Not able/ don't know how to flash 4 in 1 Zorro and having many problems binding Zorro to spi reciver

[shadow veldt]

I have a radio master Zorro 4 in 1 with a radiomaster ranger nano and have been having many problems flashing it. I also have a Darwin FPV tiny ape that uses an spi receiver in an aio FC which I've been trying to bind to the Zorro. I think I need help to flash the Zorro and help to configure and set up the Tiny ape.

[supple delta]

The Ranger is a 3.x device, so you need a 3.x-compatible betaflight firmware on the Tiny ape

!spi

[stuck scroll]

https://www.expresslrs.org/3.0/hardware/spi-receivers/
Flight controllers with built-in ELRS SPI receivers are not flashed using ELRS Configurator, the ELRS firmware is "baked in" to Betaflight. Thus to update your ELRS firmware, you'll need to flash the latest version of Betaflight for your FC. Betaflight 4.3.x is compatible with ELRS v2.x.x, and Betaflight 4.4.x is compatible with ELRS v3.x.x.
To set a binding phrase on a SPI receiver, enter it here and paste the resulting code in the Betaflight CLI: https://www.expresslrs.org/3.0/hardware/spi-receivers/#binding-phrase

[shadow veldt]

how do i flash the firmware on the tiny ape to 3.x

[supple delta]

your Zorro, since it's a 4-in-1 doesn't really matter in this case.. you just have to set up the model so it uses the ranger instead of the 4-in-1

https://www.expresslrs.org/3.0/quick-start/transmitters/tx-prep/

[shadow veldt]

I have external rf set to crsf and internal rf off

[supple delta]

for the tiny ape, your best bet is to use Betaflight 4.4

target is BETAFPVF4SX1280

[shadow veldt]

the lastest firmware option is 4.3.2

[supple delta]

becaause you'll need betaflight configurator 10.9.0-RC

I'd recommend using the Portable package. Extract it into a folder and execute the Configurator from there

[shadow veldt]

lol yeah i realized that just now, i have betaflight 10.9 and did the load firmware online option

ok I tried to flash the tiny ape with betaflight 4.4 but its saying failed to open usb

[supple delta]

use Impulse RC driver fixer or zadig driver fixer

[shadow veldt]

okkk lets go it flashed

so it flashed but then when I plugged it back in it gave me a warning that I didn't have an output motor protocal selected

so i selected dshot 600 because i assume that would work

[supple delta]

dshot 300

and you didn't saved a diff all dump from the old config?

[shadow veldt]

no

[supple delta]

this will mean you'll have to reconfigure it from scratch or you'll have to seek factory diff all dump

[shadow veldt]

as in just the beta flight settings?

[supple delta]

yes

[shadow veldt]

so what exactly should I do from here

i set the motor protocol to dshot 300 but thats it

[supple delta]

since you didn't save a diff all dump, acquire that first and apply it into this fc

[shadow veldt]

how do i do that

[supple delta]

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-big-spoon-funny-mad-evil-stare-gif-17762991

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0585/5841/5023/files/Tiny_Ape_CLI.txt?v=1647942226

copy-paste the content of this text file into the CLI tab, then press enter
type in save then press enter

Binding procedures for the Ranger and this SPI elrs AIO is here:
https://www.expresslrs.org/3.0/hardware/spi-receivers/

on the CLI tab, first execute the command set expresslrs_uid=0
press enter
type save again, and press enter
this set of commands clear the set binding phrase from the factory so you can either set your own or bind the tx and rx manually

[shadow veldt]

it says theres errors in the batch

[supple delta]

which particular errors?

[shadow veldt]

###ERROR IN batch: ERRORS WERE DETECTED - PLEASE REVIEW BEFORE CONTINUING###

[supple delta]

I mean which commands cause the errors?

[shadow veldt]

a lot of them

like too many to name individualy

[supple delta]

can you copy-paste the content of the window into a file and upload it here?

[supple delta]

you can ignore those errors for the most part..

do set expresslrs_uid = 0 press enter
then type saveand press enter again

[shadow veldt]

did that

[supple delta]

did it save and rebooted the FC?

[shadow veldt]

yeah

[supple delta]

then you should be able to bind now, following the guide in the SPI receivers page

[shadow veldt]

well the gyro is not working now

its not showing the quad moving at all

and wont let me test motors

[supple delta]

no gyro and accel icon up-top?

[shadow veldt]

noope

[supple delta]

but before it has those?

after flashing to 4.4?

[shadow veldt]

before I started this entire process ( flashing to 4.4) it did

[supple delta]

when you flashed to 4.4, zilch?

[shadow veldt]

the gyro was working fine before flashing to 4.4

[supple delta]

okay.. disconnect and go to firmware flasher, select the recent RC and the right target betafpvF4sx1280

[shadow veldt]

have all of that selected

[supple delta]

copy the settings from this screenshot aside from the version and the target/board

we will be reflashing the FC

[shadow veldt]

ok succesful flash

[supple delta]

do you have the gyro and accel after you "Apply custom defaults"?

[shadow veldt]

nope

[supple delta]

I'm not very familiar with how @fervent laurel does the DMA setups..

can you try reflashing 4.3.1 just to put it back to working order?

[shadow veldt]

sure

ok flashed it to 4.3.1

still no gyro

[supple delta]

can you go into betaflight configurator CLI tab and execute status please

[shadow veldt]

MCU F411 Clock=108MHz (PLLP-HSE), Vref=3.25V, Core temp=35degC
Stack size: 2048, Stack address: 0x2001fff0
Configuration: CONFIGURED, size: 3777, max available: 16384
Devices detected: SPI:0
Gyros detected: locked

OSD: MAX7456
System Uptime: 94 seconds, Current Time: 2023-01-14T07:03:59.887+00:00
CPU:0%, cycle time: 0, GYRO rate: 0, RX rate: 0, System rate: 9
Voltage: 7 * 0.01V (0S battery - NOT PRESENT)
I2C Errors: 0
Arming disable flags: NOGYRO BOOTGRACE CLI MSP

[supple delta]

@naive crane any hint regarding the Locked gyros?

can you paste these into the CLI tab @shadow veldt ?

timer

timer B01 AF2

pin B01: TIM3 CH4 (AF2)

timer B08 AF2

pin B08: TIM4 CH3 (AF2)

timer A00 AF1

pin A00: TIM2 CH1 (AF1)

timer B10 AF1

pin B10: TIM2 CH3 (AF1)

timer B07 AF2

pin B07: TIM4 CH2 (AF2)

timer A08 AF1

pin A08: TIM1 CH1 (AF1)

timer A10 AF1

pin A10: TIM1 CH3 (AF1)

dma

dma SPI_TX 1 NONE
dma SPI_TX 2 NONE
dma SPI_TX 3 NONE
dma SPI_RX 1 NONE
dma SPI_RX 2 NONE
dma SPI_RX 3 NONE
dma ADC 1 0

ADC 1: DMA2 Stream 0 Channel 0

dma ADC 2 NONE
dma ADC 3 NONE
dma UART_TX 1 NONE
dma UART_TX 2 NONE
dma UART_TX 3 NONE
dma UART_TX 4 NONE
dma UART_TX 5 NONE
dma UART_TX 6 NONE
dma UART_TX 7 NONE
dma UART_TX 8 NONE
dma UART_RX 1 NONE
dma UART_RX 2 NONE
dma UART_RX 3 NONE
dma UART_RX 4 NONE
dma UART_RX 5 NONE
dma UART_RX 6 NONE
dma UART_RX 7 NONE
dma UART_RX 8 NONE
dma pin B01 0

pin B01: DMA1 Stream 2 Channel 5

dma pin B08 0

pin B08: DMA1 Stream 7 Channel 2

dma pin A00 0

pin A00: DMA1 Stream 5 Channel 3

dma pin B10 0

pin B10: DMA1 Stream 1 Channel 3

dma pin B07 0

pin B07: DMA1 Stream 3 Channel 2

dma pin A08 0

pin A08: DMA2 Stream 6 Channel 0

dma pin A10 0

pin A10: DMA2 Stream 6 Channel 0

save

[shadow veldt]

yep

ok pasted

[supple delta]

did the configurator rebooted?

[shadow veldt]

yes

[supple delta]

connect back to betaflight configurator and see whether you got your gyro back

[shadow veldt]

nope, still no gyro

[naive crane]

The problem with these new targets is they are custom binaries that support specific gyros. I think wrong target has been flashed that doesnt support that particular gyro type, and the manufacturer flashes a custom hex with gyro drivers compiled in. I'd ask the manufacturer of the aio to provide a 4.4 hex with the diff

[shadow veldt]

so what exactly would i say to them

[naive crane]

Do you have any documentation of that AIO? BF target and gyro type would be nice

[shadow veldt]

FC&ESC：F411 1-3S 15A FC(Built-in ELRS 2.4G receiver)

not sure where to find gyro type or if its even listed

[naive crane]

That doesn't say much about the bf target unfortunately

[supple delta]

shares target with BETAFPVF4SX1280

but doesn't seem to have info on which exact gyro it uses

https://darwinfpv.com/products/darwinfpv-15a-1-3s-f411-ultralight-whoop-aio

[naive crane]

Here is an example

[supple delta]

says mpu6500 or icm20689

[naive crane]

It says

BetaFlight target: MATEKF411

That doesn't make sense cause this target doesn't have elrs drivers.

[supple delta]

yeah, that fc page is whacked.. different from the fc on the tiny ape

[naive crane]

@supple delta could you check the list of betaflight targets with 'darwin' in the name?

[supple delta]

there's DarwinF4sx1280HD which might be better suited..

[shadow veldt]

theres also darwinf411

[supple delta]

DarwinF411
and DarwinF722HD

[naive crane]

https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/12148

Yup, seems like Darwin target doesn't support this gyro, but darwinHD does.

[supple delta]

so this should work?
DarwinF4sx1280HD

[naive crane]

Yes

[shadow veldt]

should i flash it with DarwinF4sx1280HD?

[naive crane]

@shadow veldt do you have experience with flashing bf target

Do you know what unified config is?

[shadow veldt]

i dont

[naive crane]

Basically you need to be 101% sure you are applying custom defaults after the flash

[shadow veldt]

ok so flash it with DarwinF4sx1280HD and apply custom defaults one the flash finishes?

[supple delta]

yes

[naive crane]

https://youtu.be/AqsOBHyEFMk

Watch this video please, it's a solid resource by one of the bf devs

[shadow veldt]

ok, will do

yess

ok i hav egyro

[naive crane]

Cool

Let's see if elrs works 😉

[shadow veldt]

although, i still cant test motors

[supple delta]

do you now have stick movements in betaflight receiver tab?

testing motors, imho, is still at the end of the usual process for me..

you may have working motors, but if your receiver is still not bound, you still won't be able to fly.. 😄

[shadow veldt]

now theres no bind receiver button in the receiver tab

[supple delta]

were the right settings set?

[shadow veldt]

im pretty sure

[supple delta]

are you on 4.3.1 still?

[shadow veldt]

no

[supple delta]

or now with 4.4-RC?

[shadow veldt]

on 4.4

[supple delta]

go into CLI and execute get expresslrs

[shadow veldt]

done

[supple delta]

can you show us the output?

[shadow veldt]

get expresslrs

expresslrs_uid = 0,0,0,0,0,0
Array length: 6

expresslrs_domain = ISM2400
Allowed values: ISM2400, CE2400

expresslrs_rate_index = 0
Allowed range: 0 - 3

expresslrs_switch_mode = WIDE
Allowed values: WIDE, HYBRID

expresslrs_model_id = 255
Allowed range: 0 - 255

[naive crane]

@shadow veldt regarding motors, check what motor protocol you have selected in the ui

[shadow veldt]

dshot 300

[supple delta]

can you show us a screenshot of the Receiver Tab please..

is it not like this?

[naive crane]

You need to copy what @supple delta shown on his screen

And then bind button should appear

[shadow veldt]

lmaoo completley missed changing to spi

[naive crane]

You probably have a vanilla board with everything set to default

[shadow veldt]

NO WAYY

FINNALY

[naive crane]

🎉

[shadow veldt]

ok but its not sending power to the motors

this is so much closer but almost

[supple delta]

how are you testing? is the esc powered?

is a lipo connected?

[shadow veldt]

yes

[supple delta]

how are you testing motors?

[shadow veldt]

giving throttle input from my radio with props off

[naive crane]

Maybe he needs custom motor mapping....

[supple delta]

are you "arming"?
are you doing this while still connected to betaflight configurator?

[shadow veldt]

no

[supple delta]

you can't ARM while connected to betaflight configurator (on normal circumstances)

[shadow veldt]

im not connected to betaflight while trying

[naive crane]

Also you need to configure arm switch

[shadow veldt]

ok so im not sure how to configure and arm switch on my zorro

ive done it before on a flysky radio but im not sure how to do it now

[supple delta]

https://www.expresslrs.org/3.0/quick-start/transmitters/tx-prep/#switches-and-aux-channels

https://www.expresslrs.org/3.0/quick-start/pre-1stflight/#modes

[naive crane]

Yup, once done you'll have to also do it in bf configurator

[supple delta]

here's a typical Modes tab setup I use

[shadow veldt]

YOOOO NO WAY IT WORKS NOW