Hiii

[zinc vessel]

I'm creating a banner for a discord server and I needed advice/help to improve it

Here's my inspo and what I've created

I wanted to a similar thing as this

But with these colors

Here's what I've created

[zinc vessel]

@visual patrol

[visual patrol]

you're on the right track, though i'd focus more of the background now that the wolf sihoulette is set

[zinc vessel]

what should i add ? also are the proportions right ?

[visual patrol]

as far as the wolfleg on the left, I'd bring that up a bit more

[zinc vessel]

@cloud cradle

[cloud cradle]

Ah wolf anatomy.

[zinc vessel]

😿

[cloud cradle]

Generally these look fine.

[zinc vessel]

what about the background and the rest should i change the color of the moon ? or add stuff ?

[cloud cradle]

I'm not sure which one he is referring. But I believe it's more about Contrasting background. Thought you alrd did that.

[cloud cradle]

Oh wait I thought these are yours

[visual patrol]

The thing about it is if you want it to look more like the two first ones, you need more sharp detail

[zinc vessel]

for the fur or for the sketch ?

[zinc vessel]

mine is the last one

[visual patrol]

Like you see the details of the feathers in the second one and the edges of fur in the first

[cloud cradle]

For the fur edges you could potentially use Chicken scratches.

Many artist encourages you not to because clean lines are better, but furs are kinda different.

[visual patrol]

Yours is softer in comparison ^

[zinc vessel]

okok

what about the ink ? should I cover the wolf with it like the first picture or should i just keep it around it ?

[cloud cradle]

I keep looking into the refrence and thought "these are already correct. What are there wrong?"

[cloud cradle]

OK so basically you did the composition decently. Our main focus would be on the wolf.

You can try making the background aka the sky darker for the contrasting effect.

If you want to keep the moon in the composition, u could keep it's current lightness or make it brighter.

[zinc vessel]

I darkend the sky yes, should I add more stars ? like in 3 and 4th image ?

[zinc vessel]

okok should I add details or will is it no necessary

[cloud cradle]

Idk up to u.

It will add a natural environment as it suggest there's no light pollution.

Which is why u could see the star and Aurora at the artic.

[zinc vessel]

okok I will do that then

Should I add trees or other elements ?

[cloud cradle]

I am not sure.

My opinion cannot rlly guarantee on what u want to get eventually. You'll have to go with the flow.

[zinc vessel]

good advice will do that

I'll show you guys my progression soon

[zinc vessel]

@cloud cradle @visual patrol

[visual patrol]

yes more detailed!

put more contrast of the white and blue background

and then maybe copy the wolf and blur is a bit and you should have the end result you were going for?

[zinc vessel]

what do you mean ? make it darker ?

[cloud cradle]

Contrasting background mean making the opposite of the focal point.

Take white as the focal point, if ur whole background is black or just "extremely dark color like blue or purple". The first thing you'd see is the wolf.

Lemme show u FujiChoco's work as example.

Notice how the background is Hella complex yet the first thing we see is the girl (or the cat)?

This ususally have something to do with Composition and Contrast.

Composition rule is something where we want our viewer to look at first.
Contrast making the opposite of something to help see that "focal point".

[visual patrol]

can you send the png?

you can play with some filtering this time but moonie is right

[cloud cradle]

I have no good example ;~;
All her work is complex

[zinc vessel]

yes I see so to make sure the wolf is the center of the picture

on my tablet the background is darker...

[visual patrol]

kinda like this?

[zinc vessel]

I get the idea yesss i'll tryy

[visual patrol]

I did the same with some texture brushes I had for the bg. Incidentally this might look a bit more wallpaper-y but it's just for reference

More to the point, the colors in those pieces stand out, and if you're going to use blue, make it pop

Make the blues indistinguishable from the gray of the wolf's outline

[zinc vessel]

I love this one

but the blues are a bit bright in my opinion compared to this

should i try to create an effect like this ?

or this

[zinc vessel]

better or not

[zinc vessel]

@warm bramble do you think I should do everything like this background ?

it feels a bit empty

[warm bramble]

Not everything as it makes no sense really

Too much detail can ruin a piece

[swift idol]

Id suggest making the moon have hard edges. Rn it just looks like its not an object glowing. More that it is a glow or something without a defined edge

[zinc vessel]

okokk

[zinc vessel]

alright I will just add a few stars

[zinc vessel]

@sour musk my drawing is supposed to be a wolf but looks too much like a fox

do you know how I can fix it ?

[sour musk]

let me seee

hmm

may i edit the image?

[zinc vessel]

If you need to draw on top I dont mind

yess

[sour musk]

so

first find the distinction between the fox and the wolf

if we look at the noses, fox has narrow nose, while wolf's nose is broader and more robust

[zinc vessel]

okk so I should make it more squareish

what about the ears

[sour musk]

and the ears almost never go backwards

if the wolf is scared that would fit the best

[zinc vessel]

okk

how can I make them straight in my drawing

do you mind drawing on top of mine ?

[sour musk]

something like this

[sour musk]

straight up tringles

you can make them a little curvy forward to give shape

asian depictions usually had such ear shapes (curvy to the forward) if im not mistaken

[zinc vessel]

okkay I get it now

[sour musk]

feel free to tag me if u have further questions

[zinc vessel]

I'll try with your tips and show you then