Star Resonance Talent Planner - All Classes Up

[cunning sparrow]

Hey guys, I'm currently building a webapp for planning out and sharing links of talent trees for your class. It's still in a very early state but since I've finished the core logic for the functionality, the rest will come fairly quickly.

I'm opening up this thread for suggestions and opinions on what other features the community might want so that I can start thinking about how best to implement them while the project is still in an early stage.

Link to tool:
https://bpsrtalent.vercel.app/

Current planned feature list:

• (Core) View and build talent tree for both specializations of all classes
• Calculate and display how many overall stats are being given from minor nodes selected (e.g. ATK +5, STR +10, STAM + 30, etc)
• Calculate how many Talent Points and Arcane Seals are needed for currently selected nodes
• Display descriptions from all selected major nodes in one location to alleviate needing to click on each one individually to read
• Ability to share links to builds

Features NOT currently planned:

• Account creation or any kind of authorization. I want this to be a lightweight, straightforward tool and don't want to add unnecessary roadblocks that could inflate the time it takes to begin using it
  • This also unfortunately means that there will be no "save" function for builds. If you want to save builds, you save the link to the build in your own notes
• Displaying information about in-game terminology not present within the talent description itself
  • I'm talking about things like "Frost Crystal", "Thunder Sigil", "Wind Fury", etc. There are a lot of terms used in game that require you to click into them to view what they actually do. I don't have current plans to include all descriptions of all those extra terms. However, I DO eventually want to include a glossary for all of them at some point, just not in the first pass.

Also, if you are a developer or learning and would like to help out, I am open to sharing the repo so we can get this made faster!

[next reef]

Hi xiily great idea also im a huge fan

[broken breach]

This is awesome will definitely be using this resource for global launch

[maiden inlet]

This is great. Exactly what i was looking for. Thanks =D

[lyric nebula]

Hey I've been waiting for someone to do this, if you can turn it into a full build planner with gear, imagines, gem slots, modules etc it would be really useful

[cunning sparrow]

I have been asked for this by a few people but the issue is that I do not know the math that the developers use behind the scenes for the stat calculations on gear. I guess I could just use max values so people can see what is potentially possible to achieve, but if people want to theorycraft if swapping out Helmet X with Helmet Y will increase or decrease their ability score, unfortunately there's no way for me to determine that since I don't know the algorithm they use.

[lyric nebula]

It doesn't necessarily need to have ability score, just the max values for stats on perfection, it's more so we can create guides for what to go for.

[cunning sparrow]

that's definitely doable if it's just for showing

[cunning sparrow]

Update on progress of the planner
Finished all planned features in the list above. Additionally, added a feature where hovering your mouse over a talent in the side panel will point out where that talent is on the tree on the left.

Next Steps
With all logic working correctly now, I just need to compile all talent data from all classes and their specs. After that is done I will probably deploy the site at that current state so that everyone can use it quickly while I work on design polish.

Beyond all of that, I can begin looking into adding newer features (such as the gear/imagine/modules/etc. builder).

[worldly needle]

Imo, if you can swap that red color into another one, too much red there xD

(btw, great idea to have a builder, maybe a library to include for all different classes & spec, with those meta)

[cunning sparrow]

Yea it was just the placeholder since the spec I was working on was a DPS 😆 I'm open to all theming suggestions if you have any

[worldly needle]

well, really simple ones, background for classes, so you can keep red/green/blue & for the button, a color that's doesn't have those 3

just to have a background themed for classes & same button for all classes (less things to handle)

and you can keep the orange/green & other colors that are used already on BPSR on talents to show minus/bonus/everthing else

if that can help a bit for color decision & stuff, happy with it, if there's some better ideas, free to twerk or fully reject this o/

[cunning sparrow]

https://bpsrtalent.vercel.app/

current production build of the site, will continue to add more classes as i compile all the data and then work on polishing UI design

[upbeat halo]

if you need some more devs still, i can help out some

[cunning sparrow]

for sure send me your github and i can add you as a collaborator

[dire dome]

On mobile app is not operational

[gleaming hare]

This is a cool project! Fix the yeah the view port for mobile and it'll be awesome

[cunning sparrow]

yea sorry haven't focused on mobile design yet just focusing on getting main functionality working first

[hasty peak]

Nice test build, I'll def be using it , keep it up!

[mint hearth]

A search function would be nice. If you search for "Life bloom" for example, it would highlight all nodes that interact with that ability or passive.

[quick mason]

banger and so usefull, can we help ? do you plan do to all classe ?

[cunning sparrow]

thank you this is a great idea i'll look into adding that as a feature in the future

[cunning sparrow]

i am in the process of migrating my dataset over to a different structure since i was able to get ahold of the actual game data, but yes i am planning on doing all classes

[cunning sparrow]

============ Updates ============

• All classes have been added
• Added in URL compression to shorten shareable links
• Added feature where you can right-click nodes to mark them as a "priority" in your build to let users know a node is key to your guide should they want to branch off from it
• Beginning to migrate icons over to using actual in-game icons instead of placeholders, currently only Frost Mage is completed.
• A bunch of bug fixes

============ Next Steps ============
After migrating all icons over to in-game icons, I will begin redesign of the site to something more palatable (the red is killing me...)

If there are any more ideas anyone has please let me know.

Also, I did not have much time to extensively test if all trees are accurate to their in-game counterparts, please let me know if you find issues with any node connections or talent descriptions.

[severe zinc]

@cunning sparrow there seems to be an issue with the links it makes. I created a 70 talent point shield knight build and the link it gives me wipes 12 points off and links to a 58 point build

https://bpsrtalent.vercel.app/shield-knight?b=a1bAAAAA_85lNeepm_ here is the link it gives me for the build

this is what i see on my screen

it wipes the bottom of the tree off in the link

[cunning sparrow]

thanks for letting me know i'll take a look at what's causing that

[severe zinc]

np, its new and there are bound to be bugs, I've done a bit of coding and website design, so I know the headaches that can come with it. It's a good tool and I'm looking forward to see what else you do with it.

[cunning sparrow]

should be fixed now, bug in the URL decompression logic, thanks for bringing it to my attention

[severe zinc]

cool, thanks for looking into it

[cunning sparrow]

Star Resonance Talent Planner - All Classes Up

[cunning sparrow]

Site is now mobile friendly but anyone using it please tell me if you have some issues, I was only able to test it on my own device and some simulated resolutions.

Also made some minor design changes mostly to color themes and UI elements for now before attempting large sweeping design alterations.

[dire marsh]

Would love to see a skill break down on the Left Side

[cunning sparrow]

could you elaborate more on this so i understand better what you're asking for?

[next reef]

if u click this

[dire marsh]

That seems to only be available on Mobile? When I'm on desktop, it doesn't seem to show

[dire marsh]

So like all the class combat skills and if they are modified by talents based on what talents you take.

[brisk barn]

just a lil adjustment maybe to the scaling on the side so you can actually tell there's a sidebar regardless of window size. I didn't notice the skills section until I happened to full screen my window since it was perfectly cut off 🤣

I think the only maybe useful thing I can think of adding is if there is a way to input character stats and see the reflected number changes for dmg outputs, healing, blocks, lucky hits etc. would help maybe in comparing some talents idk

but yeah, looking good :D thanks for this

[cunning sparrow]

ah you mean like the extra definitions for the stuff you can't find in game like when you click into the words? i did specifically mention i wouldn't be doing that at first but that i want to in the future, it just wasn't in my initial scope because i was trying to get something workable out faster

now that CBT is over, i'll have to use translated descriptions from CN, but i think that will be something i do next when i'm not burnt out anymore

[cunning sparrow]

i usually use my browsers full screen so i didn't consider that people might use smaller windows, could you tell me what your monitor's resolution scaling is and about how large your window was? i just need to know the size breakpoints i should be targeting

[brisk barn]

the monitor it was on is a 1080p, the window was about 740p it looks like

[dire marsh]

Just the combat skills. With maybe a number counter by how many skills modify it, also so people can read what skill. If possible a notes section also?

[dire marsh]

1080p, typically my browsers are only 40-60% screen size. You could also relocate it to the same spot as all the other modifiers like the auto talent.

[dreamy roost]

I have a few suggestions, but I personally wouldn’t prioritize them. Instead they’d be nice to add after completion of the talent tree stuff.

1. Add options to select gear, equipment, gems, modules, etc. to show what stats your optimal build would have and be able to make better planned gearing decisions.

2. Add world boss spawn tracking, and a feature to link the timer to discord for heads up notifications (to be toggled on or off).

That’s all I got for now.

[wraith moon]

I think you're expecting too much from a TALENT planner.

For the gears stuff it would need a lot of data that I'm not sure is available.

[dreamy roost]

That’s why I said not to prioritize them, they’re just my thoughts and suggestions for down the road “potentially”

[wraith moon]

Yeah, I know. Just saying they seem too advanced compared to the planner.

Things like gear planner/calculator are usually done on spreadsheets

[dreamy roost]

I’ve seen it done before via websites, but I don’t actually know how the developer pulled it off.

[gaunt pendant]

@cunning sparrow hi are you planning to add i18n for multilang?

[gaunt pendant]

https://natsume.io/bpsr/

[wraith moon]

@cunning sparrow I don't know if this is a known bug, but I found out you can make invalid builds, at least in wolf spec.
After you get past the 50 point treshold, you can remove some of the pre-50 talents.

[tough burrow]

+1 on this bug

couldve pinged u on our guild but im shy so im here xdd, but jus wana say, ty for mobile port

[wraith moon]

Don't tell that to me

[tough burrow]

p sure i turned off ping

but yeah im talking to OP

since its OP's thread

[wraith moon]

Yeah, but it looks like reply to my comment 😂

[tough burrow]

yea nah

i only replied but i turned off ping to state to OP that the bug is also happening on my end

[cunning sparrow]

I would love to add i18n but my main problem is not having any actual text from other supported languages so the only avenue I would have available to me at the moment to achieve that would be using AI to translate. If that is something the community supports then I can start thinking about adding that in. Otherwise I would need help with localizing text from willing native speakers.

[cunning sparrow]

Addressing in order:

1. This was probably going to be the next large feature I was going to add, but I'm thinking how best to implement it considering I don't know the math that is used by the developers to calculate values in game. It would probably be used more for making goals for yourself to achieve rather than checking if gear A or gear B affects your stats more positively.

2. I don't 100% know how boss spawns work but from my experience I believe they are on a set timer from the moment they die wth each Line being independent of one another. This could be pretty hard to track since on CN right now there are upwards of 100+ Lines and there is no direct API to request for those timers or track moments of death. If the spawns were more standardized (like say at every hour on the hour or every half hour) then I could give an estimation but at that point you could just check your clock and know at a glance.

[cunning sparrow]

• @wraith moon Thanks for letting me know I'll look into that now that I've got time, I think I should have a fix up within the hour and let you know if you could test it for me

[cunning sparrow]

@wraith moon @tough burrow okay fix should be up, let me know if the issue persists

[wraith moon]

Unfortunately it's not exactly fixed. Without the requirements met, I can't put new points into the post-50 talents, but I can still do something like this https://bpsrtalent.vercel.app/marksman?b=a0bPAAAAA2SlOFFf7VypPAAAAAAEAEBACYBS

or even this https://bpsrtalent.vercel.app/marksman?b=a0bPAAAAAyCEIEEZzX_pPAAAAAAEAEBACYBS

[cunning sparrow]

ahhh i see you're removing points from the first tree and placing them in the second one okay that helps me understand the issue better

[wraith moon]

No. I just spent all 70 points and then removed everything that doesn't reset the post-50 points.

[cunning sparrow]

including the base tree correct?

[wraith moon]

yeah

[cunning sparrow]

okay yea that still helps thank you

[wraith moon]

You just have to block removing pre-50 points completely if any post-50 points are used.

[cunning sparrow]

yea that's what i did

fix should be up in a couple minutes

okay check now

[cunning sparrow]

i've made a change to when the site changes from desktop -> mobile navigation as a short term design solution for how users like yourself use browsers in a smaller window, let me know if it works out okay for you

[wraith moon]

Yep, works now, thanks ♥️

[gaunt pendant]

Of course, I'm not asking you to make a translation, whoever wants to will do it. The main thing is to give the opportunity

[cunning sparrow]

do you know what locale you're looking to support at the moment so i have a good starting point to work on?

[gaunt pendant]

RU 🫡

[cunning sparrow]

i'm not connected with any of the RU communities, if you are in touch with that scene would you be able to ask for help with l10n?

[gaunt pendant]

Yes we have a community and I personally could do this

[cunning sparrow]

perfect!

[tough burrow]

working on mobile too, ty again

[brisk barn]

hmm, it looks the same to me...
actually wait, ok so if I make it even smaller, it swaps to the mobile design but there's like a 300px zone where it doesn't show the sidebar or switch to the mobile version either. outside of that it works as intended :D

[daring stump]

About world bosses they all got a fixed spawn rate every hour. Some spawn on x:00 others on x:30.
If they dont get killed they just stay alive else they respawn.

Also rather than new features I would also rather like the info off the underlined infos on talents more usefull.
And maybe the classes skill info to read the basic skill what it does. Sometimes I see a talent which improves a skill but dont know the skill anymore. That way I can plan a build completly without going ingame. That would be huge

But very impressive work so far. Been really helpful already

[cunning sparrow]

Yea the extra underlined info is what's immediately next on the list since it's adding on to what is already there, newer larger features are separate from that.

About the boss spawn rates, I did remember reading something about how they spawn at every hour or every half hour, but what happens if one dies within seconds of a spawn time? So say for example Muku dies at 1:59:59, would another spawn immediately one second after? Is there a grace period for when a boss should spawn after it dies?

[cunning sparrow]

Yea I was thinking it was a bit too small to swap to mobile so I might make the breakpoint slightly larger

[cunning sparrow]

I made the change, so your window should switch to mobile at a larger size now

[daring stump]

Do u think a skill tree of each class is a lot work? I think i heard u extracted the client so the info is already there? Since that one is directly related to the talent tree id definitly favor this one after the underlined info. Well if there were something to help with I could but no idea how to extract the client. Else I could sort of prepare the info in a format easy for u to import

[edgy halo]

Yes, the times are fixed and if he dies 1 second before, he spawns again at his fixed time, which is what we also had in the beta at the beginning with Iron Fang