Week 20 - Cityscape - Box study

[novel hedge]

Welcome to Study groups!!
weekly study challenge to practice art fundamentals

for anyone who wants to join - here's reference!
Try to observe simple shapes, proportions and focus on drawing the reference accurately

WHEN POSTING INTO GALLERIES PLEASE ALWAYS ATTACH ORIGINAL REFERENCE WITH IT

general rules: use any technique, any medium and don't trace or over paint the reference!

this week study ends : <t:1755982800:f>

I will be here to help so feel free to ping me anytime
Have fun!
Reference photo source : Pinterest

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Black and white ref for traditional artists and value practice :

A little bit of theory :
the crucial part of this is perspective right?
this reference is example for 2 point perspective - we can see 2 vanishing points that sits on horizon line.
every single thing - windows, cars, stairs - follows the same rules as the bigger shapes
once we get rid of all the details on the building, we can see that it is only bunch of boxes with fancy details, but nothing to be scared of!

[novel hedge]

vanishing points in our reference are out of the format so the perspective is not as extreme
on this example below we can see how squished the box would be if we would move the vanishing points into the format!
how to find the exact vanishing points when it is out of the format u ask? well-
option 1 is example above, where I made the whole format bigger to show actual vanishing points
option 2 is learn enough perspective so you can guess those point and don't need option 1 👍

so now we can break down whole reference picture into simple very simple boxes and start from there!
Remember that studying from references is not about copying, but learning something
so take it as your opportunity to get into perpective studies and try something new!

here's template u can use and build your cityscape with it>:3
even 1 box is enough just try to practice it

your final work could be full rendered study of reference above or you can keep it simplified and focus on boxes instead! make it fun
if you focus on boxes - extra points for adding at least one detail on your box that still follows the perspective rule!! notice how my cat's heads are still following the line towards vanishing point!!

have fun u all

[chilly hollow]

omg my boxes come in handy to some extent

[slender bone]

oh my god, i did this in my art class last year, perspective and it made me was to strangle my neck

[outer moon]

[novel hedge]

also reminder for everyone : keep the chat study related and if you want to work on rendered study use included ref picture above, with random photos it can get chaotic

[novel hedge]

once u practice it more it gets easier I gave my boxes cat faces to keep them cute 🫡

[slender bone]

so fair

[zenith pond]

Oh is this a perspective exercise? I should try

[novel hedge]

yes! I've included template too if u want to use it
but u can make your own as well

[zenith pond]

I'll use everything at its best thank you :)

@novel hedge sorry for ping but I got a question

The challenge isn't just about posting the practice but if we make art of it then posting that too?

[novel hedge]

yeah, you can post wips and finished works as long is it is study related in other weeks we've focused on drawing full rendered study of the reference but in this one it's more open so u can work on rendered piece, only boxes in 2 point perspective or both!

[zenith pond]

Okay okay thanks :D
So I can either only drop in practices or finish what I want too, can I draw without a reference? Like original artwork?

[novel hedge]

you're welcome!!
yep, for original works or studies from different references use #978708583090892830 instead so it won't get chaotic here! if you want some feedback on those u can ping me in art help channel too

[worldly rapids]

Did somebody say boxes

[sudden olive]

Oh I do have a oil pastel of apples I forgot to post thats related to last weeks study

[distant ravine]

@novel hedge quick question
can vanishing points be in different distance from the center of the piece?

[distant ravine]

aight i studied some more reference and realized that yes

[mighty elm]

vouch for yor to make his own book

[faint lark]

Similar but different 🥲

[leaden crescent]

I've never posted for a weekly challenge before, but I found something I made for middle school art class assignment 4 years ago

Fact that our teacher taught us anatomy back then, instead of doing moyai structures like other classes—

I was playing fallout back then, the main focus was creativity rather than 100% correct perspective

[novel hedge]

Nice!! For the start of this practice I would suggest less details so you can focus on perspective more

[sturdy swift]

@novel hedge Am i doing it right? like i get prespective blind sometimes so wanted to double check before i continue (Its gonna be pencils today if thats all right)

[sturdy swift]

Also i couldn't find my ruler so pardon the slightly wobbly lines

[novel hedge]

Yessss nice job!!
It's actually great that u didn't even use ruler because u are practicing straight lines with it💯

[sturdy swift]

Thank you!

[sturdy swift]

I might just have ruined it @novel hedge can i do another one for today and takle this again tomorrow?

[sturdy swift]

Also advice on how to not do this in the future is welcome, this is why i can never complete cityscapes 😭

[novel hedge]

I think it's pretty good!! approved
(since it's whole week study feel free to draw it again)

[compact pasture]

wait this looks fun i should try out-

[compact pasture]

i think i do it right, didnt i?

mini version bc im not brave enough to waste a sheet of paper

[novel hedge]

looks good but it's tiny, try to draw it bigger

[viral stirrup]

@novel hedge

[compact pasture]

i drew it more detailed rather than bigger, lol

[novel hedge]

very cool nice work 💯

[novel hedge]

keep in mind that every detail needs to stay in perspective rules too! crosswalks too!

[compact pasture]

yeahhh right i forgott😔

[novel hedge]

but every effort is a good effort, good job as well 💯

[median ferry]

yes! finally some perspective 😈

[spice bear]

im scared but also gonna do it

[novel hedge]

did quick demo but I will have to do the full practice too

[viral stirrup]

cannot wait to see yors

[novel hedge]

counts for perspective practice but not study related, so only for gallery channels✨

[chilly hollow]

oh dear

[granite anvil]

For studies, is it beneficial to construct our own perspective grid manually or to use the program’s perspective rulers?

[novel hedge]

It is better to construct your own

[midnight pike]

i'm late to the study group

i'll start back at week 1

everything before this week is read only, so i'll share my progress in art-chat

[novel hedge]

yup! feel free to ping me anywhere if u need help

[midnight pike]

The hardest part is starting

[midnight pike]

This can help with perspective, thanks!

[chilly hollow]

@median ferry was the one who got me doing it

all credit goes to him

[midnight pike]

thanks hanyang

[median ferry]

np! take some credit too @chilly hollow you did the work. i just yap😅

[chilly hollow]

i did in fact spend like 3 days raging over perspective

[midnight pike]

I'm gonna do exercise 1 tomorrow and write tonight

[edgy condor]

@novel hedge I’m a bit late here, but correct me if I’m wrong…when I’m drawing the lines to the vanishing point it follows the trajectory of the original side until they meet?

[median ferry]

Means you're doing something right haha

[dire cedar]

@novel hedge when do i use 1,2,3 point perspective?

[sudden olive]

use 100 vanishing points

[outer moon]

Exactly And if you want to have a box sticking out another box or next to it, it would be something like this

[outer moon]

Depends on how many depth of direction (vanishing points) you need.
If you were to look into a hallway, 1 point should suffice where the depth would be at the end of the hallway. But what if you see the hallway split in two direction infront of you? Then 2 points should work.
As for 3 point, is more used for depth in height/below (with a combo of 2 point). Like looking up at a building or looking down from a building. There's also fisheyeperspective, which is 5 points. Hope it make sense

Sorry that I answered questions directed to Koi (sorry Koi)... I couldn't stop myself

[dire cedar]

Thanks buddy now i know

[novel hedge]

yep, Quuwo already explained general rules for backgrounds so I will add characters!
3 point perspective is the closest to our own view so it's usually used pretty often to make your work look realistic.
for character u can choose any perspective (so it starts to be a bit more complicated lol), that's why people use boxes (or other simple shapes) so they can figure it out on something more simple then body and then start adding form to it! Keep in mind that if you draw illustration, your character needs to be in the same perspective as your landscape
Here are some examples of breaking down figures into more simple shapes! For studying that you would need the same grid as we used for the cityscape above

[dire cedar]

Thank your for you explanation

Thats really helpful

[buoyant forge]

Not done yet but here what i got so far...perspective is so technical...blah...give me fantastic landscape anytime.

[granite anvil]

It’s hard to do it manually 😅 I forgot to think about scale too

[green pike]

This one took so long to do, I definitely lost my sanity a bit

The speedpaint has some flashes, keep in mind

[novel hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-perfect-golden-girls-dorothy-zbornak-gif-25327574

[autumn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/umora-weasel-cute-sable-blueberry-gif-22386661

[buoyant forge]

I like how you handle the detail on the windows and the bottom doorways...seems faster then what I was gonna do.

[green pike]

Yeah for repeating elements, I drew them normally then duplicated and transformed them into perspective, it saved alot of time

[buoyant forge]

omg that window trick...amazing.

[midnight pike]

I still haven't drawn the boxes of Week 1

[next fossil]

🙇‍♂️

[midnight pike]

How about I draw em today

[compact pasture]

LLmao the random letters

[burnt jay]

still learning i think i just need to draw more to get a better understanding i think

[fleet acorn]

slopped up and soggy

[novel hedge]

Deadline extended to : <t:1756069260:f> feel free to still post your result

[novel hedge]

yeah it's always about practice, you did a great job 💯

[burnt jay]

LETS GO

[midnight pike]

sorry guys, i'm on a break from drawing

[granite anvil]

i'll stop here XD infrastructure is difficult, I hope there's more studies on it in the future though

[faint lark]

Well ik I'm late..but can I post my goose study here?

[kindred dawn]

Maybe I should try these study groups. I do need to get better with my art skills.

Most of my traditional drawings are things from video games and most of my digital drawings look like a child made them.

[faint lark]

@novel hedge

[novel hedge]

Helloo older studies post into galleries or #🎨・art-chat / #978708583090892830 if u need feedback

[outer moon]

Drew my bird character with it, but don't think I will work on it anymore