With no real way to reset or refund BC spent (not a big problem), if you pull something which turned out to not be worth all the BC you spent, or wasn’t enough of an upgrade, its a bit of a let down. As far as I am aware there are no beta-tests for global so we have no idea how a character would perform or synergise with our own current teams/upgrade levels. And even the tests in main CN server seem to be limited to very few players. Adding a way test characters yourself beforehand would be really great. It will greatly help prioritise what would be most useful for your team compositions and to spend BC on, since it is such a limited resource. I have spent a lot of BC on things which later on I found were not worth it, essentially being wasted for me which I could have saved or spent on other areas. Thank you.
#Please add a way to fully self-test damage, skills, team compositions before we pull characters.
silk kindle
signal totem
Uhh
I'm pretty sure there's a tap in each new event where you can test the character
For this one
"Glimmering Life" allowed you to test Solater
As well as teach you her passive
Also wdym a construct turned to be a let down? So far the S ranks released are all meta viable
hallow pebble
With no real way to reset or refund BC spent (not a big problem), if you pull so...
If you're talking about release characters, each character has a trial for Celica's class you can test them out on, not to mention an event where you are given the character as a trial that you can also use your own characters on (iirc).
Though they are limited (that you can't test different memory sets, synergies with characters you have unbuilt/don't have), they are still more than enough to give you an insight how a character can feel, and allows you to discern where this character can synergize well with.
If you're still unsatisfied, you can read ahead for CN patches that basically a year ahead of us. They already know the ins and outs of each upcoming character, and as previously mentioned: You can test them out yourself via Celica's class and the event if you don't like how they play
signal totem
If you mean the starter S ranks (launch S ranks)
That means you pulled in standard or Fate banner which...yeah you can't complain it's gacha and there's no guarantee what you get
hallow pebble
If you're talking about characters already released, well there's not much you can do except ask a friend for their acc/device to playtest them on, or maybe like, see from other players what they think of said char
silk kindle
If you're talking about release characters, each character has a trial for Celic...
Well you clearly didn’t get what I meant. Yes you can play the characters and get a feel for them. That basically tells you nothing of how they will perform and impact/improve score in Warzone, PPC and other modes etc. You can’t change their memories, add other characters to the teams, see and compare what improvement SSS+ has over SSS, SSS over SS, or is the 6* weapon worth the BC for yourself. If you know of a way to do that then let me know. Attached a screenshot of Celica’s Class - right at the start - Cannot edit test team. I would like a way to edit it, and is my suggesstion. Doesn’t help actually gauge a character and how it will perform with characters/upgrades you personally have, or your prefered playstyle. Yeah I can do it by pulling and upgrading stuff myself, but I am not going to be sitting here spending 200,000 BC on each character to see its potential or if it was worth it. I can write more if you wish.
hallow pebble
Well you clearly didn’t get what I meant. Yes you can play the characters and ge...
There is an event that actually allows you to play a trial ver. of the release char where you can actually add your own chars in. It was in The Last Spark and Evernight Beat Patch but I forgot if it was present in this patch.
Memories from here on out are practically just gated to the specific character, like how you can see with the Ezliabeth set having the 4-set piece bonus specific to her, or the Tifa set also being specific to her. If you're gonna be changing memories, its really up to experimentation which I don't think would even be fine for "beta" character.
I did already mention that, because global is so far behind, people have already made builds, optimal sets and synergies for these characters in all other servers, so that's your best bet if you really wanna see if the character you go for is worth it or not.
And realistically, no character is technically really "not worth it" in a sense that, even if you pulled for them, and invested on them, they still have value to help out in sections.
If you think this guy sucks in PPC, you can get that same guy to clear out the early stages for PPC if he is capable enough, or maybe use that guy in Babel, which encourage a lot of teams.
Like Yuuki did say, every S ranks released are meta viable, there's not really any unviable S-rank constructs.
silk kindle
And realistically, no character is technically really "not worth it" in a sense ...
I see will keep an eye out for those in future patches.
And yeah every S viable. But I am more interested in comparisons such as SS3 vs SSS3 Dark Karenina. And SSS3 Dark Karenina + SSS+ (A)Vera + SSS Dark Selena, vs SS Dark Karenina, SS Luna, SSS Selena - then the various combinations you can have for weapon resonance and see which is most worth. Or if SS dark Karenina is worth it over No.21 if she does almost as good a job. So I can save and pull for what performs better or who's playstyle I prefer, as I don't have infinite BC to spend on everyone.
Or Rosetta + Pulao + Qu, vs the upcoming Hanying + Pulao + Qu. Or them vs A Chrome with wep reso + Lightning Selena + Noan, vs 3 Transcendant team. Stuff like that.
Listening and reading CN is not the same as actually playing them yourself. Eg. I still don't see a comparison of SSS+ Bombinata with 6* wep and 1 reso (I think I like her moveset and playstyle more than Plume), vs SS Plume with 5* wep (same BC used) in Warzone, PPC, Norman etc. Or if SSS+ Ice Ayla has decent DPS vs SS Ice Chrome etc.
hallow pebble
I see will keep an eye out for those in future patches.
And yeah every S viabl...
If you're really looking for how they really perform, even by watching or asking around does that already happen since there are many who use the same deals or something, and get the same results, big stuff.
If you're looking on what you prefer for playstyle or something, you'll already get the feel for that with the certain character event stuff you already get. If you want to see who performs better and what, researching it is already enough, and while you don't get the feel, you understand the principles and basics on how it works
signal totem
Asking in Gameplay help will sort your problem out
Beta wouldn't help you as much as you think it will
People on YT already make character guides build and their pull recommendations as well as their S rank ups
For example
Cn Already exists and that's basically global's "Beta"
The people in cn figure builds and synergy as well as the optimal rank for them
Beta only lets a few of the players enter anyway so it wouldn't help as much either
meager barn
We've basically already known everything about optimal team building and meta shifts for the next year
hallow pebble
^
signal totem
Reading cn gives you an idea of what you can expect
Then you actually use the character and keep playing them until you figure them out
It's more of a "Skill issue" thing
I read everything Empyrea related but the whole 3 pings disoriented me but I kept playing her until I learned how to play her
Same thing with glory
Reading and playing are definitely not the same but that doesn't mean you don't benfit from it
silk kindle
I am already aware of all that and am a glb day 1 player. I have asked quite a few times, and yeah you can get a general idea, but noone I have asked so far has said in exact numbers that this rank and this combo is in the range of x% better than this, for x amount of BC spent. If you can tell that to me for eg. the one I mentioned earlier ' SSS+ Bombinata with 6* wep and 1 reso, vs SS Plume with 5* wep (same BC used).' and many others. Yes plume will likely be better, but by how much %? Now I don't expect anyone to spend hours and 300k+ BC testing all this for me, and I have asked in 5 places already without a real answer in %. Eg. 30-60k BC for 10% improvement isn't worth it for me.
Another example I pulled SSS A2 and SSS 9S in the first run but left 2B on S. All the guides said that all 3 SSS Nier is the next upgrade level over SSS A2 + sig, and also changes playstyle. So I pulled SSS 2B on rerun thinking it would be an upgrade. But in reality it wasn't really that much better than just SSS A2 & 9S I already had, to warrant the BC cost as it was made out to be from CN guides and vids - which I only got to know myself after spending the BC.
Similarly with SS Alpha vs old physical SSS+ (A)Bianca. I can clear Norman with Bianca much faster than with SS Alpha with my playstyle and characters/upgrades. But if you ask anyone, they will say Alpha is better. Of course at higher ranks, but I am not going to SSS or SSS+ every character, and at SS she wasn't that much better for me. If I had been able to test beforehand, Instead of spending 15k BC pulling for Alpha, I would save or get Bianca's 6* wep + 1 reso instead. So CN is fine for general idea, but not everyone has the same characters or upgrades. That is why a way to test yourself would be much better for me and many other players as well to save and spend BC more effectively.
obsidian vapor
I am already aware of all that and am a glb day 1 player. I have asked quite a f...
This isn't as easy as you think it is to conclude, nor are you even asking the right question.
As an example, you say you have SS alpha and SSS+ bianca. Now whats the % difference of damage between these two characters? You already have the characters and equipment on your account, no changes or sandbox needed. So the answer?
silk kindle
@obsidian vapor Saw your message late, since you replied to this 5 days after my post, and I don't frequently come to this channel. But sure that’s pretty easy to do. While I would prefer to use EX Norman final stage/Bollie Mine as my benchmark as it is the hardest mode, but since it is not available at the moment, I will use trial boss zone instead.
vs 8000 bp camu and my characters/playstyle/gear
Time to kill with sss+ Bianca in team 2min:45s = 165s
Time to kill with ss Alpha in team 3min:15s = 195s
195x100/165=118.1%
So it took me approximately 18% more time to kill the same boss with ss alpha vs sss+ bianca, after spending the equivalent of 15k bc on alpha, so not so much worth it to me. If I got Bianca’s 6* wep + 1 reso instead, the gap would be even further for the same 15k bc investment to each. (0 bc spent on bianca)
