it for him ☹️💔

[spring epoch]

Omg what no😭 I love hades I just have a little olympians section first

I’m making a chthonic one soon and I think I’m most excited to set stuff up for hades, Persephone and Thanatos

Because I have a huge obsession with pomegranates and I have so much jewelry of them so Persephone will like it I think

[crude kelp]

I mean folks still prayed to Hades, but he wasn't someone people outright worshipped cause they didn't want to invite ||death|| into the house
It's not because of anything Hades did or didn't do

[ornate tree]

Hayes wasn't traditionally worshiped a lot because of the concept that worshiping ||death|| would bring ||death|| to you this goes for a lot of the underworld gods

who tf is Hayes

[spring epoch]

Hayes 😭

[ornate tree]

Hades 😔

[manic fractal]

oooh omg that sounds lovely!! <33

[spring epoch]

But yeah I’ve always really liked them a lot but I think I still have that whole “no death is evil” mentality a little

[ornate tree]

which is valid!

[spring epoch]

So when I’m out of it I’m sure I’ll be more confident with trying to worship and offer them things

[ornate tree]

like people viewing it that way aren't wrong, it's just what you are/arent comfortable with

[spring epoch]

It’s just what I’m used to hear

Hearing

[manic fractal]

ah yes that too I forgot about that sorry !!

[crude kelp]

You're good! A lot of folks don't really know about it

[spring epoch]

I was reading about that yesterday it was pretty fun

[ornate tree]

I personally like this passage on ||death|| and how to work with it!

ofc it's not for everyone and no one has to again up to what your comfortable with but it could be helpful to break from the mindset

[spring epoch]

ALSO idk if i mentioned but i got a mythology book

[ornate tree]

oooo

[spring epoch]

I love this omg

[ornate tree]

being a devotee to ||death|| it's so moving to me to see how others view it

[ornate tree]

the sides omg!! I love when you have fun colored ones

[manic fractal]

why is apollo building an army he’s collecting everyone I swear /j

[spring epoch]

He’s always had my soul

I love Apollo sm🫶🫶

[ornate tree]

tbh he's gotten hella popular lately

[manic fractal]

OMG it’s so pretty I love it

[ornate tree]

like at least 10-15 people have asked about him specifically in the last 6 months which based on how often we get folks is a lot

maybe it's something to do with the day getting shorter so they crave Apollo? 👀

[manic fractal]

poseidon is like a big fatherly teddy bear I swear (he’s my patron so I might be a TEENSY bit biased)

[ornate tree]

inchresting notion

[spring epoch]

SAME hes one of mine he says

Sorry for the like disappearing I have to wash my dishes

[ornate tree]

patrons and patronesses are a joint decision not one a god would make for you /info

[spring epoch]

Ngl I started with him cause I heard he was LGBT and I was like “YES I WONT GET SMITED‼️”

[spring epoch]

Got it! Ty :D

[ornate tree]

you have to collectively agree on that title because it's one that requires both parties to 100% understand that role and what it entails

[ornate tree]

NGL you wouldn't reguardless bc all the Greek gods are a lil queer lmao

[manic fractal]

all of the gods/goddesses are lgbtq in some way dw.

[spring epoch]

I didn’t know that then I was really scared😭

[ornate tree]

I don't know that they are distinctly like queer in the same way that we view queerness as human beings because they aren't human beings they're like otherworldly being so they like don't have gender don't have preferences.

nah your so okay

[spring epoch]

I was also freshly catholic but they’re all icons

Freshly ex-catholic

Wow my words aren’t working

[ornate tree]

especially growing up in the Catholic/Christian space

your told God hates gays like :/ dawg huh? God is gay

[manic fractal]

yeah but still they’re like not judgmental which is def something I personally was NOT used to after coming out of a very christian headspace

but def a very welcome surprise

[ornate tree]

yeah I mean gods on the whole won't judge you, it's other people that will

I just mean that putting like labels of queerness/gender/sexuality on gods that don't have physical forms/preferences/etc is a bit blurry bc like they are otherworldly, so their queerness is too? idk I'm just saying words but

like out of this world queer

queer on an level beyond human understanding

they put the + in LGBTQIA+

[manic fractal]

also this passage is beautiful thank you for sharing /g 🫶

[ornate tree]

oh ofc! glad I could!

[manic fractal]

imo it’s like man… isn’t winter just another form of ||death||? you’re not inviting ||death|| if it’s a season and stuff yk

but that’s my view

ofc people have a right to be uncomfortable with it regardless but I like looking at it in that light

[ornate tree]

almost all gods associated with winter are also associated with ||death|| in some way so I def get that.

Summer tends to be the season of growth but can also be dangerous too

[manic fractal]

this is so pretty omg

[manic fractal]

oh wow

[spring epoch]

I was originally gonna get one that was only 5 dollars but uh,,, I saw the pretty book and spent 20😞

[manic fractal]

honestly maybe

also sorry on the bus rn

[manic fractal]

oh so real bro

I gotta show off my mermaid tarot that I bought it’s so gorgeous

I love it

[limber parcel]

Found this book I had for years and decided to bring it with me to college to read

[ornate tree]

i forgot michael jordan is like a regular name to and was like "wait like michael b jordan?? the actor??" 😔

[limber parcel]

NO SAME

[cedar radish]

isn’t he a basketball player ?

[limber parcel]

I WAS LIKE “He wrote a book about gods??”

[limber parcel]

Yes!

[ornate tree]

Micheal Jordan is i was thinking of micheal b jordan the actor 😭

[cedar radish]

too many michael jordan’s

[slow pendant]

this is going to be a corny joke but Michaels do Be Jordaning XD

[limber parcel]

Are pocket altars okay to do??

Because I find the idea creative and I’m able to take it with me if I travel

[crude kelp]

Yep! They're a great option especially for folks who don't have space or who are in the broom closet

[oak helm]

I know Hermes' sacred tree is the strawberry tree but can I use regular strawberries for offerings instead of the fruit of the strawberry tree

[crude kelp]

Probably!

[oak helm]

chat what is miasma and agos im kinda new to the religion so i have no idea

[ornate tree]

hi nsfw content isnt allowed to be mentioned in server /gen

[slow pendant]

oop sorry i removed

Id recommend looking up resources on both as i dont want to break the server rules

but basically miasma is everyday grime and agos is like actual things that would disgrace you

[cedar radish]

i thought it was like.. the other way around

[slow pendant]

^

[ornate tree]

tho idk that it mentions agos? i havent read it all the way through

[slow pendant]

agos is just a much worse form of miasma. miasma is just general everyday life dirtyness that comes from being a human. agos though are things that societally are very looked down on or seen as immoral

basically you cant really wash off agos

but you can miasma

[cedar radish]

ahh

[slow pendant]

like things that would be considered "sins" are generally seen as agos

[cedar radish]

mixed them up then

[ornate tree]

ohh so it doesnt have them by name as agos, hubris, etc but it does list how you can gain maisma

[slow pendant]

yee

[oak helm]

i low-key like bullying kids on roblox but i remember its basically committing hubris

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-bald-bald-markiplier-funny-lightning-gif-17736098350794360848

[shell musk]

um well hubris aside, bullying people is generally looked down upon

and hubris is more so being too prideful and overconfident /info

[oak helm]

Oh I'm dumb 😔

Chat never skip a Demeter-core video

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6HBTBJ7/

NO POMEGRANATES

[manic fractal]

ofc!! I personally think pocket altars are adorable and they look so pretty!! 💙

[oak helm]

are the roman gods just the greek gods with different names?

[radiant jolt]

The Romans adopted many of the Greek gods and stories, so they are similar but not totally the same

[shell musk]

Definitely not as simple as that. There are a lot of differences and even added gods and different versions of the myths

[oak helm]

Can I use fake flowers as offerings instead of real ones?

[ornate tree]

yup! they are also nice bc you dont have to keep them watered bc plastic and fabric 🙏

[slow pendant]

^ i really like using fake flowers cause you can keep them there as a constant, also lego flowers too as you could use building them as an act of devotion, ive seen people crochet plants and id also give those too as offerings if i had any

[limber parcel]

So happy I got Lego flowers a few days ago, now I know what to use them for

[spring epoch]

I just gave Dionysus my first libation

I’m very jolly

[fluid solar]

that's awesome!!

[high crown]

I’d like to try Hellenism and to communicate with a god but I don’t know where or how to start

(Also budget friendly 😢)

[slow pendant]

i recommend starting with just prayer and all as a way to reach out, also i started off with getting dollar store candles and all. dollarstore and places like that typically have supplies for cheap. also if you want to do divination and cant afford a deck theres online divination tools for free and apps as well you can use. you can also print pictures of gods youd like to worship or assocations and put that up. or even doing art or devotional things for the gods (i like to do art or music, some people write, theres many ways to give offerings outside of food and all). also theres these resources: https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114061252247945320

i recommend also researching deities you would like to worship or work with, i know www.theoi.com has a lot of good info when starting out

[slow pendant]

sorry forgot to ping here's your ping 🙂

[high crown]

Tysmmm

[slow pendant]

np! ❤️

[high crown]

[limber parcel]

So is anyone else been listening to epic on repeat? Because I heard some people show it to the deities they work with and I think it’s so cute 😭

[shell musk]

yeah!! epic is truly a work of art

[radiant jolt]

Literally became #3 for the year on Spotify wrapped after only 2 weeks of listening

[limber parcel]

I can’t listen to it in public because I get teary eyed. The emotions that are captured in the songs are phenomenal 😭

[spring epoch]

Lowkey I felt guilty for listening to it sometimes until Zeus was like “YEAHHH PEAK🔥”

[limber parcel]

LMAOOO

[wooden echo]

i'm so happy! i finally was able to buy tarot cards and a pendulum!! time to start bonding with them 💪💗

[cedar radish]

blade warning but. new addition to my digital altar for ares

i was scrolling through pinterest and got a photo of a statue and had to do some digging to see what god it was depicting because it was showing up in ares search but .. it was athena 😭

pinterest is so bad at correctly labeling what gods are depicted in statues 💔 OR EVEN SAYING IT AT ALL

[ornate tree]

SWORD

[cedar radish]

sword with plate of pizza rolls and a monster

[shell musk]

very ares energy

[wooden echo]

the beautiful divination tools i got 💪💗

[oak helm]

im absolutely barking at the universe to grant me some money to buy this deck

[limber parcel]

I found this shop that sells beautiful swords, blades and hair pins

Considering gifting my god mother this one that’s inspired by isis since she loves her so much

[ornate tree]

ooo do they have greek gods?

omg wait thats so cool i think they added the egyptian hieroglyphs

sobbing bc this isnt hellenism related but their baphomet one 😭 they were like "have all the demonic symbols"

bc why are both lucifers AND leviathan's symbols on it 😭

[limber parcel]

Oh no 😭😭 it’s so pretty though

I didn’t check but maybe they do customs?

[ornate tree]

ooo maybe!

[novel fiber]

Ideas for a Hestia altar?

Small, accesible things

She’s like a mom to me

[frank quail]

I’d suggest maybe like herbs or fruit or olive oil

[radiant jolt]

I have read she's associated with an eternal flame, so something like a battery operated candle:) she also likes heart shaped things too, so maybe a heart shaped dish for your offerings.

[novel fiber]

Okay!

[wheat lake]

I have that exact tarot deck omg

[wooden echo]

you'd be surprised by how cheap it was 😭 it was only like 10-15 dollars for me 😭

[wooden echo]

omg rlly?

it's so pretty fr

i'm still working on bonding with it

[wheat lake]

Yes it was a Christmas gift from gf!

[wheat lake]

same! i’m learning it might not like reading for others

i think it has something to do with it being a gift from someone very intimate to me

[wooden echo]

ooo

i'm just working on getting used to the deck, the energy, and the act of doing readings while also bonding yk?

[wheat lake]

i do not (yet, I’m new) but that sounds really cool, i hope it goes well for you!

[wooden echo]

thank you!

[haughty hearth]

can someone help explain epithets to me?

[cedar radish]

epithets are essentially like. a deities role in a way. like one of lord apollons epithets would be the god of music

deities have many epithets, like aphrodite for example! her most well known epithet is the goddess of love, but she also has other epithets such as her being a goddess of ||war||

[ornate tree]

they are roles but in a lot of cases I like to refer to them sort of as how we as people present nicknames to each other

my family calls me a specific nickname because they know me and they've created that nickname my friends may call me a different nickname not because I'm a different person with them but because they know me differently and therefore have a different nickname in mind when they see me!

so online a nickname I have is Oli! that's not my name I use in real life and it's not the one that people irl refer to me as but it doesn't make me any less Oli. however if you were to meet me in real life and we have only ever talked online you may call me Oli and I would interact with you in the way that I have with you online

so bringing it back to the gods a "nickname" or epithet of Aphrodite would be Aphrodite Aria which means Aphrodite Warlike or Aphrodite of Ares. this doesn't make her less Aphrodite of Love! they're also specific place epithets like the Aphrodite of Athens may not be viewed in the same light as Aphrodite of New York

how many times did I say Aphrodite 😭

[cedar radish]

yes yes ! epithets are like. descriptors and can be used in a lot of different settings

[ornate tree]

yes! like how a dice has multiple faces but is all the same dice!

[lavish flame]

Aphrodite of New York 🙏

[slow pendant]

basically what everyone said above, i also want to add that the gods are multifaceted so all of their epithets exist at the same time, but also sometimes you (general you) might just want to call on or pray to a specific version or epithet of the god for whatever reason. Like Apollo for example he has a plague and healing aspect (just to name two lol) and I typically when sick pray to his healing epithets. If im playing instruments or doing music devotion, i will call to that epithet rather than the others.

[limber parcel]

In the process of making a pocket altar for Apollo ❤️ ☀️

[ornate tree]

YEAH! love love! do you print out the images that you find or is it meant to be like more of a digital one?

[limber parcel]

I print images out! I pick out what reminds me of him and things that associate with him. I even like to find fabrics, stickers, and rhinestones from craft stores or whatever I own

[ornate tree]

oooo I think I may start to do that!

I feel like the reason I've been putting off making like I'm not gonna call them pocked alters but it's like a junk journal but for a God is that I don't have supplies (olí your literally a crafter tf dym)

wow RIP sorry for typos that was horrific to read

[limber parcel]

You had me fighting for my LIFE

[ornate tree]

SORRY I was trying to walk down by stairs and use my speech to text at the same time

[limber parcel]

Wait a junk journal sounds so much fun to do.. And I have plenty of journals I collect

Like for my book of shadows, It has a picture of Elphaba from wicked lmaoo😭

[ornate tree]

valid! I also mentioned junk journals cuz I have far too many

[wooden echo]

updated altar pic time

cuz ik some ppl may need inspo (feel free to take inspiration from mine if you can't have a big altar or a ton of space)

Lord Hermes Altar (its new and bare and i feel so bad even tho ik it's okay to not have extravagant altars) ✨ ☁️ 💌 🪽 🏛️

Lady Aphrodites Altar (my biggest and busiest altar. only the best for her 💗) 🩷 🐚 🌹 🎀 🏛️

yes that is water with glitter and flower petals

Lord Apollon's altar (funny enough he was my first deity. his altar is also more bare than i would like) 🌻 ☀️ ✨ ☁️ 🏛️

King Zeus' altar! (i love him sm you don't even understand. IM SO UPSET HIS ALTAR IS SO BARE I NEED MORE FOR HIM) ☁️ ⚡ 🌧️ 🩵 🏛️

[ornate tree]

those are all so stunning omg!

[wooden echo]

tysm!!!

[limber parcel]

What flowers does Aphrodite like besides roses?

[ornate tree]

i think this might be helpful as it has all of the posts we have in server that are associated with aphrodite: #1114061252247945320 message

including some offering lists & lists of things shes associated with

[robust zodiac]

Hi! I’m pretty new to Hellenism, and live in a very Christian household so I literally only own a pendulum and have a super subtle Aphrodite alter (I had a lot of stuff for her, so I started with her cause I had the space). And honestly, I just need some sort of reassurance that I’ll get the hang of this religion. I see everyone experiencing getting signs from the gods and just generally being super in touch with their spiritually in terms of Hellenism, and then there’s me—who hasn’t experienced a lot of that. I know I need to be patient and understand that I’ll get the hang of it with time, but I’ve been struggling a lot with doubting my spiritual ability despite it being very apparent and clear. Any advice or like, reassurance, would be amazing to hear right now.

[ornate tree]

honestly you dont need to experience that to have a valid practice! i didnt even start reaching out to gods as a whole until i was 5 years into mine and for a few years my worship of them consisted of 0 signs and things like that

these things are life long practices, if you dont get it in the first few years thats normal, and a lot of times talks of what people experience can be exaggerated or overly complex for the sake of understanding, a lot of people are not literally sitting down and having a 1 to 1 conversation with aphrodite in the flesh, but are using things like penudulms, tarot, etc to do so

when i say im having a tea party with my gods, im legit just pouring tea in empty cups for them and talking to what a lot of people would view as an empty room

[brave ridge]

It's hard to say anything that hasn't been said, soo I'll just repeat it. Everything you're experiencing is totally normal and it does take time

This is a blurb I wrote to someone who was feeling a similar way; #1114755852973383792 message
It may be an encouraging read

Like said exaggeration is a funny thing. I'd like to think complex and time consuming means would get me to a greater end but I know even as basic as can be is a-okay. You don't need to feel and understand everything; even after years you may not.

And spirituality changes over time, as you change in age, ideas, environment (etc) you'll see it change too. You got this even if it feels like you don't, there's tons of folks who'd love to help wether it be experience, advice or reassurance

[robust zodiac]

Thank you sm 😭 that actually helps so much. I’m glad that I’m not like, an unheard of case because it’s really been bothering me lately. I’ll def look into the link as well 🙂

[spring epoch]

That’s my super awesome wife I always mention by the way >:D she’s the one Apollo made fun of and Hermes called girlfriend😭

ALSO today I need to consult Poseidon but I’m feeling kinda bleghhhhhhhhhhhh so I’ll probably do that soon

[robust zodiac]

Just felt like mentioning how reassuring Athena was today 😭

I’ve been feeling a little uneasy about my academics lately (grades and such) and so I consulted her via pendulum and I genuinely just asked if she had any faith in me and it was a REALLY prominent yes

[stray sandal]

hey guys! does anyone know how to do a tarot reading seeking comfort from any deity? i've been asked and i'd love to help but i'm not familiar with any particular spread

[ornate tree]

you might have more luck asking in #1114756273913741312

[stray sandal]

thanks!!

[high crown]

my religion teacher thinks that Jesus is the only real god and that greek/roman mythology is not real..

Like

[zealous jungle]

oh!

[high crown]

A girl said she loves Aphrodite

[zealous jungle]

arent teachers supposed to stay neutral on the matter?

[high crown]

and he said that they are not real bc where did they go after Jesus’ appearance

[zealous jungle]

a for effort on making the classroom welcoming and open to students

[high crown]

Yeah…

now they’re talking bout the god of luck

anyways

[robust zodiac]

I love communicating w/ Aphrodite 😭💗

She’s genuinely been so sweet every interaction I’ve had with her

[ornate tree]

i love her!

[robust zodiac]

Like, my partner and I were on call once, and I happened to have broken an accessory I really loved and we happened to be in the middle of communicating with the gods at the time, so he decided to do some keyboard divination for some reassurance from Aphrodite (I’ve worked with her the most and she’s the only one I’ve been able to make a proper alter for) and she says “You’ll be ok love”. Genuinely I’ve never felt so reassured in my life until communicating with her

Also he happened to have lit her candle on call at one point (we’d been communicating with her already) and I had some things to say and her flame did a heart toward me 😭

This religion is genuinely so wonderful in general

[ornate tree]

im glad your having such a lovely experience

[tranquil bronze]

i was checking out the athenian calendar on hellion to add the festivals to my calendar,, was wondering that the "lesser" and "greater" mysteries are

[slow pendant]

https://www.hellenion.org/essays-on-hellenic-polytheism/lesser-mysteries-of-eleusis/
https://www.hellenion.org/festivals/lesser-mysteries/
https://www.hellenion.org/festivals/eleusinian-mysteries/
These are all from Hellion and should explain it

also this source from wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries

[slow pendant]

forgot to ping oops

[reef scaffold]

I made lord Dionysus an Altar and he's already asking for grapes

Alright, my lord I'm buying you grapes

[oak helm]

omg this is actually so real

[oak helm]

Hestia is bestia we say in unison

[lavish flame]

672th...

[novel fiber]

HESTIA IS THE BEST

[tranquil bronze]

literally me when starting playing the ukulele for him 😭

[paper nymph]

does anyone have resources for hero worship?

also technically he isn’t…a hero? i think? i’m unsure if that would still count (alexander the great)

[ornate tree]

we have stuff in #1114061252247945320

specifically this: #1114061252247945320 message

[paper nymph]

hii thanks i’ll check it out :3

but also wondering if its okay since i dont know if he counts as a hero or not

[ornate tree]

well that depends on your definition of hero. imo this would be more along the line of both hero and spririt worship bc he was like an actual dude

[paper nymph]

it seems like the methods are mostly the same

[ornate tree]

yeah! most hero worship is pretty similar to most other spirit work

[limber parcel]

What signs might you get if Hecate is trying to reach you?

[slow pendant]

Hekate is associated with black dogs, the colors black and red typically, keys, torches, crossroads/paths that converge, the new moon/the slight sliver of the moon, so any of these could be signs depending on how they show up. I sometimes associate her with an aspect of venus but i think any of what i mentioned could be signs of her. I think in a way spiders could be too; she also can be associated and is depicted with snakes sometimes and also toads. She is associated with garlic and pomegranetes. She has connections to the underworld as a guide for souls and also helped Persephone on her journey. I think seeing particularly black dogs is a big sign of her and also crossroads or keys. She also has a symbol of her wheel and is associated with magic.

Some of these messages could help:
#1114061636744007720 message
#1114061636744007720 message
#1114061636744007720 message
#1114061636744007720 message

Love Hekate alot ❤️ also if you feel she is reaching out, i def recommend doing some divination with her for confirmation 🙂

[limber parcel]

Oh I’ve definitely been getting signs then, this is so wild wow 😭

[slow pendant]

awww thats awesome! I love the timing too is right around just after the new moon

[limber parcel]

oh wait wow I didn't realize that

I adore Hecate though don't get me wrong, but I feel so intimidated to reach out to her

but I'm curious as to why I'm getting these signs

[slow pendant]

From my personal opinion, she is actually really kind and loving, she is like a mother figure for me. I enjoy her guidance and all

If you want to work with her then i say to reach out to her/do divination if you want or other ways to reach out ❤️

like yes she may want me to do shadow work but it isnt ever unkind (in my personal opinion/upg)

[ornate tree]

you can also always ask

[slow pendant]

agreed theres alot of good spreads too if you do divination to ask

[limber parcel]

This could explain why I keep feeling an intimidating but motherly presence

[ornate tree]

she is also a goddess of crossroads and that includes the crossroads of life experiences!

so if your going into something new that could be why

[slow pendant]

^ive found her really helpful for those types of dilemmas too like either trying to get out of something and going into something new or hitting a crossroads in life (like for example job switching is one where she has helped me navigate)

[limber parcel]

I'm actually going through my journey right now to improve my mental and physical health that I've neglected for so long

I'll have to reach out when I have time today

The thought makes me nervous lmao 😭

[arctic ether]

guys i need offering ideas but i live in a christian household so some easy but good offerings or devotional acts for Aphrodite and Athena

[ornate tree]

would def check #1114061636744007720

[haughty hearth]

Me when i start doubting the gods but they pull through everytime and im just impatient 😔

im new to religion, cut me some slack (i say to myself)

[robust zodiac]

REAL. I’m new to Hellenism as well and I swear the second I start having doubts, I get like insane amounts of signs from the gods 😭 (Apollo LOVES to swarm me with crows every time I go outside)

[tranquil bronze]

happy festival of dionysia!! gonna try and honour lord dionysus for the week euiudhnub

[haughty hearth]

^^
I'm in a shakespeare class and I like to devote my readings to him :D

[oak helm]

I feel ares trying to hype me up while weight lifting

[novel fiber]

He’s a gym bro!!

[shadow kayak]

I totally feel that lol. He's such a gym bro. I love it

[spring epoch]

Ares is probably excited for when i start going to the gym lmao

He’s so sweet i love him

[shadow kayak]

tfw protein shake on the altar

lol

[ornate tree]

no fr 😭 i have a workout playlist called "Ares Says GOOOOO" which i use when i need that boost of a gym bro telling me i got this

[shadow kayak]

I'm shocked I just joined this server and I have never seen anyone on discord have discussions about anything to do with Ares lol , but I'm also rarely on discord anymore.

Big w in this place so far 😎

lol

[zealous jungle]

Ares ftw!!!! i don’t work with him (and quite honestly i’m terrified of the gym and sweating) but from other hellenists experiences, he seems thoughtful 😣

[shadow kayak]

yes he's been a really important component in my life for years now

big w

[spring epoch]

He’s really cool and he makes sure I actually stand up for myself which is sick

[ornate tree]

I love ares <333 i have this poem that i found for him and aphrodite 🥺

🥺

[cursive granite]

Wanted to share a Spotify playlist with hymns, chants, and other somewhat religious music, mostly by Petros Tabouris (always great reconstructions, in my opinon). <3
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4iziKHnCZBy7GrEPUGXNNI

[novel fiber]

i'm gonna have to dedicate my workouts to Ares to get the gym bro boost ngl

been so tired lately i havent trained as i should

[cursive granite]

#🕯️witchy message
@low briar
I really wanna have a proper festival celebration, though. I'll forward a message from another server, hold on. /nao

I'd usually celebrate Anthesphoria, but:

1. There's nowhere to pick flowers anywhere close to where I live.
2. Celebrating only one of the flower festivals feels disrespectful to the other.

My solution might be to offer libations and prayer to Diónysos after, since this would be my first time communing in almost a year.

But I have no idea what to offer, other than wine. I usually guide myself on tradition, but there's really no manual for "sorry I didn't celebrate your holy day, I wasn't praying at the time".

[ornate tree]

are you going purely on traditional worship?

or are reconstructed/modern methods something u take into account

[cursive granite]

I mean, I think worship is a very personal thing, but yes, sort of.

[ornate tree]

asking cuz that would differ what advice I give

no I understand that I just mean like do you purely follow traditional worship as in what Greek people did in ancient Greece

or are you open to modern interpretations of those things

[cursive granite]

Reconstructed, yes, modern not really, unless I find a "justification", if that makes sense. Like, not just something someone said in a book.

[cursive granite]

Not exclusively, no.

[cursive granite]

Interpretations definitely.

Sorry, I'm not good at communication. 😭

[ornate tree]

no your okay I get what you mean

there are a lot of lists out there that are like settle ways that you can worship various deities in the Greek religion based off of personal associations but! I follow this really amazing person on Tumblr who, using academic resources built a sort of cheat sheet for a lot of the main deities and some minor ones in Hellenism

let me grab

https://screeching-0wl.tumblr.com/post/666760646189318145/a-guide-to-worship-of-dionysus-cheat-sheets
blocked from embedding due to nudity but this one has a list of offerings and associations that you can do as well as devotional acts

but I don't think this is the end or be all. there's obviously a lot that can't be included cuz it is just cheat sheets but they do site their sources at the end!

this also links back to the rest of them which I find amazingly helpful

hopefully that can give ideas of offerings 🙏

[cursive granite]

Thank you so much! I'm always grateful for these sorts of references for gods I don't habitually offer worship to as prominently. Even for the ones I'm more familiar with, it's always nice to learn something new.

[ornate tree]

we also have a whole #1114061252247945320 section if you need some ideas for things like hero worship or info on stuff like maisma

[cursive granite]

:O

[cursive granite]

Wow! Aside from Érebos, that list covers basically all of the ones I pray to somewhat "regularly"! You've really made my day with this! <3

[ornate tree]

[oak helm]

you know what? close enough 💔

[brave ridge]

The rats were actually able to speak and offered legal advice for how to deal with loans and unfair work place treatment. Though because the worshipper stepped on a oak tree root the offering was void and they were turned into a cricket (the rats then took ownership of all worldly possessions allowing the Goddess to domain over the HOA)

[oak helm]

GOODNIGHT 💔

[limber parcel]

Out of curiosity, how do you all feel about the key board method when reaching out to deities?

I keep seeing too much about it and I’m seriously confused now

[ornate tree]

imo it acts as a method similar to ouija boards and pendulum with a pendulum board? unless there is another method 😔

[shadow kayak]

what's the keyboard method?

[brave ridge]

Using a keyboard like an ouija board

[nocturne dome]

Hey I was wondering if you have any hekate playlists

[ornate tree]

that person is no longer in the server 🙏

[nocturne dome]

Omg why not, did they commit treason 🫢

[ornate tree]

I genuinely think they just left lol

if you want I can share my Hekate playlist that I think I have

[shadow kayak]

Oh interesting

[tranquil bronze]

tried it once,, it was pretty confusing and tedious,, the messages i got from them was hard to interpret

maybe i just need to develop my kharis with them further but i couldn't connect with them as well as the other divination methods i've used

[ornate tree]

it also can just be harder overall for folks that are used to divination methods that have existing meanings attached to switch to something where you may have to like play Scrabble to get a solid answer out of it

[spring epoch]

AGHH I’m late i think sometimes it shouldn’t be used w certain methods cause i see a lot of people just actually moving with it but i think it works yeah

I personally just ask every letter

Takes forever but no confusion

[trail marten]

OH 😯 my dionysus

we had THIS?!!!

it's like finding a cave full of treasure

-# just found out there are chats for different subjects damn

[novel fiber]

Is it true the myths/stories about the gods in Hellenism aren't literal?

[crude kelp]

Yep!

The stories were more meant to convey moral standards and lessons, explain the world around us, and to entertain!

In fact, most mythologies in the world aren't meant to be taken literally. That only really came about with the Abrahamic faiths

[trail marten]

In Hellenism the myths and stories about the gods and pantheon are often interpreted tad allegorically like as pidge said they convey deeper spiritual and philosophical or morals rather than being historical facts.

[trail marten]

questions for my hellenic polytheistic cuties<3

• what deities do you work with?
• why do you work with em?
• do you feel they like you?
• what do you offer em?

-# YES! you are a cutie!

[slow pendant]

tw: mention of ||bones/taxidermy||

1. so i recognize the full pantheon but i work with specifically and from the pantheon of Apollo, Helios, Hekate, Persephone, Athena, Artemis, Hades, Kheiron, Kharon, Hermes/Mercury, and Cerbie (Cerberus) as well as the divinities/energies/spirits of the Agathos Daimon and the naiads, nereids and oceanids. I also like to honor/worship Hera, Zeus, Aphrodite, Ares and Demeter.

2. <insert why here, coming back to this when i have more time to reply later>

3. My upg/experience: My practice is for me and i have built kharis with the gods I work with so I would hope they do. I feel like my gods have unconditional love for me like I have for them and that i see different ones i work with in different capacities as either parents to me, a friend capacity, mentors, or guides that have alot of meaning in my life and that they would see me in a loving way. I definitely feel their love and care so i dont think whether they like me is a question i ask since i know they care and love me (not as a conceited thing but something central to my practice of my guides being loving/caring being v important to me)

4. Offerings: it depends on the god or being that i am offering to, typically traditional foods/fruits or foods i like that i associate with them, candles, pressed/dried herbs that i associated with them, crystals, trinkets i associate them with, flowers i associate them with/plants, art i do for them as a devotional piece, having things that have their traditional symbols/signs/animal signs on them for their altar spaces, things i see that remind me of them to put on their altars, having altar spaces for my gods, having their statues or representations of them on their altars, ||bones, taxidermy, oddity stuff for some of my cthonic gods||, fossils and rocks, devotional jewelry, self care acts (daily tasks or other things i need to do to take care of myself. for example going to the doctor or dentist or whatever as a devotional act), i feel like alot i do in life is to honor the gods i work with and myself. also doing research on different things as a devotional act/puzzles/things like that for Athena or other gods, doing readings for others when i feel called to as an offering to my friends' gods and guides, making my own divination decks/sets, going on walks in nature or connecting to nature to connect with my gods as an offering, i feel like i offer many different things as offerings for my gods. Offering them my fave drinks like tea or soda or soft drink as an offering. Doing therapy work and shadow work as offerings too. i think theres just so many different ways i give offerings to them. i think also different actions i do as offerings like i like to give to street musicians as a gift to Apollo esp when they move me or picking up trash on the beach or park to honor the water spirits and dryads of that area. Just some examples.

[slow pendant]

Answer to #2: i work with the gods i do because i felt a pull towards them for one reason or another and they have relevance in different aspects of my life; like alot connect to me in certain ways and help me work on different things. i think thats the simplest way i can answer that lol. but yeah like their mythos struck me in a way or i just really connect with the symbology/energy of the deity/divinity in question.

[ornate tree]

im not strictly a hellenic polytheist but i do work w a bunch of greek gods!

• Hades, Aphrodite, Eros, Hekate, Nyx, Thanatos, Hermera
• most of these gods are associated with the underworld and as a ||death witch|| thats where i primarily have a lot of gods, i also work hermera ( and a few other unlisted gods) as a way to honor the family of gods i do work with! Aphrodite and Eros are both gods i worship for my personal self improvement, and honestly a lot of times i worship them bc they are cool lol no real reason other than that
• hm, do they like me is a question i never really asked because i dont think i had any reason to believe otherwise? i feel like if they didnt like me we wouldnt have a relationship
• offerings include a crap ton of stuff. random shit i find thats like ("oh x god will like"), art, foods, animals in any capacity (plush, ||bones||, etc) that are associated with them, drinks, water, and like sooo much more. acts of devotion are pretty important to me as well, i craft, take care of myself, and experience life in their honor and for my enjoyment

[cursive granite]

• Quite a few! Athena, Persephóne, Hermés, Hekáte, Háides, Apollon, Eros, and Psyché are the ones I work with the most, but it does depend on many things.

• In order (why I work with them):
  Athena is the embodiment of all I strive for, and all I admire. I work with her because she leads me not only in achieving my goals, but in guiding others as well.
  Persephóne is the matriarch of the underworld, and her cthonic cult is far more ancient than her floral and spring one. I worship her as the softness in death and life.
  Hermés is the guide of lost souls, and in his syncretic relationship with Thoth he holds the knowledge on how to best honour the dead and commune with the theoi.
  Hekáte is the guardian of the crossroads, and if Prometheus is the one who granted humans knowledge and the fire of curiosity and free will, she is who mantains it.
  Háides is the patriarch of the underworld, but, importantly, he is also a god who understands the plight of human mortality better than most, and in a way that leads him to pity those who come to him for aid, but also comfort those he cannot help directly. He is who I come to to remember the dead, rather than commune with them.
  Apollon is my guiding light, and the leader of the muses who inspire my words. I come to him to find my way, and to find my voice.
  Eros and Psyché I worship together, as I feel that is how I respect them best. The spirit and love which fill my life with joy are not two disjoint entities, but two inextricable deities, joined by their passion and mutual worship.

• In order (whether I feel like they like me; answer is "no" for none of them, but there's nuance, although it's always just my feelings):
  Athena: She is proud of me, but does not want the kind of relationship where her "liking me" is important.
  Persephóne: She loves me and is proud, like a doting mother.
  Hermés: He loves me and is proud, like a teasing older sibling.
  Hekáte: She likes me and is proud, like a teacher.
  Háides: He pities me and admires my resilience, as he does all humans.
  Apollon: He guides me and is happy he can provide me warmth; he couldn't ever really dislike the devote.
  Eros and Psyché: They like me and watch over me, like caring ancestors.

• In order (what I offer them mostly):
  Athena: acts of devotion (mostly intellectual and craft) and prayer to show her my progress (in a way).
  Persephóne: Flower cuttings and devotional acts of appreciation of what she brings, as well as a more appreciative and thankful prayer.
  Hermés: Spice offerings and (personally) valuable objects, as well as prayer and conversation.
  Hekáte: Spice offerings and ritual worship, as well as devotional acts in enacting my will, individuality, and practice.
  Háides: burnt offerings and devotional acts in reverence towards, and ceremony around, the dead.
  Apollon: spice offerings, burnt offerings, poetry, song, altar-work, and other art; devotional artistic and appreciative acts.
  Eros and Psyché: devotional acts primarily, appreciative and loving prayer, and food and spice offerings.

[shell musk]

here’s a bit of a different perspective

i do not work with any specific gods. instead i worship the whole pantheon equally. i used to work with Aphrodite and Hermes but quickly felt like I was disconnected to the rest of the religion, and it wasn’t lining up with my daily lifestyle. I was never really religious to begin with, so I stopped trying to suddenly pray and worship and change my brain like that.

I have a dish on my altar that’s dedicated to all the gods, where I leave a variety of offerings. This is my nonperishable permanent place of worship. Otherwise, I do activities and rituals in Honor of them. I’ll also eat and drink in their honor as well.

I hardly ever pray, and will petition instead if I need something

[stable yoke]

Oehhh

1. At first it was Apollon, but atm I kinda don’t work with anyone specifically cause I’m kinda just getting into it again, but I’m starting to feel rlly drawn to Persephone, especially with the season change now so I wanna start working with her, and possibly hades more.
2. I work with them bc it feels right, and bc of respect I think. Although in the past I haven’t done too much with it I’m so glad for their patience and presence and they get so happy when I rlly spent some time with them and they help me relax in moments of stress
3. Yep! Like I said I don’t have too close of a bond, but it’s slowly starting and the energy feels good.
4. Not a lot yet, but just anything rlly! If I’m eating smt In my room I just place smt on my alter, but now it’s getting dark later I’m also hoping on doing ||fire/burning|| offers too

[oak helm]

I'm just eating nuggets and I'm seeing someone declare war on Apollon and I feel like we should just let them considering we haven't gotten a new myth in like a Millenia 💔/hj

[tranquil bronze]

declare WHAT on WHO

[ornate tree]

omg on tt?? I saw that

[cedar radish]

maybe that’s why the sun is storming… that’s genuinely a wild thing to do 😭😭

have we learned NOTHING

[ornate tree]

it's giving hex the moon energy

[cedar radish]

YEAH

i feel like someone in texas pissed a wind god off maybe because it’s so windy

[ornate tree]

😔 😔 😔 it wasn't me I swear

[tranquil bronze]

maybe that's why it got scorching hot this week............. (it's autumn down here)

[stable yoke]

Oh nooo

I feel like he’s quite happy here tho we’ve been getting the best weather

[hollow coyote]

fr, I was like, what. Weve been getting really cloudy weather most of the day and really high heat on the evening, I was practicing volleyball monday and I literally got blinded by the sun for like 5 seconds and couldnt set the ball correctly, like, Apollon calm downnnnn I dont want to be more blind than I already am

[ashen fable]

I have a question, I see with gods people use Lord/lady/king/queen but how to we refer to the heros

[ornate tree]

you could do the same!

[ashen fable]

Alright thank you!!!

[ornate tree]

or like "my liege"

[ashen fable]

I physically couldn't do that cause of Malleus draconia(video game character that gets called that) . He haunts me💔

[ornate tree]

https://www.royaltitles.net/blog/lord-vs-king-whats-the-difference/

that might be helpful! but tbh the lord/lady/king/queen titles are arbitrary/not required as thats probably not how they were addressed in Greece so its what we as an english speaking audience equate to respect for them

[lavish flame]

Simply call every god "my dear blorbos" /j

[stable yoke]

No but why do I feel like some would like that just for the joke of it

[lavish flame]

Someone probably would say that lol

[stable yoke]

Indeed indeed

[stable yoke]

TW ||skull + horn|| finally got on to taking some time for Persephone and Hades altar!! (She has raspberry’s too it’s hidden by the flower) and I got around to spending some time with her

[shell glen]

That looks very pretty! ☺️ /gen

[trail marten]

||skull|| Is that an ||athame||? it looks so kewl 😎

[stable yoke]

Not technically, but I am planning on using it like that!

[ashen fable]

That looks so amazing!!! Is it a real horn ?

[stable yoke]

It’s a ||daggar|| I bought at Elfia, an event:))

[stable yoke]

Thxxx, and yep! Atleast I’m like 99% sure

[trail marten]

that's cool ngl

[stable yoke]

Yesss

[trail marten]

I love it how it looks

[stable yoke]

Thxx

[trail marten]

all.shiny and game looking thingy

<33

[ashen fable]

Does anyone have any ideas what food offering could be baked or cooked for Lord Apollon?

Since I keep giving apples, oranges, lemons and homemade bread I'd like to try and make something else this time

[stable yoke]

I think he’d rlly like lemon cake or something of the sort

Idk if it’s spring for u rn but I think it also rlly ties in with (my) the weather atm

[ashen fable]

I'll try to bake one when I buy the ingredients thanks!

[stable yoke]

Npp

[normal sorrel]

could anyone explain how they usually go about libations or food offerings please?? i've been investigating and i got contradictory information and now im confused lol

[ornate tree]

there isn't a proper "true" way to do them

historically offers were burnt for the gods

modernly people bury them, leave them out until they rot, leave them out until they can't, leave them out for a few hours, eat them, etc

it's a matter of what you can feasibly do and what your gods are okay with

[ebon dagger]

personally, since my parents would be alarmed if there was rotting food on my desk, i tend to either eat/drink something and dedicate the meal to them, or i give like a piece of chocolate or a drop of honey, something small, and leave it for a couple hours

[ornate tree]

I don't typically leave for out for longer than a few hours bc of my bug phobia

if I wanna do that I'll implement fake foods and if I do wanna offer I just eat for them

[ebon dagger]

fake foods? where do you get those from?

[ornate tree]

the store usually! in the craft isle things like fake fruit and stuff

you can also 100% find those little plastic foods for kids at the thrift store and definitely use those

[ebon dagger]

oooh thats so smarttt i have to go and get some

[ornate tree]

[brave ridge]

8$ for the plastic basket of food for my altar (fry toy bin) was best purchase

Unfortunately a strawberry is all that remains cause.. I literally don't know where tf they went

[tranquil bronze]

asked lord apollo if he can be my patron and it essentially went like this:
"sure ig, it's your choice, just take care of yourself for me"

[hollow coyote]

Finally cleaned up my desk and expanded the altars!! I also got a new space for Tyche (Im still researching her but I've always been interested in her a lot) one of the small bags thats I got from an event of the Chinese new year is filled with 1 cent coins (not fully, my collection is small) and the other one is filled with Bolivares, which I got from my brother when we migrated from Venezuela, so yeah, altar update lol, btw I got inspired to do this and clean my desk, which I have never dome before, by hearing The Crane Wives, so I guess thats still my comfort music with my deities

Oh and imagine the puzzle on the right is done, just imagine, I shall find the energy to do it another day

Lol

[finite merlin]

ooh nice!

[limber parcel]

Got my hands on this today!

[scenic atlas]

been wanting to make an alter for either apollo or hekate, but due to how im living rn, i cant do that unfortunately. Any devotional acts I could do to make up for it? I'm still unsure on who I want to start worshipping, very nervous to start haha

[ornate tree]

and if you're more of a closeted person this might be a really good resource to look into because it's more subtle ways!

you can also 100% make altars! maybe not ones that are big and Grand but digital ones, travel altars, video game altars, etc are also all options! we have that in #1114061823377952809

[novel fiber]

Does khernips have to be made in a brand new bowl(never used before) or can i use a used bowl?

[ornate tree]

imo a used bowl is fine

the water is what's important not the vessle

[limber parcel]

Did this in my counter for the night!

[scenic atlas]

Thank you SO much!!

[tranquil bronze]

following this up,, do we keep the herbs in the water after dropping them in it or do we throw them away?

i plan on having khernips in a spray bottle since there's no way for me to keep a bowl while hiding my practice since i live at home with family

[ornate tree]

I would personally recommend that you take the herbs out of the water if you're going to keep them long-term and this is purely due to you not wanting mold in your spray bottle cuz that would be annoying to clean

[spring epoch]

Hey guys!! Wondering if anyone has heard of that ares devotee on TikTok who like apparently declared war on Apollo??

I’m so confused on whats going on with that

[ornate tree]

people being really weird 😔

just some person that has it in their head that they're better than other people and gods because they worship a specific God 😭

[slow pendant]

i try to ignore witchtok/anything with the gods on tiktok cause of stuff like this cause my goodness

[slow pendant]

literally like the ego alone💀

[ornate tree]

keep in mind these are also the same people that perpetuate the concept that only women can work with Artemis and that Athena/Aphrodite and Persephone hate each other and you can't work or worship both of them at the same time or else you're indicing wrath upon yourself 😵‍💫

[spring epoch]

Yeah it’s so weird I was so lost

And apparently people are feeding into it?? Like someone said Apollo asked them to fight in his behalf

I doubt he did?? Like

[ivory plume]

anything thank ranks 10/10 on my "ridiculous shenanigans" scale i just assume it's rage bait tbh

[spring epoch]

Probably is

[slow pendant]

im also curious how old this person is cause alot of times i feel these things come from someone thats like 16 or a teenager just being edgy

or rage bait

[spring epoch]

They look like 15-18

[ivory plume]

probably just some bored edgy teen then

[ornate tree]

or they got all of their information off of tick tock and genuinely believe that the gods will be like hey fight for me mortal 😵‍💫

[slow pendant]

or that^

[ivory plume]

meanwhile the gods are actually like:

[spring epoch]

Okay yeah I just wanted to make sure if it was actually as absurd as I thought it was

Cause a ton of people started posting about it again after like a month of it being irrelevant and how Apollo is saying that he’s actually at war with them and ares and I was like “??? no???”

[ornate tree]

it's giving I'm going to cast a love spell on Hades 😭

[ivory plume]

oh don't bring me back there.....

[spring epoch]

Omg😭

[ornate tree]

it's probably people just trolling and trying to get significance on the internet

[spring epoch]

On the sort of topic of ares he and Aphrodite helped on a prosperity and good health spell for me and my gf yesterday :D

[slow pendant]

aww thats great ❤️ i love that

[spring epoch]

They’re so awesome I love them sm

[slow pendant]

yesss agreed! love them both as well ❤️

[tranquil bronze]

IT WAS AN ARES DEVOTEE??

what the ass i dont think bro would be into that

[spring epoch]

Right😭

[stable yoke]

Offering mango bc test week

[spring epoch]

Oh my gods your space is so beautiful

[stable yoke]

Thxxx

[spring epoch]

Ofc :D

[blazing dune]

Heyy I am also a Hellenist and my parents are a different religion and I really wanna make a secret small altar inside my room. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it without my parents knowing?

Because my parents would NEVER let me do it

[shell musk]

hi could you please change your name to the regular discord font? so it’s accessible

as for your question, if it’s not safe to have any kind of hidden or small altar, don’t do it.

but you could put stuff in a shoebox, or a mint tin. you could put regular stuff in plain sight on your desk or shelf and just put trinkets in dedication

you could use social media platforms as an altar

we probably have some good stuff in either #1114061823377952809 or #1114059754709450753

[blazing dune]

tyyy, Its not that it isnt safe, my parents wont like flip out on me or smth, they just wouldnt approve or let me because they are a totally different religion. And I wanna have an altar to be able to pray to the Gods better

[ebon dagger]

hii my parents are also of a different religion so my altars are very subtle, ive got a small area of my room dedicated to each of my deities(like a corner of my desk or my nightstand), so each have a candle(ive also got just other random candles around so it looks like i just find candles aesthetic), and next to each candle is where i put my very small and subtle offerings, such as coins, keys, etc

[blazing dune]

thats really helpful, thank you

[ornate tree]

I had thoughts on "what is an altar"

I believe that the concept of what an altar is kind of messes people up to the point that they push aside any other option that isn't a physical flat surface with adornments and candles and items of importance on it.

In my opinion an altar is a place where you show worship of your entities in ways that fit your living structure. Why can that not be your shower where you take care of yourself, or your bed where you rest, a bench you rest at frequently on your runs?

Or even beyond the physical why not a folder in your camera roll where you shove images that remind you of a god/entity, a Pinterest board of your faves for them, a room in your animal crossing game?

Where do you feel drawn to when you want to worship? Why can that not be your altar as well?

And if labeling those things as altars bring more stress than it's worth again I still 100% agree altars as practice aren't necessary. But an outside look at what an altar can be hopefully helps folks who fall down the rabbit hole of making their practice look like aesthetic witchcore on Pinterest. Some may still want a space like that but the upkeep, the secrecy, or the vibes of it don't work for you. Unconventional in this case doesn't mean it's wrong, especially if it works for you.

[shell musk]

yes!!

[ornate tree]

i made that for a post somewhere else but the concept of it i think still applies here

an altar can be anywhere and can be anything

its a place for you and you shouldnt dictate what that looks like based on others. if what you can do isnt an elaborate thing like you see on social media thats fine! as long as its a place you can use to worship thats all that really matters

[blazing dune]

mhmm, Idrc about the ones on social media, I just want smth physical

[ornate tree]

yes but can you have something physical in the way you want it

if not settling for less isnt a bad thing until your in a space that you can do so freely

[blazing dune]

Yeah, I just want a small little altar to pray everyday with a few trinkets and the Gods in it

[ornate tree]

i would look into the altar resources Lysander (supreme pizza) linked to you and check the info on travel altars!

[blazing dune]

kk

[blazing dune]

I was praying to Hephaestus to help me finally light up my stupid ahh lighter that is so hard to light, and my lighter stopped working and it broke after I prayed😭

[crude kelp]

He really said "I don't think there's any fixing that. Just get a new one atp"

[blazing dune]

frfr, but that lighter worked perfectly normal, the problem was me, I just sucked at pressing the button 💀

[spring epoch]

Ugh was it one of the weird big ones

I always struggle so hard with those

[blazing dune]

yeah it was

[spring epoch]

They’re so hard to turn on for what!!

[blazing dune]

exactly!!! My parents thought I was weak af because I couldnt light it

[paper nymph]

the answer might be obvious but my brain is hazy right now so: how to pray / make offering when you’re like in a train or something

wait i could. pour libation water in toilet that’s. feasible i guess.

[crude kelp]

I mean depending on how traditional you want to be, you also don't have to make libations. You can just think your prayer at them or write it down or something

[zealous jungle]

hii, usually when i’m in the train i play music and dedicate it to Apollon in my head or think about him along with a prayer !

[paper nymph]

i feel bad asking without offering something 😔
in this context it’s just asking for safe travels :]

[paper nymph]

oh i can do this too. thanks :]

[zealous jungle]

ofc ofcc !

[ornate tree]

prayer also doesnt need to be requests.

if your on a train you could also do something like picking up litter at rest stops/stations when you get off/on

ignore the libation bit lmao i meant that offerings dont have to be physical things 😭

[cedar radish]

my offerings tend to be things like that. i love doing things to honor them because i dont (usually) have to set time aside to do it

one of my offerings for athena is going to class 😭 and if i’m learning about something i think pertains to other gods as well i include them in that. like agriculture studies id devote to athena and demeter for example

[blazing dune]

I put an offering as my special coins that I collected over the years, and I took one of the offerings to school today to help me in school ig, and it was the birthday of my friend that i like a lot (in the friendly way, she has a gf) I kinda forgot to buy her a present so I gave her that coin.. Is that fine or is that bad that I gave her an offering?

[ornate tree]

hmmm i mean it kinda depends on you and your deity?

like i have things i have as offerings that are meant to be given to others as a method of sharing but if thats not how you are doing it it may not be welcomed

[blazing dune]

dang it, I really didn't have anything better to give her at that moment, can I pray to the Gods today to forgive me then?

[ornate tree]

i would actually rec having a convo with your gods on this matter.

im only basing this off my experience and personalized expectations with my deities.

yours may not even require that you ask for forgiveness for it

[blazing dune]

kk ty

[cedar radish]

having my altars be digital is fun until i accidentally put something in the wrong pinterest board and have to go move it .. ITS SO EMBARRASSING 😭 like sorry no that’s not meant for you..

[ornate tree]

NO ME OMFG

this point I've made another one which is "assorted god board stuff" so that way I put everything I want in there and then I move it 😭😭😭

[cedar radish]

sometimes (happened today) i accidentally put something in lord hermes’ board and i have to move it and i feel like im just using him to pass notes 😭😭

LIKE ITS ALMOSY ALWAYS HIS BOARD TOO??

[ornate tree]

he's honestly like "ooh new thing for me "

'haha got your offering"

[cedar radish]

hermes tax

[ornate tree]

LMAO

"it's mine for a little bit"

or that thing when your siblings steal your food: "i had to check if it was poisoned"

[cedar radish]

YEAH

or like teachers saying if you have a snack you need to have enough to share with the class

[ornate tree]

😭

& "the class" is almost always Hermes

[tranquil bronze]

i was in class earlier this morning and wasn't focusing, so when the tutor asked if there was any questions for the upcoming assignment all of a sudden i get flashed by the sun and i locked in

i think lord apollo wants me to focus 🧍‍♂️

[ashen fable]

My biggest pain in this religion is finally getting slightly comfortable with worship THEN GODDAMN TIKTOK SCARES ME AGAIN ABT IT

LEAVE ME ALONE TIKTOK

[ashen fable]

If it's any constellation I put apollos mini statue on Achilles altar and didn't notice for like 3 days

[zealous jungle]

beat the shit out of tiktok

[paper nymph]

me with reddit

tumblr..

i’m no longer a helpol but i remember the community was kind of crazy tbh 💀

[zenith ridge]

Before there was gods, before life, death, skies, light, stars and planets.
There was only thr blank void of space, called abyss. (I think the abyss is asexual like plants and or some creatures)
And one day, it reproduce with itself and there was a big bang. (That's where we get the big bang from)
And the particles of the energy of the big bang. Created life, created death, and also created the first 2 deities (for greek).
the first deities, known as primordial gods, were Chaos, Gaia, Tartarus, and Eros, with Chaos being the first to exist, followed by Gaia (Earth), Tartarus (the Underworld Pit), and Eros (Love).
So I think how the world came to be was
the world emerged from Chaos, a primordial void, and then Gaia (Earth) and Uranus (Sky), the first beings, emerged from it, shaping the cosmos and giving birth to the Titans and other primordial beings.
And I do believe one day everything will go back to the abyss. And start all over again.
Not same as this life cycle. A different one... but unquie than the last.

[ornate tree]

it's an interesting notion!

not super sure that I agree but if it makes sense to you that's what matters

[zenith ridge]

Ye

[stable yoke]

Went out wearing my veil for the first time

I’m so happyyy

[hexed hamlet]

I need some advice on working with Aphrodite and Isis.

How do you know they are present?

I also work with Hecate and she seems to be more vocal.

[ornate tree]

can i ask what you mean by "more vocal"?

for me i dont really have a bunch of clairsenses around sound so i dont really "hear" my entites, i just know they are around

[hexed hamlet]

I should say more active than vocal.

It's hard to explain but I have a friend who also started interacting with Hecate that has had a similar experience.

We both had issues with our mothers being suffocating or overbearing.

Since we started interacting with her, our relationships have changed and they've backed off.

[ornate tree]

so what you're looking for is their influence throughout your mundane life?

the reason why I'm asking in the way that I am is because every interaction you have with a different deity is going to be different because they are not the same deity so they're not going to influence your life in the same ways.

and this also is true for people who have the same deity but have different relationships with them. Hekate in all honesty is not very prevalent in my life in the way that she appears to be in yours, she's very mellow she doesn't really interact with me that much but I do have interactions with her.

and this is because she's not one of my main deities although I don't necessarily believe that she's like lesser in terms of importance

sometimes you just have deities or entities that are more prevalent in your life than others that help you in more subtle ways. expecting the same kind of interactions between two different deities is probably going to be disappointing long term.

[tranquil bronze]

chat i heard a raven when i was hanging my clothes out on the foyer,, they're never near my house or near me in general until i started worshipping lord apollo lmao

i think he's becoming more present in my life yay

[ashen fable]

REDDIT SCARES ME I HATE THAT APP

[hollow coyote]

Tykhe is soooo sweet 😭 like, I have gotten her lockscreen (from 3 for my three Ladies) all day, each time I open my phone, bam, dice are staring back at me

maybe I should do a poem for her...

hmmm

new ideas

brb!

[ashen fable]

Does anyone know where I can find any resources on Achilles worship specifically. I found a lottttt about Odysseus and Heracles but I don't work with them so I don't really need that. It can be physical books also btw I'll manage a way to find them somehow

[ornate tree]

iirc we have some hero worship stuff in the resources

[worthy bay]

Hi

[zealous jungle]

hiyaa

it’s so early i can’t believe i’m up 😣

[scenic atlas]

Hello! So I woke up this morning and I realized the sun was shining really brightly into my room, like it has been for a few days, so I said "Thank you Apollo!"

And

My suncatcher directly started shining on me? I'm so confused idk what this means but I think it's good?

[ashen fable]

I wanted to share my offerings to Hero Achilles for today cuz I can't physically make myself to make food(I ate out before coming home) :
A shark tooth
A very old coin(by old I mean ANCIENT it's barely holding on)
A braclet that reminded me of him
A bandaid
And a red crayon

[ornate tree]

ooooo these sound great!

[ashen fable]

I don't know where I found a crayon I don't own crayons💔💔

[wooden echo]

i just got the best idea ever. Devoting good sleep to Lady Aphrodite because good sleep is 'beauty sleep' (and getting a good nights rest is self care)

[ornate tree]

yeah!

[wooden echo]

it's thursday which is typically associated with Zeus!! I want to do something with/for him but i'm not sure just yet! maybe i'll light his candle while i clean and just talk to him

[novel fiber]

What is the basics of learning Hellenism

[tough nimbus]

I mean hellenism is wide af

I think the most common approach is knowing some names beforehand like Zeus, aphrodite, etc, and reading into their myths and stuff, and from there expanding into new names and creatures that may appear and catch your attention

also if you identify there is sth specific in your life that's recurrent (idk a color you se often) or if there is sth you are particularly interested in (example art) then there is probably someone in hellenism that's related to it so you can research and maybe feel connected to them

in the end it's a lot of reading and finding connections, there's a LOT so don't worry if you don't know everything right away, in fact there are things/stories/names you may come across and don't feel attracted at all so you may never fully learn about them and that's okay 👌 find the things that you want to learn about and don't overwhelm yourself, you will have time eventually to expand your knowledge slowly if you end up liking it here

[novel fiber]

Are there books I can looking to rather than online due to online can be misguiding

[tough nimbus]

I would say for spirituality books tend to be more problematic, ofc you can look at them but authors have tendencies to appropriation and stuff like that

a lot of stories when it comes to paganism and cultures that have been hidden or attacked during history didn't have access to public books so if you limit yourself to books you won't hear what silenced voices that were actually a part of that religion/culture had to say

anyways there ARE books and I'm sure we have recs here (I'll go look for the link) but you should always cross reference and read about the authors beforehand

I'm pretty sure we won't have authors recommended that we don't trust but you should always take a look yourself

[tough nimbus]

#1114061252247945320 message those are book recs and this #1114061252247945320 is the channel with more resources if you want to check it out

[wooden echo]

adding onto what others have said already, i'd look into the pillars/principles of it as well

[ornate tree]

from my understanding the pillars arent required bc what they are differs entirely based on who is writing them

they weren't (from my understanding) used in traditional practices and are a recent thing from neopagan practices

[wooden echo]

i'm not too sure! When i did my research they came up a lot. It was just greek words with the translation, At least from what i found. i feel like it's still important to know but it's just my advice ^^ /lh

i hope i worded that right

[ornate tree]

yeah no i get what you mean. however the people that came up with the pricipals were problematic as fuck and a lot of hellenists take issue with how the principals are pushed to be a sort of "greek set of comandments" when thats not how hellenism works and not how greek people practiced. they are solid if you want to use them but they arent a requirement and acknowledging that they are new age/neopagan thing is really important.

[wooden echo]

ooh i didn't know that! Yeah everyone does it a little differently but it won't be wrong if you don't use them since yeah i agree that's not how it works! I personally like to incorporate them in as it's basically just good morals but to an extreme kind of? But yea i agree!

i just realized the way i worded that comes off as me saying you have bad morals if you don't use them (which isn't true). i should've worded that differently but i hope you get what i mean

[hollow coyote]

there are supposed to be principals in hellenism?? hwat??

[ornate tree]

this is what im talking about: https://www.tumblr.com/khaire-traveler/776947137387905024/i-couldnt-find-this-in-your-master-posts-but

the pillars are a new thing

[wooden echo]

ooh i see

[ornate tree]

some people still use them! but they arent requirements

like i personally dont bc i dont find i agree with them fully so its not something i want

[wooden echo]

i mainly only incorporate Xenia and Kharis but yes i agree

[hollow coyote]

what are those? if u dont mind me asking

[wooden echo]

there's i think 4 or 5.
Eusebia (piety): a relationship with the community that involves being pious (which means devoutly religious)
Organikotis (kinship): a relationship with the community that inlvolves being a good member
Dikaiosyne (justice): a principle that guides the communities interactions with others
Arete (virtue): a value that guides how people live their lives
Xenia (hospitality): a value that fosters social bonds and a sense of belonging
Kharis: the concept of reciprocity, or giving to the gods in exchange for their favor and help. the centre of the relationship between gods and humans!

these are the ones i know of

i may be wrong

[ornate tree]

so the pillars are these ideas that people in ancient greece would follow these concepts of hubris and such to the letter in order to worship the gods, however as the link i posted states and this is actually a more distinct post the person that created the concepts was a massive homophobe and the greek people did not have a singular concept of a unified religion like christanity did.

a lot of these things can have issues like Hagneia: "purity before the gods" what happens if im depressed and physically cannot clean myself or my room. am i no longer allowed to worship or contact the gods? am i now "bad" in their eyes?

[hollow coyote]

oh, I thought we only had to follow Xenia, Kharis, be good people, and have common sense. does it change with each person?? or something like that?

[ornate tree]

of course this doesnt mean that people that use principals or pillars are bad/have a moral complex but that if you decide to use them you should be aware of both your limits and the origin of these things

kharis and xenia arent required

they are nice if you want to use them but its not a requirement

again these concept of there being "principals and pillars" are a new thing

[hollow coyote]

ohh, okk, I though Xenia cause I was taught to be nice to visitors, but Im not nice to them if theyre bad to me (which is what I understand from xenia)

[hollow coyote]

ohhh ok

and kharis is being nice to our deities right?

[ornate tree]

like if thats what you want to do thats okay but im stating that its not a requirement to do/gen

[wooden echo]

i thought Kharis was required cuz it's bonding with our deities? /genq

[ornate tree]

again no none are required which is my main point

its not a requirement

like yes you should/could/can be nice and bond with your deities but its not a requirement

people work with deities without bonding constantly\

[hollow coyote]

ohhh ok, thanks

[shell musk]

this is where reconstruction comes into play. you’re allowed to use and modernize different parts of hellenism to suit your own practice and belief system

like i’ve never followed the “pillars” and have experienced 0 problems in my worship and practice

[feral bone]

Hello, I'm a new witch / Hellenist, can anyone give me tips on how to start? I think I going to need to be I the broom closet for a while, since my parents wouldn't agree with it.

[wooden echo]

research!! Research it as a whole and then branch out to myths, specifics, deities, etc! Hellenist also isnt the correct term since that refers to the culture not the religion (unless you are of that culture). The respective term would either be Hellenic Polytheist or Hellenic Paganism (there may be more but those are the two i know of). Id def use the resources in the server to your advantage as theres so many! For witchcraft id recommend seeing the resources in this server! Theyre super helpful and i love going through them. I wish you luck! <3 /gen /lh

[feral bone]

Omg thank you so much!! Your help is greatly appreciated!! Also sorry for the slip up a thanks for correcting me

[ornate tree]

we have #1114061252247945320 for the religion and id start with #1114060085224808468 and #1114060224924491907 for witchcraft stuff

[feral bone]

Thank you so much!!! I'll have a look now 🙂

[ashen fable]

Making devotional outfits is so fun

Might be one of my favorite devotional activities

[ornate tree]

oooo that sounds fun!

[night nacelle]

Hi everyone! I'm new to the server and to Hellenism.

[spring epoch]

Heyy!! I’m the person from literally a few minutes ago lol

Btw omg your altar looks amazing I saw the video of it

[shell musk]

hello hellooo

[night nacelle]

Hiii! Thank you, it's small but I got some stuff today to add to it.

[spring epoch]

It’s huge compared to most of mine

The little skeletons are to die for they’re so cute

[night nacelle]

Bath and body works, I got them for Halloween decorations last year who knew it could come in so handy 🤣

[spring epoch]

Omg ofc 😭 my devotional perfume for Aphrodite is from B&BW

[night nacelle]

Poor lady Athena and Lady Aphrodite they are still small, but I wanted to learn more before having multiple altars

[spring epoch]

Yess that’s smart. I made the mistake of getting hyper fixated and making a ton at once. Not smart

[night nacelle]

I am using Strawberry pound cake from B&BW for Aphrodite

[spring epoch]

THATS MY FAV!!

It’s my glamour magic perfume :3

[night nacelle]

I almost did that until a friend told me no

[night nacelle]

Smells amazing!

[spring epoch]

Yess I have the soap and everything

[night nacelle]

Same! I gave my extra to Lady Aphrodite I figured she would like it. It's pink and smells wonderful.

Almost half of my altars are things I've already had on hand

[spring epoch]

Mine too. I like to buy them trinkets when I can though

Like I’ve recently been getting into ocean magic so I bought some seashells and a cute little fish tray as an altar dish

[night nacelle]

That's what I do. I wanted to get some colored candles for them but all the ones at Walmart were broken or ugly 😭

[shell musk]

did i hear ocean magic 👀

[night nacelle]

Aww that sounds so pretty!

[spring epoch]

Yesss the server guide is so goated

[spring epoch]

Dollar tree! They’re really simple and plain so I draw on them

Here’s Hermes’ candle for example

[night nacelle]

I need to go shopping over there so badly. I had to get bird food so I wanted to look at their candles and they were destroyed

[spring epoch]

Omg what

[night nacelle]

That's awesome

[spring epoch]

I get so much stuff from dollar tree

I spent 32 dollars today there 💀

Also I will be using this as an excuse to show my haul… it’s all so pretty

[night nacelle]

Like 20 bucks for a pack of pink candles but they were broken and ugly

[spring epoch]

That’s horrible I get all my candles from dollar three

[night nacelle]

Gorgeous

[spring epoch]

LED ones work great too!!

[night nacelle]

I'm going to start shopping over their

[spring epoch]

They have a whole like spiritual section thing with the candles

[night nacelle]

Damnnn I'm definitely going to have to go

[spring epoch]

Like incense and oils and holders but that’s it

Oh and jars

Even mini ones

[night nacelle]

I've been looking for mini jars!

[spring epoch]

Yes they have options of mini jars too!

They have corked, metal lidded ones, mini baby corked ones

[night nacelle]

Ohh that's amazing!

[spring epoch]

They even have the jars for those little oils kinda things

I’m meaning to buy some soon so I can make cleansing oils

[night nacelle]

I have been using baby oil and herbs to make oil for my candles 😭

[spring epoch]

That’s smarttt

[night nacelle]

I have a question I saw someone use a rock with the Deities symbol painted on it, does that work instead of statues, what is your opinion on that?

[night nacelle]

It's all I have so it has to work

[spring epoch]

That can work just fine yeah!

You can even use little pictures of them. Like small chibi drawings or even pictures of stuff they like/are represented by

Like I didn’t have an image of Hekate for a while so I doodled a little spider and put it on there til I got her statue

[night nacelle]

That's awesome! Imma do that I bought some paint markers today

[shell musk]

agree. in my experience the gods are very forgiving in how you worship them. they understand that we can’t all afford elaborate altars, or are in a safe space to practice openly!

[night nacelle]

Yeah I live in a Catholic household, idk how my mom would react to seeing Greek Deities status 🤣

[spring epoch]

They get it dw they’re all really sweet

[ornate tree]

I have like 0 statues now that Dorito has stolen toy Hades

😔

[spring epoch]

Geez I remember when I first made Apollos altar I just gave him a big glittery rubber duck

[ornate tree]

poor toy Hades

[spring epoch]

I had no images of him, just some trinkets and a glittery duck cause he said he wanted it😭

[spring epoch]

My friend has a little Lego Zeus and I think it’s the best thing ever

[night nacelle]

My first offering to Hekate was a Ada Wong duck 😭🤣

[spring epoch]

That’s so cute😭

[night nacelle]

It's still on her altar next to a ghost buster duck 😭

[novel fiber]

I haven’t connected with my deity team in a while.
Decided to start reconnecting now.
Wanted to reconnect back with Diana and Hestia, but I put away Diana’s altar

Started listening to some music I know she liked

Immediately felt her vibing to it

[night nacelle]

That's awesome!

[novel fiber]

The fact that she stuck around is great

[lavish flame]

I started jotting down ideas a while ago for a Terraria mod i wanted to work on in my free time and now I have like 100+ Greek god related items listed and zero c# knowledge 😔

[night nacelle]

Anyone else gets overwhelmed with learning about different practices?

[novel fiber]

Oh I definitely do

Thankfully all practices are a lifetime

So you’ll never stop learning

You can take it easy

[night nacelle]

I take a week for studying and a week off so I don't get overwhelmed but then I feel lazy 😭

But I found the cutest chess knight for Athena, I figured she would like it since chess is a strategic game. And I also got 4 x 4 canvas to draw their symbols sorry I'm just so excited

[cursive phoenix]

I keep pulling cards that are related to lady Athena and every time I do a reading she always asks me to worship her

And the thing is I have no room for her but I'm so confused why she wants me to worship her bc I don't plan to make an altar for her

I don't dislike her I think she's awesome! But I'm just confused and help/advice would be great tho!

[ornate tree]

you're not required to worship anybody so although she may ask for worship it's not something that you need to do

it may just be that she's interested and is reaching out but your not required by any means to reciprocate

[cursive phoenix]

Thank you for the advice!

[ornate tree]

it could also be that if you do plan to/want to worship her any capacity you don't need an altar and she may not be thinking that one is required of you

[cursive phoenix]

I'll keep that in mind but either way thank you so much!

[wispy flax]

unsure if this has been sent but i found a calendar you can add to google calendar and they have a pdf version too
https://www.hellenion.org/calendar/

[ornate tree]

yup! we have that linked in #1114061252247945320 iirc

[slow pendant]

Welcome to the server and to hellenism! Happy to have you here 💖

[wooden echo]

I need it to rain to get more rainwater fr (i usually give Zeus rainwater on his altar when i can)

[night nacelle]

Hi thank you!

[night nacelle]

I do the same for Hekate

[novel fiber]

Welcome to Hellenism! ❤️ and welcome to the server!

[night nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-say-cheese-smile-creepy-excited-gif-6564757416229948468

[night nacelle]

Look what I ordered for lady Athena!! I'm so happy

I also ordered it for me of course, but once I read it imma offer it to her

[finite merlin]

ooh!

[night nacelle]

I'm so excited to read it and I think she would like it

[ornate tree]

oof I heard that's a monster to read! good luck I hope y'all both have fun

[night nacelle]

Thank you! I'm hoping it's easier to understand it's supposed to be like a study guide so hopefully

[upper inlet]

a friend made me a candle for nemesis :)

[cursive phoenix]

Nemesis is such a cool deity

A bag full of father Hermes' stuff and lord Zeus and mother Persephone's stuff on the ground while I was cleaning their altars

[night nacelle]

That's so pretty!

[ornate tree]

oh dante has no ping in their names for a reason friends! this does mean replies as well

[gleaming bluff]

I've been an Hellenist for a long time now, but I took a really long break from everything (3 months), I didn't regularly clean my altars or pray. Now I really want to get back at it again but I'm afraid that I would not be welcomed again since I left my witchy self for a long time without saying anything

[ornate tree]

you can take as long as brakes as you need!

we actually have a resource for how to reconnect with your guides after a long time away. but ultimately gods understand that we are human and go through things like burnout and inconsistent patterns of worship and prayer. we're not lesser than for having to deal with that

[gleaming bluff]

i really needed this, thank you SM now I feel much more happy and secure

[ornate tree]

this is also that thing I mentioned about the reconnection to your guides

[gleaming bluff]

TYSMM

I love this server SM it's such a safe and informative place :_):heartpulse:

[ornate tree]

[wooden echo]

I asked Aphrodite and Zeus to be my matron and patron and they said yes!! im so happy!!

[sage plank]

hello!! i am fairly new to hellenism. i'm still spiritually exploring to find what fits me and have been heavily interested in it. i didn't know where to start, and my friend said to not worry too much about it. i felt gravitated to work with apollo for some inner child work and healing and introduced myself by playing my ukulele and singing!! maybe it was too soon or direct but i asked how he would feel communicating with me (i was pretty nervous and still am) i pulled the fool upright + oracle for bashfulness 🥺 i think it's a good signnn? i asked next if there were other ways i could connect? and i pulled ace of cups upright + communication ... i feel really excited about this and wanted to share <3 i'm so worried about doing something wrong or accidently disrespectful or even being open about my spirituality so i'm hoping this server helps ease me into it :)

[ornate tree]

so I will note: the only way that you can be disrespectful is if you're doing so willingly.

like if you are openly and willingly being disrespectful the gods will know the difference between that and you making a mistake

[sage plank]

okay that is really comforting to know

i was also considering connecting with ares because i feel as if i've shoved anger down throughout a lot of mistreatment in my life especially during my youth and wanted a safe space to express that, a lot of it took a toll on my self esteem + ability to defend myself so i wondered if it'd be a healing experience trying to work with him. i love astrology and my sun, mercury, and venus placements fall into aries! yet i'm a little intimidated on how to approach

IDK if that's an overshare

but i needed to explain that Dx

[ornate tree]

yeah! and as for Hellenism we have https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114061252247945320 which is our resource channel on all things Greek/roman mythology/practice

you're completely fine Ares is a wonderful God for that!

[sage plank]

thank you again <3

[ornate tree]

[gleaming bluff]

Update!! I cleaned Apollo's altar, gave him a new candle as an offering, lit incense and I did a prayer.
The flame of the candle was really small, so I tried a tarot reading. I asked him what he thinks about me coming back into worship and he was really kind and nice with it (III of wands upright and the sun reversed). But then, I asked him for a card that represents him so I knew it was him and none of them appeared, kinda confused rn

Could it be that I have to recharge my tarot deck?

[shell musk]

that never hurts!

[night nacelle]

Quick question I have a bunch of history textbooks, I was thinking of offering them to Athena since she is the Goddess of wisdom. What do y'all think?

[brave ridge]

I think she'd love that

[night nacelle]

Me too thanks

[slow pendant]

agreed i think that is a great offering for Athena ❤️

[wooden echo]

I'm seeing a lot of owl things today. It reminds me of Athena! I sent pictures of them to my friend who works with Athena and she loves them!

[ornate tree]

pretty!!!

LMAO THE DUCK

[wooden echo]

yes i got it for my jeep

[hollow coyote]

awwwwww, the vases

[wooden echo]

just found these too

[wooden echo]

i got a crochet turtle and turtle bracelet for Hermes, a bottle of seashells and a seashell necklace for Aphrodite

[lavish flame]

I saw another crow this morningggggg it was on the ground and then went to my mailbox and then flew away cus I was leaving for school

[ornate tree]

ooooo

[lavish flame]

We get a lot of crows and some ducks here its always a happy moment seeing them

[wheat lake]

made the jump and was attempting to commune with dionysus- using dice divination for more straight forward answers, got confirmation it was him by rolling even then while I was asking about the goal/nature of our relationship my little cauldron thing… broke?

not been into shards or anything it was cleanly two pieces off centre

I ended up decided to roll three dice and I was using a resource from the server- the answers were 1-3(which I keep rolling)-4 which corresponded with inspiration, exploration and, discover/y

should I take the breaking as a sign (and if so good or bad) or is it just a coincidence

i want to take it as an indicator that if I’m going to commit to this i need to start fresh (since i used to use the bowl for angel prayers) but I don’t want to be an idiot 😭

[wheat lake]

tried some yes or no vetting questions and I kept getting weird answers that somehow fell out of yes or no so I threw salt and rosemary at whatever was talking to me and packed it up

[ornate tree]

yeah usually if I get an answer that's wrong at least once I kind of pack it up and toss it out

[wheat lake]

i don’t think i started right or did things in the right order

[wheat lake]

the scary part to me is that i had a moment when I realised shoot I didn’t cast a circle and I had to backtrack and i demanded anything that’s not Dionysus to leave 😔

i guess I wasn’t very commanding 🥲

[ornate tree]

oh I never cast circles but I do have hella wards

[wheat lake]

wards?

[ornate tree]

I'm glad you figured it out before you did too much

[ornate tree]

so a ward is a protection that is kind of long-standing and is meant to protect your space long term

do you have protections in place?/genq