(Resolved ❤) Core Gameplay Abilities Completely Disabled / Missing Settings

[lethal marsh]

On PGR mobile, there already exists an option for keyboard players to use an assigned key to activate "Basic Attack (Hold)" in settings. But not for controllers, meaning gamepad users are at an unfair disadvantage

The attack is crucial to gameplay of many construct characters... (for those unaware, most newer constructs in the gacha rely on it as their strongest or most important attack).

Example: Vera's spear, Luna's Spikes, and Glory's frost shield.
Controllers can't use these crucial attack/defense moves, giving them a big handicap on the scoreboard, and thus less rewards.

tldr- Players would appreciate having options to map gamepad buttons (like DualShock 4) to the action 'Basic Attack (Hold)'. The option is located in Options -> Keyboard Keys -> Button Position Settings. Issue is on the mobile version of PGR (iOS/Android) which most players use.

I want to help our community and improve the experience for fellow players.
Please help, Kuro!

Link that let's you see this thread: https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1058653285126512703

If you see this, PLEASE LIKE THE THREAD SO KURO WILL SEE IT!

There are also pictures of the hold attack being used below.
Thanks to any who took the time to read this thread!

Images of Vera using "Basic Attack (Hold)" Below:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944400732021461032/1067976220983173120/20230125_201532.gif
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944400732021461032/1067975026046939177/Screenshot_20230125_200853_Photo_Editor.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944400732021461032/1067975025551999006/Screenshot_20230125_200906_Photo_Editor.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944400732021461032/1067975037631610880/Screenshot_20230125_200822_Photo_Editor.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663286717985456157/1067983126653055096/image.png

[wide jacinth]

Do we have attack hold controller support added for CN version?

[lethal marsh]

I highly doubt it

[wide jacinth]

let's up this request

[lethal marsh]

hm

[lethal marsh]

how can we bring attention to this issue?

I edited my initial statement to make it more readable

But aside from that, more people need to see it

[wide jacinth]

thanks, and yes we need more hearts on the matter

more votes basically

[lethal marsh]

true

[lethal marsh]

you could try and tell others in #💬・pgr-general about this thread

posting the link
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1058653285126512703
in #💬・pgr-general might bring people into the thread

Unfair Advantage of Keyboard Players. Missing settings, GAME-BREAKING.

[weary rivet]

I honestly didnt know this issue exists

@lethal marsh So basically controllers arent able to hold attack? Like at all?

[lethal marsh]

They literally can't do it

[weary rivet]

Lmao wtf

Thats not a handicap thats straight up limiting what controller players do

I'll spread the word of this issue

[lethal marsh]

agreed

[lethal marsh]

I appreciate that. Telling others will be a great help

just so you know,

these threads aren't always easily found

so you can share the link to the thread if you want
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1058653285126512703

If this gets enough attention in the official server, Kuro will definitely notice

[weary rivet]

I have a direct line of contact with Kuro staff

Orange role perks yknow

[lethal marsh]

Ah

That's neat.

If you're able to use that direct line to tell them of the issue, that would be incredible

[weary rivet]

Let me shoot it over to em

[lethal marsh]

Alright, sounds good.

[weary rivet]

@lethal marsh Have you verified this issue to other controller players you may know of

[lethal marsh]

yes

[weary rivet]

Alright ill do some asking on my own before talking to Hazel about it

[lethal marsh]

PC players can run additional applications on emulators such as macros to circumvent it if they know how to set it up

but most people use the mobile version

[weary rivet]

Macros dont really bring that much to the table so i dont really think its a problem

Unless im misinterpreting what youre trying to say of course

[lethal marsh]

I meant that you can run applications that mimic pressing a key multiple times really fast, etc on emulators (PC). Which could artifically emulate the attack hold.

You kind of have to know what you're doing

I found setting up controllers on emulators kind of buggy, though tbh emulation in general is buggy (and I have a good PC).

[lethal marsh]

does that make sense?

[weary rivet]

Oh you dont need to use macros for hold attacks

But sort of weird at times

[lethal marsh]

not for keyboard, but for controller it's either that or changing settings in the emulator itself

some emulators don't need macro applications etc

depends on the emulator

[weary rivet]

Oh right right

But thats more of a bandaid solution

So yeah like i said imma get some confirmation of my own from controller players before trying to talk to Hazel

[lethal marsh]

alright, sure

I'd just make sure it's understood we're talking about mobile PGR not emulation stuff

I asked a fair number of people about it and some were confused because emulation could do it.

[weary rivet]

Right so this is controller mapping ingame right

[lethal marsh]

yes

[weary rivet]

And not emulator mapping

[lethal marsh]

that's right

[weary rivet]

Alright so while it might not be a problem now unless you play with a controller on the phone

It could become a huge problem when PC client comes up

Although, if i do remember theyre still working on controller settings for the pc client, in their first videos regarding the PC client

Ill ask if this is already getting considered while the client is still in development then

[lethal marsh]

My guild leader claims there is no long hold assignment for controller on the PC Beta. Unsure if true, they might have missed it

[weary rivet]

Thats because controller settings is not yet finalized as they said in the video

[lethal marsh]

yeah I was going to add, not sure if they actually tried controller

[weary rivet]

There might be a 2nd test with finalized controller settings but thats just speculation

[weary rivet]

Alright then thanks for making me aware of this

Ill talk to them about it if this issue persists in the PC client

[lethal marsh]

That is true. tbh, am surprised pc doesn't have this. PC clients generally have more keybinds than a console version of the same game.

For example, with popular video game franchise CoD, gamepad gets one button for both crouch and prone. PC has the option to do that or bind crouch to one key, and prone to another.

That's another reason I emphasized mobile.

I'm just hoping for an option on mobile since it's what I plan to always be my main device, and also don't know when PC client will actually arrive (am excited though).

I travel with gamepad + iPad. easiest way to transport big screen to play pgr. am seeing some people use backbone one/razer kishi with iphone tho. turns phone into a nintendo switch for pgr, cool stuff.

But Tablets run PGR with better graphics/speed. Many tablets are too large to properly hold while using touch controls. Reaching across the wide screen can be uncomfortable or difficult. Hence using gamepad. Of course, some simply prefer using gamepad as the way to experience PGR.

[lethal marsh]

anyway, thanks 😄

I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me and hear my concerns.

[lethal marsh]

Core Gameplay Abilities Completely Disabled / Missing Settings

[lethal marsh]

(fixed, thx Kuro) Core Gameplay Abilities Completely Disabled / Missing Settings

(Resolved) Core Gameplay Abilities Completely Disabled / Missing Settings

Thank you for patching this in, Kuro! ❤️

Purpose of thread is now resolved