#Teddy's Nihil labeling issue now that she's come to Global (Not a CN player but it's there too)

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plain gate
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Teddy's Nihil labeling issue now that she's come to Global (Not a CN player but I see that it's a problem there too to this day)

Wished they addressed the Nihil energy icon on Teddy by outright removing it, her Equilibrium Shield shred comes from her Main Effect "Disruptor"... she produces no "Nihil" damage nor energy.

It's so misleading, to this day... she's still labeled both Dark & Nihil even in CN.

People that don't read or even those that DO read (because Kuro is known to make Typos or maybe even forgetting to even write/include some things. lol!) and still adhere to Energy Icons being completely 100% accurate & reliable in terms of what damage outputs are being put out, will be confused... when it comes to lending her a Nihil CUB &/or using a Nihil Leader Skill... because they won't enhance Teddy in any way.

It's not a problem and kinda inconsequential because she isn't Meta, but this will be a recurring problem for non-Nihil units that happen to have Disruptor, because if they follow Teddy's mislabeling pattern... they'll just get slapped as a Nihil unit as well. If they want to not mislead, be correct about it, and give proper sole credit to "Disruptor" as an Effect...

Please Kuro, REMOVE the Energy Nihil icon from Teddy and other characters like her THAT do NOT produce ANY Nihil damage.

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Make it very clear that the effect of shredding shields is from "Disruptor" an EFFECT that has no ties to ANY Energy Type of ANY Damage Type. The technicalities should be clearer, and any muddying should be corrected/removed to NOT further confuse players.

The Nihil icon on Teddy has ZERO purpose, except to mislead and/or to lazily point to saying that she can shred Equilibrium Shields easier than most other characters while SOLELY being a Dark Type user with ZERO Nihil Damage Output... when it's just the effect "Disruptor" doing all of the work.

An analogy I would put out... if you know Pokemon, the move Scald is a "Water" type move that can cause Burn, which is an oddity because the Burn Status effect usually comes from "Fire" type moves... despite all of that just because Scald can inflict "Burn" status effect, does NOT mean it's also a Fire type move... it's still JUST a Water type move... in the case of Teddy, she's a Dark Type that ONLY produces Dark Energy Type damage, and within none of her kit does she ever produce nor inflict ANY Nihil type damage... it just so happens that all of Nihil characters, ACTUAL Nihil damage characters, also happen to have disruptor effect.

Hope it's addressed at some point for correctness and for people to pay more attention to "effects".

steel kayak
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Wait until you hear that they almost made it say Lucia was part lightning

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They quickly rescinded that

plain gate
# steel kayak Wait until you hear that they almost made it say Lucia was part lightning

Oh because of "Electroconvergence", if so... yeah that would have been really dumb, especially if she doesn't output any Lightning damage... lol! lulw

It would be the Teddy mislabeling/misleading problem that would muddy the waters in terms of team comps, leader skills & cub choices, unless you really go into the details of it to find out that she doesn't output Lightning damage at any point or at any special state of her kit.

Hopefully in a QoL update they just take out that Nihil symbol out of Teddy's profile... and they don't do a repeat for future Meta characters that may have "Disruptor" while not being Nihil characters.

steel kayak
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She doesn't deal any lightning whatsoever and she didn't at the time they said she was lightning

plain gate
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Yeah, more of a reason for them to do Teddy a solid, and in some QoL future update, just take that Nihil icon away and emphasize her ability to shred "Equilibrium Shields" is because of her "Disruptor" effect, and nothing else.

...and not repeat the same mislabeling, that's only there to confuse and lazily point out ONE mechanic aspect... while bringing a whole bag of problems alongside it that come by actually not being that specific element. lulw

Not a rant, just pointing out something that should be changed, just like any mistakes, mistranslations, etc that come at times with game updates... not a bug, just a weird decision that should be corrected later.

fringe eagle
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like there are people out there who cares about these?

plain gate
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Even the patch loading screen advertising all three characters, betray Teddy's in-game portrayal as a "Nihil" character. lulw

fringe eagle
plain gate
# fringe eagle like there are people out there who cares about these?

One of them here. Just like people apparently cared about Electroconvergence.

It's not about whatabout-isms... it's about cleaning up misunderstandings, and misinfo that the game has in-game and it's only there to mislead/confuse players.

No need to be dismissive. Yes it's a small problem, but it's a problem nonetheless... and if this can be a problem that can stay without care, it can slowly bleed into a snowball of other mistakes that do matter a lot... because they simply sloppily do a lot of small things.

I didn't need to be confused to begin with... if they just left that Nihil icon out in the first place, I spent unnecessary amount of time considering and re-reading to see if I missed the Nihil part of her kit... when thinking about team comps, leader skills and CUB choices.

"Disruptor" is doing all the job, and that's all I needed to know through trials and the icon already being there as a Main Effect, right next to the Energy Type(s), which Nihil she has none of. It's messy, and should be corrected like UI changes and re-writes to make things easy to understand... at some point, key phrase "at some point" (because CN obviously has still not fixed it yet). There's no rush, but it needs to be pointed at.

Not kicking and screaming, just pointing out a problem of mislabeling that should be addressed that not only is not true of the character but it only serves to confuse. Simple.

I'm not reporting a bug, this is a game suggestion of fixing a 'deliberate' lie/piece of misinfo that's been there for longer than it should. So I wrote it under "Game Suggestions", and not under "Bug Report". Shouldn't be a hard fix.

fringe eagle
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ok I've actually took the time to actually the reading of all ur points... and yes I can confirm that u reasoning is right but my answer to this is Kuro seems to tie Void and the effect together

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Disruptor or wtv it is called

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So yes Teddy deals no void DMG whatsoever but in Kuro's thinking that doesn't make her less of a Void unit

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that's probably why they'll never remove the icon

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fun fact is back in the day while Teddy was released her dark icon was beside a "??" teasing a new element

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It would've made sense if that happened to globlul too idk