#PGR need a more friendly early game and more event rewards an extra for voices in story mode

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full grove
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Hello i'm a Brazilian talking that.Unfortunaly i unistaled the game cause of poor phone and the other game have less gb
So, some of my colleagues have claimed that the early game of PGR are very hard, since of their words "we even get a pull there at the start of the game"
I already know that at the future we gonna get a early game new sistem but i still think if that is gonna be enough. I also called for more bc on the events to be more f2p friendly

For an extra i want to see some voices at the story for more impact and put a reason to see the story, besides that will cost more gbs

wise shuttle
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we do get a voiced story segment in...Kowloong metropolis, I think, and future BC gacha coating stories will all be voiced

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the main story being voiced is an impossibility unless somehow Kuro gets filthy rich, future story chapters are...Very, very long

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I wouldn't say no to more BC, but the game is F2P friendly enough already- you can get every new S rank if you play consistently

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as for the early game being hard...just skill issue, unfortunately

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PGR's designed to be a game with moderate to high difficulty, the game will not get easier

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have your colleagues tried the upgrade system? normally early game is a breeze, it could be that they haven't upgraded their characters enough

full grove
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E think early game to get sufficient pulls to at least the first banner of only 40 pulls

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Some of them are like playing 3 days and they dind't get much pulls

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And dropped later bcs of that

wise shuttle
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that's because they only played for 3 days tbf

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PGR isn't a game that gives you a ton of pulls in the beginning, but it is relatively consistent

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you get free 30 pulls for the beginner banner pity from just levelling up, but the rest you either have to farm slowly or use your black cards

full grove
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And about the rank s i agree that we can technally get every rank s but some rank s are very depentent of thisb6 star exclusive

wise shuttle
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yeah, for some their weapon really boosts their performance

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but I mean, this is a gacha

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not everything is going to be fair as f2p Luciasad

full grove
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I gonna see with my colleagues abt that

wise shuttle
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yeah, the game is generous but it's still a gacha...

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some arcs are better than others in terms of f2p friendliness, kuro always makes sure to put in a buffer patch to save at least

whole grail
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we get better game start in Balter patch in that there's an expanded tutorial, the new rookie event pretty much forces a viable team down your throat and the additional standard tickets let one hit rookie pity even without $1 pack, so that should make the start less painful

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even then, you don't really know the game until you've hit like 50, with at least a couple functional teams. At that point you also get access to RdF that lets you trial a ton of different chars

wise shuttle
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^ yeah, the rookie missions also add a selector up to much newer characters, not just the first 5 S ranks

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so you're guaranteed 3 S ranks pretty early on (starter selector, rookie selector, S rank from beginner pity)

whole grail
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for better or worse, the early game appeal really, really depends on how insightfully you've picked your first 2-3 standard chars

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Rozen was a perfect match in my case, I basically stuck through the pitfall of the mid levels and Kamui's crappy story arc purely on the rush of using her in combat. If you pick unwisely, though, it's either 'believe in us who believe in you' moment or join the long list of students that go forever silent around that point

wise shuttle
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yeah, the early game experience really is a hit or miss

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unfortunately the S ranks you pick will have a big impact on how you build your characters and teams in the future, especially if you're starting now

true relic
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I'm currently running through a new acc in different server (not JP or KR alikes)

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And in the new acc, I'm currently focusing on the main story and uh, yeah the early gameplay is difficult.

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It forced newbies to either quit or try hard to find a other way to get pass those early chapters without any trial character for you.

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I can say, the early game for newbies is punishing.

full grove
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oh so we have a real early game player that actually understands that

uncut needle
# true relic I can say, the early game for newbies is *punishing*.

What do you find so difficult about story mode? Bruh. I literally didn't have any difficulties, on the contrary, it was very easy. I managed to get enough story through just using Lucia Dawn (some stages say you need much more bp than you have, but with less than 1000-2000bp the game recommends you can pass very easily. When the story advances the bp level becomes more acceptable)

wise shuttle
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yeah, upgrading is a must in early game

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if you don't upgrade correctly it's rather difficult at times, especially chapters like Fallen Star which are just HP sinks

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the game isn't good with telling you what and how upgrades work and the multitude of ways you can do it though, so...rather unfortunate

true relic
# uncut needle What do you find so difficult about story mode? Bruh. I literally didn't have an...

Bruh, every newbies experience are different, don't compare yours with other who isn't good at playing it or those who can barely read english.

If Dawn carried you through out the game, good for you. But what about others? Like, someone who was unlucky pulled for Changyu or Sophia.

Or even to someone who is new to gacha game and didn't pull and only focus on the lore? That's literally me back in the day. I didn't pull for anything and only use the main free trio. I made many mistakes and even failed to understand the patch event, twice in a row.

I was lucky enough to have my friends told me to pull for Watanabe Astral in the event when they were newbie like me.

But before Astral was home, I had Nightblade and I didn't even use him for the early, it always the main trio. Simply because I didn't understand how his core passive work or his gameplay isn't my taste.

So the main trio carried me until they couldn't anymore and I had to pulled for another A rank which was Dawn. And Dawn carried me through all the stages with pains and tears, even carried me through the Memory section until Bianca Veritas.

So even if you think it's easy, it is not for others like myself. If it wasn't for my friends and the story, I wouldn't even keep playing the game.

thorny sparrow
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While it's true that not every experience is the same

It's not like it's the game's fault tbh

English isn't my main language as well and I didn't do well on early game, hell I cripple myself by actively using older units for fun till this day

As for the Changyu and Sophia part..that's unfortunately just skill issue you can technically still clear early game with only Changyu
Plus you forgot the S rank selector even if they were cursed a dps Luminance would carry just fine
Ember would also do fine in early game anything can carry just fine

Pgr is all about skill so even if you were cursed with characters like Changyu and Sophia if you actually cared about the game you'd still progress since it all depends on dodging
Besides story isn't even that hard matriel stages aren't hard either so I don't get the issue?

Also while it is true PGR doesn't give multi after multi it gives you constant steady supply of bc

So really I don't see the issue
Especially with the updated newbie missions in balter's patch

full grove
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i don't think that some rank s on the selector are suficient to carry the whole early game

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so i still waiting fo the upgraded newbie mission

thorny sparrow
full grove
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like tenebrion

thorny sparrow
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It's true he's quite clunky to use but not really impossible

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I myself picked Entropy and still am Tenebrion-less LivNervous

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If you steadily upgrade a team I think you'll be just fine
I don't really recommend waiting till balter to re start

true relic
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I'm global only, don't know about others.

Just because the game has no 'fault' does not mean it couldn't improved for better. Just look at PGR login screen!

Games are to be improves as time went on and new players come rushing in, not to be stuck in one place. Especially for a gacha game, it has to keep improving for better experience.

And if balter patch gonna improved for newbie, I'm fine with it.

Again, just because the game has no 'fault' does not mean it gets a pass for being lazy and not keep improving.

full grove
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and we have some players that doen't imediately search for video telling what rank s is the best

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they only whants play the game for the characters they want to play

thorny sparrow
full grove
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improvemente are mostly a good thing for bringing players

thorny sparrow
full grove
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a friend that i have only gonna back to the game if they improve the newbie sisem

thorny sparrow
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No it's only 10 minutes to do ppc wz and spend serum WanshiYank

thorny sparrow
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Karenina - Noan - Balter so it's quite close

wise shuttle
wise shuttle
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like others have said, you'll get more choices (and far better ones) with the new selector in balter patch and the free blue tickets from it (before this you had to farm or use black cards for the last ten pulls on the beginner banner)

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the experience definitely does get better in terms of how you're rewarded or punished for who you pick

uncut needle
full grove
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i dont say in question difficulty

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its in question in how hard u can get pulls on early game

wise shuttle
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rn it's kinda painful tbh, not really difficult but it is frustrating mainly because you need 40 pulls for beginner pity....but you only get 30 free

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of course you can farm the rest from operation guardians, or convert black cards, but it still does feel awkward

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you do get a lot of black cards from story, so it's not like your pull income early game is bad or anything

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all you're really missing is the black cards from weeklies, but you still won't be missing a lot if you play every day

full grove
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i think

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it's funny play with only the free characters?

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like i know some people did that

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but its a really rare thing

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even more since nanami storm are very less usefull

wise shuttle
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sorry, I don't really understand

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oh, people playing with the free characters only

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yeah, nanami is meant to mostly be a qte bot

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but it's not like the game will give you so little pulls you'll have to do that