Week 8 - Drapery study

[final sorrel]

Welcome to Study groups!!
weekly study challenge to practice art fundamentals

for anyone who wants to join - here's reference!
Try to observe simple shapes, proportions and focus on drawing the reference accurately

💖 general rules: use any technique, any medium and don't trace or over paint the reference!

this week study ends : <t:1748723400:f>

Photo reference source : Pinterest

I will be here to help so feel free to ping me anytime
Have fun!❤️

Here's my result with tips!

• don't get overwhelmed with it, check the silhouette of whole drapery and focus on that shape first
• once u will the whole shape, focus on biggest shadows
• notice difference between hard and soft lights/shadows

Self critique : I think I could have used more value variation and focus on more sharper shadows/light. Could have spent more time with it tbh

• timelapse

[warped plaza]

It's the first try of my life creating a digital art painting and all that stuff I even did it on mobile phone using ibis x paint it's good enough for my first try cause I mostly prefer traditional method I'd love to get your reviews on this one 🙌✨

[versed gull]

there is a lot to improve but, 😄 maybe later this week 😄 nice subject koi!

[warped plaza]

This is so sick 🙌🔥

A lot better then mine

Mine is 🫨

[primal crow]

I'm not that experienced hel-
;-;

[brisk sundial]

Give it a try, and we will help

Gotta start !

[fierce galleon]

Rip no chance for me

[wanton sail]

i messed up oof

i will try again later

[jovial lodge]

So i'll try this traditional, i'm a beginner. It's on a white paper though and not sure if I have to properly try to copy the photo or just my own version of it? Should I just start and share where I land?

[brisk sundial]

You should try to draw it in your style - keeping the general idea of the drawing while showcasing your own flair

Just give it a go, you can try multiple times too until you get it right

[idle vault]

wanted to try this too, never went into something else than character sketch, then i may have done lot of errors, taking any help

[ashen bane]

I love black and white stuff, its nice to do😌

[ashen bane]

My process oc art when its b n w

Just finished out line :p

[solid nymph]

:3
I spent around 1 hour on this one.

[ashen bane]

Looks like paint?

Ur lord that is so good!

[solid nymph]

All digital, using the flow instead of opacity helps a lot

[ashen bane]

Huh very cool that looks like paint tbh

[solid nymph]

thanku!!
Try out that brush and play with the flow, you will see similar results 🙂

[ashen bane]

What app do u use?

[solid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/photoshop-logo-gif-19617447

photoshop mostly now, but otherwise I use procreate and CSP 🙂

[wheat peak]

@final sorrel thanks for the study group, cuz i felt like just giving up but this made my head respawn and i actually tried to draw

[gritty scarab]

Finally finished the shortcake one but the other one closed already x3

[brisk sundial]

Hey there, it is appreciated but if the group has closed post to #🔵╭・digital instead

We want this to be a moving class, and there will be longer term study groups in the future too

[glossy jacinth]

I did my best to capture the basic shape of it since i couldn't get past that part on the last one but i have a feeling the proportions are pretty wacky

honest question: are studies like this a good use of my time as someone who doesn't really know the basics of how to draw?
like am i jumping the gun throwing myself into this when there's so much low level stuff idk how to do?

[final sorrel]

I think as long as u practice easy stuff alongside the difficult ones it's fine! Just make sure u won't get discouraged with drawing when difficult subjects won't turn out as good as u want them to be, it's normal but it can be disappointing for u and some people will not enjoy drawing bcs of that. So 80% practice of easier fundamentals and 20% for trying new/harder stuff

[glossy jacinth]

I'm not really sure what the easy stuff is beyond extremely rudimentary stuff like simple shapes and basic lines

[wheat peak]

hiya guys

[final sorrel]

simple shapes, line practice, 1 point perspective with guidelines. the drapery study u did is actually great too. u are learning how to break down detailed topics into simple shapes so great work and keep it up!!

[compact crystal]

Imo do always stuff outside your comfort zone but slowly ramp up the difficulty. Trying stuff thats too hard just leads to discourgement and art block

[final sorrel]

yeah exactly, the 80% 'easy' practice will definitely change overtime but as well as the 20% of the difficult stuff. Once u practice more u will find more stuff easy and u can level up

[compact crystal]

Important at the start is just to copy stuff and have fun. Starting with art theory and fundamentels right at the beginning just bores newer artists

My advice would be to just have fun and mess around a lot

Art theory can come later

[wheat peak]

@final sorrel what do i improve on my drawing, plz

[glossy jacinth]

yeah but with where i'm at even copying stuff can be too difficult
it's like trying to recite a speech written in a language you don't understand
sure the words are all there but you don't know what they mean, you don't know which parts to emphasize, you don't even know how to pronounce most of them so like you can try to give the speech but it still won't go super well

[compact crystal]

At the start its all about getting experience. Draw a lot, get into a habit. Thats the most important. Draw stuff you enjoy, maybe your fav anime character. I get that the result might not be satisfactory rn and that you dk on what to focus but rn its just important to get good at copying shape relationships. Start with some easier stuff like fruits if you prefer realism

[final sorrel]

helloo I thank u for joining<3
I think u did a great job in overall shape! I would recommend u to add darker value for darkest shadows to give it more depth (don't overuse it). U could work more with light/shadows and don't use lines for each shape but I think u did a nice job 💯

[glossy jacinth]

it's so hard to get into the habit of drawing
i do have ideas but they all seem like way too much for my current abilities
it makes me wonder if drawing for fun is the wrong way to start, like i'm doing things out of order and that's what you need to work up to

[compact crystal]

Just do easier things that you like. Just gradually increase difficulty

Since you have sanji pfp just draw the whole strawhead crew from one piece

Thats not too hard

[glossy jacinth]

I'm not good at gauging difficulty tho
There's been so many things i went into thinking they'd be easy and straightforward only to find myself stumped for days or weeks over the smallest things

[gritty scarab]

Ah ic ic tysm ^^

[wheat peak]

i fixed the lines and stuff

[final sorrel]

hell yeah

[wraith lake]

took a bit of work for this one
I don't practice fabrics that much

[grand meadow]

that was fun!!!

i love seeing everyones attempts at the study! it makes me think each one is a ghost holding up the sheets lmao

[lilac moat]

Took me 5 Hours...
Idk If the lighting is correct or not

@final sorrel Do you think the lighting I add is too bright or not?

[final sorrel]

hii the wall behind the drapery on the ref pic has less light (that's why it might look too bright) but overall I would keep it this way, it looks great 💯

[lilac moat]

Yey

I was thinking of making the same as the ref one, but idk how and what the correct color is.

So yeah I just use white

Since it is easier for me

[final sorrel]

yeah got it, in ref photo the light is slightly warmer but the goal is to try it and learn something from it, not completely copy it

[half bone]

First time ever doing something like this, only just recently pick up art again after 5 years so it might look wacky.

[digital depot]

Posting my missed studies + current study here
Can I get some general critiques?

[bitter ore]

whats goood im back with a quick 1.5h study

[grand meadow]

Michaelangelo is that you

[glossy jacinth]

@final sorrel how am i even supposed to continue from this point?
part of what trips me up so much about art is that it's never really obvious to me what should be done next, there's not an obvious progression from step 1 to 2 to 3 you just have to constantly choose what parts you're going to be working on as you go along and i'm just not sure what to do now that i've captured the basic shape

[grand meadow]

Try using the side of your pencil to block out the silhouette of the drapery instead of the tip to outline the silhouette

[glossy jacinth]

i'm sorry but i don't have any idea what "block out the silhouette" means

[grand meadow]

[wheat peak]

i have no clue also

[grand meadow]

Is this a prank

[wheat peak]

yes

holy shit just give sean the definition 😭

[glossy jacinth]

i thought the point of these studies was to help people learn how to draw
why are you surprised people don't know what you're talking about?

[wheat peak]

solid point indeed

[wheat peak]

do u want the definition rn from me or wait for rara to give it to u

[grand meadow]

Sorry I was planning to but I was looking up a picture to support what I was abt to say

Hold on

[final sorrel]

hellooo I've used your work to demonstate how to continue with this
1 is current state
2 add more shapes - look at ref
3 fill parts that are in shadow
4 add darkest shadows

[grand meadow]

@glossy jacinth left is what you did, right is what I meant you could do (fill in the shape with one colour, doesn't have to be that dark) then u can build add or lower yhe value as u wish based on the ref

[glossy jacinth]

shit that's actually really helpful, thanks

[final sorrel]

happy to hear that! I am glad I use digital so I can demonstrate like that quickly:D

[wheat peak]

btw remember to blur out lines so that they aren't obvious

because lines don't exist irl

think of it like

using the different shades to act like lines

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[final sorrel]

amazing work! I would have so minor tips but I think u are doing great as it is:D for simple shapes I would recommend sketching them out in wire frame if u haven't done that but as I said, u are doing great 💖

[glossy jacinth]

Ok i added more to it and i'm pretty sure this is an improvement but also i think i made the little look like a bit of a mess
Idk i need to take a break

[final sorrel]

hell yeah it's coming together!! 💯 I would adjust or remove this shape since it's a bit out of shape but everything else looks great!!

[tender relic]

Finally got it done!!

Also wanted to show a fold study I did on my own previously (hope it’s permitted here)
Would love some feedback<3

[final sorrel]

I have nothing to critique, it's great work💖

[tender relic]

Thank you🥺

[slender rover]

Do you have like a time-lapse video or smth? I'd like to see how you did it, it looks so freaking good!!

[tender relic]

Thank you!
Yeah, I can transport it from Procreate
Do you want one for the study from this group or for the ones I did on my own or both?

[jovial lodge]

This is flipping hard as a beginner haha

[jovial lodge]

I should have made a base shape first I guess 😝

[final sorrel]

and u still did a nice job

[jovial lodge]

Thank you 😇

[jovial lodge]

Are we allowed to show previous study's here or rather not?

[bitter ore]

I think not, post it in chat or appropriate art gallery

Alternatively #978708583090892830 if you want it reviewed

[final sorrel]

yep exactly what monsta's said, galleries or art help^w^

[gentle skiff]

Bit unrelated to this art study:
How do you remove linearts/sketches when your in the painting process?

Especially when that lineart size is a bit too big...

[final sorrel]

I usually make a sketch > paint with base colors under it > make a new layer above sketch layer and start painting (covering the sketch)
sometimes I just go over my sketch with colors and stuff but option 1 is a bit less chaotic xd

[gentle skiff]

Ah ic

How do you achieve hard edges when rending shadows?

Mine would sometimes leak out... cause I rely way too much on the smudge tool

[final sorrel]

if u use smudge tool u can use lasso tool with it to make clear borders!
I use mostly hard brushes but when I need to work with airbrush or smudge then selecting the area is pretty useful

[gentle skiff]

Btw whats the difference with lasso tool and selection tool

[final sorrel]

none:D lasso works like brush so u can freely select areas, other selection tools has some type of shape so it's not as free (elipse, rectangle etc)

[gentle skiff]

Ah... holy shit it all make sense now 😭

But how do you effectively use the free hand mode, cause my god its wobbly for me

[final sorrel]

it takes lot of practice tbh if u use csp u can set up higher stabilization (I am not sure if it work in different programs too)

[gentle skiff]

Ah csp has it... man i dont think Krita has it

Thanks for all the answers mate

[tender relic]

Sorry, forgot to tag you in the last message
But here are short versions of timelapses for both

[final sorrel]

I've checked and it looks like u can't do it
if using lasso tool is too difficult u can cheat a bit and make a new layer > use hard brush of your choice and fill the whole area u would select with lasso > select that area and hide that layer > work on your painting layer again
now u have a bit clearer selecting without wobbly lasso

[glossy jacinth]

I'm really not sure how well this turned out, i'm pretty abysmal at shading

Really shouldn't have needed to spend 3 days on this

[vast trench]

Here's mine. Tried to do it quickly too

[final sorrel]

I think u did a great job with this! from simple shapes to drawing that resemble ref pic is amazing progress
also time doesn't matter u've finished it and that's cool af

[polar gust]

It’s great you still tried after 3 days where most would have given up. Keep up the good work and don’t lose the spirit of learning

[stark juniper]

Hi, I decided to join, I'm not usually working with colors (I mean I use grayscale) but I want to learn colors too, do y'all think a base color palette like this is going to work for this practice?

Also I want to learn to not rush my drawings so wish me luck 😔

[glossy jacinth]

did doing this study actually make me improve as an artist?

[stark juniper]

I think 9t did, you finished your drawing and you managed to do it, it's just, one study is not enough to see bigger progress

[glossy jacinth]

I've made zero progress in the past year though

[stark juniper]

Maybe you have a wrong mindset? I'd love to help as much as I can

[glossy jacinth]

I'm just gonna stop talking before i make someone mad

[stark juniper]

You can dm me and talk as much as you want and I'll try to help

[stark juniper]

I wish it wad always like this bahaha

[final sorrel]

helloo yup it will work just fine! remember to wrok with bigger shapes and add details after blocking out everything!

[stark juniper]

Stu like this?

[final sorrel]

yup but don't overuse your darkest value

[stark juniper]

I'll add mid tones to it

Ty for response, I'll send finished piece

[stark juniper]

Finished, critique is really welcome

[slender rover]

tyy!

[cinder bobcat]

Another study down! I feel like I spent a disproportionately long time experimenting with blending on this one. Any tips, or is blending a “just keep messing around until you have a feel for it” kind of thing?

[bitter ore]

I used a transparent brush to build up the shadows on a base colour, then put in some highlights the same way on a new layer, using a transparent brush

Base layer of shadow shapes, then adding more depth to them

[strong spindle]

😭

im done yay

[cinder bobcat]

Thanks, that’s really going to help me out next time!

[ashen bane]

Got bored so I'll continue later with the shadowing

[bitter ore]

Don't know if this helps anyone but i'll post my process with layers

1. sketch
2. rough shadow under layer 1
3. background
4. refined shadows
5. highlights
   all done

[midnight zinc]

Just finished! I’d love some feedback

[final sorrel]

Helloo
the depth looks great! u could have add tiny bit more darker values on right side, since the light source is on the left but I think it doesn't take from overall quality. Nice job ❤️