We want pvp

[hasty sable]

Add pvp pls

[late nest]

Option 1: own units. Whales bring '3 second PPC' setups and play rocket tag with each other for bragging rights, everyone else doesn't get to participate

Option 2: configurable trial units with damage levels that don't allow oneshots. Meta cystallizes in a week and from there on it's all Camus, forever (or XXIs, or Haicmas, etc - basically, some combination of invul and hard cc)

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game's not designed with PvP in mind, from the foundation level

[spring granite]

"i" not "we"

[little lagoon]

We

[pallid sparrow]

no we don't

[olive bough]

Not everyone. Who is "we"? And what's the purpose of pvp?

[late nest]

I mean, the purpose is that it's fun, it's just bloody hard to get right

ToF devs got pretty close, on release out of 15 available characters staggering 9 were viable in PvP, with three different meta tactics. Unfortunately, their networking and/or game engine turned out to be unequal to the challenge of smoothly synchronizing two real players - not sure if they didn't realize they needed to make it to competitive FPS standard or just couldn't afford to - so it ended up being barely playable due to rubberbanding. Dunno if things changed since then

[olive bough]

That sounds unfortunate.

[simple spear]

sounds good for game like pgr but this only for whales who already have a good pc and a lot and great chars so that will make this game have no f2p playeror maybe just for fun and dont add something like play pvp and u get special thing if this idc fr

[lusty bramble]

It's a pve game tbf but it wouldn't be bad to have pvp

Also why alot of dislikes?

[lusty bramble]

Or just remove p2w aspects in pvp lmao. But I don't think pve combat is gonna work for pvp. Maby add minigames for pvp. Like replace combat and model with dormitory models. It would definitely make endgame more enjoyable

[simple spear]

will if i whaled or spend on a game and the thing i spend for is useless in the game i will be mad like why i just spend money in this game
idk about anyone but i think the almost spenders will be like that

and for me myself idk bru i just need good ping and this enough for me im already have 400 ping in co op what if it was pvp i will just lose

[lusty bramble]

True but p2w already effect the pve part. If pvp is not skill based I don't think ppl are gonna play. Better then not having it.

[simple spear]

yeah

[trim inlet]

This is the worst idea possible

“PVP”

i have a better pvp idea

by doing our weeklies playing games or playing cursed wave, memory, or reciavito you can get something that rolls an level or item on a character you can select one time

it could be anyone but you build this character and fight with other people together with this character

theres no gacha or anything you just build this chaarcter and get extra bc probably 500 each week but play this permanently

I dont want PVP as in coming to the characters kits and ruining and having nerfs.

As for how the character gets built is how kuro decides.

Or there could be a team mode red and blue and we can fight with those teams like co op.

Maybe tournaments could happen too? Or go for something similiar to ww? By fighting and also using boss skills.

We need to know that this will not include every character so it could be Lamia / Crimson Weave the only characters with parry mechanics etc.

[lusty bramble]

It doesn't even have to be members. You can pvp with multiple enemies unit like strategy game or autochess

[trim inlet]

It would be cool if we could play as bosses.

In PVP.

Now your suggestion made this better.

We play as bosses.

Example is Radiant Marcher but PVP!

Since, pgr had radiant marcher/trailblazer playable for an event. It would be cool if we had Red vs Blue as a permanent game mode making two bosses playable and fight each other.

Red - Trailblazer

Blue - Lilith

Lilith will be easy to do as a boss.

[lusty bramble]

Yeh like hord and alliance in wow

[trim inlet]

Indeed. Well uniframes could be included in this event only too if kuro wants to change it.

[lusty bramble]

I bet it's gonna be cooler if there is more then 2 sides.

[trim inlet]

Indeed.

I would like Alisa Vs Ayla pvp or Lilith Vs Alpha.

It would be cool if these were characters only for the permanent game mode.

[lusty bramble]

Yeh

Idk dota 1 used to have limited amount of heros with 2 sides but they remove that part so It might not work

[olive bough]

Having playable bosses in pvp mode sounds fun, tho I'm not sure how it will work out

[lusty bramble]

U played auto chess before? Or rts games. Pgr used to have gamemode that let you play enemy vs enemy units but it's pve.

[trim inlet]

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[olive bough]

Like starcraft?

[atomic pagoda]

Speedrun PVP, who clears the stage faster

probably need to make percentage damage then to make it even

or make it destiny 2 gambit style

[thorn cosmos]

pvp would be fun but they would have to do a lot of balancing for sure...removing iframes from characters, changing their kits, etc

the problem gets worse assuming you use your own units- if the game gives you a set roster without whaleability I think it would actually be pretty fun, as long as Kuro solves the highly probable hacking and connection issues

there's a lot to consider when making a pvp mode for this sort of game- pgr was never meant to support pvp in the first place, so if they try now it would certainly be a big challenge. I would be really interested but it doesn't seem too feasible as of now unfortunately. Too many things to consider and too many problems to work out considering they would essentially have to do a rehash of pretty much every single character in the game. You'll have to factor in movement speeds, how characters close in, range of attacks/hitboxes, the presence or no presence of iframes, not to mention how important Super Armor and related effects could be, not to mention a whole host of other issues I'm not qualified enough to talk about

if pvp does eventually get added someday I would be very excited though

[trim inlet]

bosses is better option boss vs boss

[thorn cosmos]

imagine Lamia vs Lamia

i do hope they revamp the earlier bosses, their movesets are a tad bit clunky haha

[trim inlet]

true

[heady turtle]

Pvp idea; include all the characters but pvp mode uses the base stats so for pvp and pvp alone your characters are back to level one across the board and the damage and health can be readjusted, pvp in PGR can never be balanced the meta is gonna be alot stronger like it in any anime....it can be there as a non reward based mode kinda like the boss mode in Celia's class, no need for ranked pvp, a custom pvp and an unranked mode for close to nothing reward will be okay