#Who wants a new frame for the forgotten ones?

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somber wave
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As per title ^^ including Sophia, Changyu, Wanshi and especially Rosetta.

stuck elk
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honestly i wanna see yelena as a playable character

somber wave
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my first post here - hope all mistakes will be forgiven.
Tbh Rosetta's frame still holds its grounds and I love playing her through the main story - maybe that's what makes me a bit biased towards her.

rancid narwhal
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Agree with this one

rancid narwhal
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Does Kamui count? I know he has S frame already, but I miss him. Both his frames were fun to play

somber wave
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I agree i was thinking of him as well when posting - but i exclusively mentioned the ones who really dont have a second frame. Love Kamui fo sho.

rancid narwhal
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Nice, just like me Kamuikiss

limber schooner
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Welp, Watanabe got a new frame

rancid narwhal
blazing bone
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This one is kind of tough, because although I agree, I think we also have to be realistic.

There's already a lot of things they're trying to do, and with the limited character releases, you can only do so much at a time.

For example, we hadn't gotten A Ranks for a while, and recently we've finally started getting them again. A Ranks, while making the game better and more accessible to F2P, don't make NEARLY as much money for Kuro.

Not only that, but even the quality of the characters went up immensely, so to take time to make A Ranks look and feel good, while knowing it's not a huge return on investment, is really quite nice of them.

People want old characters getting new frames, but people also want new characters getting new frames.

It's good to want, but it's also good to be appreciative of what we have already gotten, and the fact that there's multiple contradicting desires from players, there's only so much they can do per character release.

In the end, I agree with most of them, although I'd argue Rosetta is low priority because of her leap in comparison to the others, and as someone mentioned Kamui could use a new S, as his release was earlier than Rosetta's. Still would like her to get one, but that's a long list.

I'm happy with the way things seem to be going, with the quality and characters chosen, so if they have a new character or an old character who hasn't gotten one in a bit I'm good, don't want to pressure them too much. DumbDawn DumbDawn AlphaChonk VeraSmug AlphaPeek

rancid narwhal
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Yeah, there's only so much that can be done

storm bone
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Wanshi's honestly good, he performs decently, has unique gameplay and a niche, so while I wouldn't mind more of him, I don't feel the lack here.

Sophia needs a leap more than a new frame imo. Her current one handles nicely, has a distinct style and Kuro has just fixed her ded look, too - all it really needs is either be a better QTE support or a better subdps. Since she gets off-field energy regen and a lot of her skills suggest swapping to her, it really comes down to making her worth switching to at least briefly vs someone like leap Palefire at same invest

rancid narwhal
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Agree with Sophia leap.

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What about leap palefire?

storm bone
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what about him? His only issue is that's he's bloody expensive for a budget team unit

rancid narwhal
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Oh gotcha. I maxed him already and yeah quite expensive. But since I like Lee Palefire, I'm all good

storm bone
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I'm pretty happy with Rosetta as she is, as for Changyu, that one I agree could do with a new frame, because his current one is in an awkward spot where fixing its primary issue would crowd out Chrome Glory in future patches, but not fixing it makes him a dead end choice that only people who plan to perma-skip Glory go for, so there's no good solution here.

Also, speaking of forgotten ones, Bridget's been around as long as Changyu, but she has zero frames to his one, so that's even worse

rancid narwhal
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Ain't she the support construct during Chapter 13?

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Or earlier and later

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I forgot which ones again

storm bone
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she shows up in Kowloong battle for the first time iirc

rancid narwhal
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AH

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Ok I remember now

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I could tell we agree with Changyu having new frame instead

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What do you mean by crowd out btw?

storm bone
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if he gets QTE shred in base kit while Glory's remains locked behind sig, it'd make it massively more attractive to go all-in on Kaleido with SSS Changyu compared to now

rancid narwhal
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oh

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Ah yeah, cuz Glory needs sig for QTE shred

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So basically, make Changyu have QTE ice shred so that he becomes a viable option for ice team IF the player doesn't have Glory + sig?

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Please correct me if I'm wrong 🙂

storm bone
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yeah, but they can't do it without undercutting Glory, it'd be like XXI vs Scire except Scire has no SS3 and her SS is just %damage. And his kit is sustained damage rather than burst, so buffing that on a tank would be awkward too

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it's like, he has nowhere to go that isn't already occupied by someone else, unlike Sophia, hence why a new frame might be the answer

rancid narwhal
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Yep sustained

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Okie I think I get it now, thank you

green canopy
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Don't forget Changwho, Kuro, pls 🙏

limber schooner
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Tbh im just curious if there will be new frame for Lucia LuciaOWO

dusty sun
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Dark Lucia up next

floral kernel
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I NEEEED A WANSHI ONE

ashen thistle
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Need new wanshi frame

rancid narwhal
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Agree with you two ^

toxic raven
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Seeing how it's basically granted for the popular ones get new frames, if we also get forgotten ones as S ranks there wouldn't be any space in meta teams for new faces; so maybe as a ranks or uniframes it would be fine ig

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toxic raven
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toxic raven
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But the other ones i do think it would be a wasted slot on a meta team that could have been a currently npc or new Char

rancid narwhal
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A good point yeah

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If new char, I would look forward to it if male

toxic raven
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I would like it to be one of the girl constructs or the mask guy i think his name was van haugurd or something

rancid narwhal
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I haven't see that yet. But yeh for me males

Do you have pic of that one you're talking about?

toxic raven
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Top right

rancid narwhal
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Vonnegut!! Yeah same I want too!!

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🤝

toxic raven
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Like for example him, ishmael or maybe even cinderlik

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Sophia and changyu have some fans

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But they got outted first in the eden fest

rancid narwhal
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Yeah so quickly too...

toxic raven
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So it's safe to assume these guys would be liked more as new s ranks by the wider playerbase

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Yes, before Celica in fact

rancid narwhal
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I already want and interested in Vonnegut

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I like his vibe and design

toxic raven
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Lamia is well liked, so i think we could see more of these not yet playable on the meta teams

rancid narwhal
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Yeah I also like Lamia

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I'm happy for her

storm bone
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cursed voiceover tho T_T

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it's a concern here, too, since the units are old, so the voice acting would likely be appreciably different on any hypothetical new frames

rancid narwhal
storm bone
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ye. Not sure to what extent, but the bits I've heard in the showcases weren't good

toxic raven
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Wasn't it on purpose to make her sound and look more waifu tho

storm bone
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I imagine that was the idea, and the look part is pretty decent, but as for sound, I found what samples I've come across thoroughly off-putting, so that failed badly in my case

toxic raven
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The combat audio and the lobby audio on moteyaba's channel sounds good to me

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Besides could always check Sophia's seiyuu in a recent anime to see if she still holds up