STOP DOING DUNGEONS FOR LEGENDARY WEAPONS

[restive ore]

Well, you still need lv12-13 Artisanry (depending on class). Which will cost a decent amount if you don't wanna spend your stamina on leveling it, since the no stamina crafting gives shit xp.

[covert gust]

No you dont, its the first thing you get in artisanry

[restive ore]

I mean that's for purple weapons.

And melee class weapons are in smelting btw.

[covert gust]

Oh, yeah you need to get to level 12, but I get about a level a day from this, so 7 a week, plus the four from the quest, so you can have it in the first week

Which means you can catch any of those 4 classes up to 5k/6k range. I didnt mention smelting because its not AS cheap and easy, although it is also cheap and easy

[restive ore]

Level a day? You don't wanna use your stamina on it. Just craft as much non-stamina stuff as you want and you can get it day1, with enough investment.

[restive ore]

But smelting is also needed for weapon upgrades later, since it will cost more when lv4+ unlocks. So getting some levels on that is worth the cost (or farming).

wait. Nevermind. You prolly don't need smelting levels for any gear upgrade mats.

But you can also craft armor in smelting.

And the rest of gear in Gemcrafting. So you need to level them all anyway

[covert gust]

Why not? Using stamina is how you get access to talents which can be used to improve other skills?

And I'm not saying DONT use other life skills, just that this one is the easiest to go through

And if you plan on using any of these 4 classes as an alt, its better to just level artisanry

[restive ore]

Because you wanna use your stamina for other life skills,to get important mats.

BUt I guess you can buy those. They're not expensive

[covert gust]

Yeah I just buy mine and you can still just do the quests which is where most of the leveling comes from anyway

Also I plan to do commissions for people that dont intend on doing life skills, trade luno or other items if proper trading is made in trade for legendary gear

[restive ore]

I don't think trading gear will happen, but we can hope.

[covert gust]

Pretty sure crafted gear isnt bound

[restive ore]

Have you tried?
Either way, I don't think they'll add the option to trading house.

[native echo]

wdym hope? you know this game like any other will have to fight with bots, if stuff is tradeable it will be worth nothing...

[mint marlin]

crafting gears are not as good as the dungeon drops...and requires a super high levels on multiple classes...u r very likely to cap lv80 in a month with a lv20 crafting classes...as a result..can only craft lv 60 gears..

[covert gust]

Most of the materials needed for gear crafting can be got through exchange. And did we forget why we do guilds in the first place? You work together to make things.

And what have you seen that shows crafting is worse than dungeon?

[mint marlin]

cuz i am playing CN server... nobody do this shit...for real

i was remember the crafting one was lacking one purple modifier

and due to the frequency of the gears update, can't real catching it. Plus, a high level crafting class cost a lot, but the weapon dungeon is open soon, u can get a good one on you first clear

[covert gust]

Well the modifier on global is green/yellow (colorblind), and its on crafted ones too

And we can always call for feedback on improved crafting

[mint marlin]

Well… this is just my personal take. The whole life-skill system is basically a trap, especially for players who missed the first week of life professions. But anyway, you’re only putting in bound gold, and it won’t really be scarce later on—so it’s not going to be fatal anyway.

[covert gust]

Yes, as it is few of them have any real use. That means we should vouch to get it improved rather than just avoiding it completely because its a part of the game many people enjoy

[mint marlin]

In fact, I’d still recommend you try as much as you can—this is CBT after all, it’s worth testing every possibility.

[covert gust]

Yeah I'm enjoying crafting, wish it was more like ff14 where it wasnt just press E, then click craft and there was more fun elements

[mint marlin]

i think this one was coming from Wow, similar to that one

[restive ore]

wdym the whole system is a trap? If nobody did any life skills, there would be 0 sources of gems for example.

[mint marlin]

well, the grind just isn’t worth the payoff. Give it a month and people will stop gathering, which will only make the mats even more valuable. But that's just my experience from different server, u play as ur way

[restive ore]

Well I'll surely be crafting at least gems, so if they get expensive, it's better for me 😁

[mint marlin]

if they get expensive.. ppl just do it themselves..

there is tax on selling..

if i was correct..the tax is 25%

[restive ore]

Nah. It's 5% (rounded up) + deposit

[mint marlin]

then maybe we can resell the black cards..never tried

[restive ore]

And the deposit looks like it's 1% (rounded up again), but max 2k.

But of course you get the deposit back when the sale is over.

[deft cloak]

Weapon dgn opens 9 days after server launch, doing this without spending an insane amount of money will take a week or so, doesnt really seem like this matters

[restive ore]

Not everyone wants to grind hard dungeons or bosses, so crafting weapons is a great alternative for them.

[deft cloak]

if you dont wanna do dgns and bosses, why even play though? cause i dont think you can even craft the better weps later into the game, except the 70+ ones that are special and need you to run dgn/raid

even devs abandoned the idea of life skill gear only path

but irregardless of that, my point being your not really saving much time or anything by doing this, you get a subpar weapon only to unlock the dungeon that lets you farm a better one

[mint marlin]

Bro, let him try it first. It’s just CBT anyway, and one week probably isn’t enough to really show the problems. Even if he actually plays that way, nothing irreversible will happen—the gold isn’t worth much, it won’t ruin the character. The only thing that’s truly valuable are the skill books.

[stone basalt]

Unfortunately i think gear crafting only goes up to ilvl40. At level 50 or so we'll be farming for ilvl 60+ so its kinda redundant.

Would've been better if they did something like ffxiv where crafted gear would be some sort of middle ground between tome and raid gear.

[mint marlin]

i rather hope the can fix the class balance 😅 it was changed every week, and some classes will be refused on all dungeons

[stone basalt]

Yeah but thats another can of worms

[restive ore]

Nah. Even lv80 gold gear can be crafted.

[restive ore]

No. My idea was to grind life skills instead of world bosses/dungeons, but you'd also do raids. It's more about convenience, since grinding dungeons requires either a static group or a LOT of waiting in matchmaking, if you're not a tank (and some failed runs).
Or you can do all, with crafting being just another source in search of the perfect substats.

Either way, you still need to get some gear outside of crafting, since it needs the mats you get from dismantling them.

[deft cloak]

Where'd you see this? The only 80 gold gear I saw crafted wasnt via life skill, its with dungeon/raid mats

[restive ore]

Technically craftable in cbt, if you grind life skill xp all day.

Well, maybe not. Dunno if farming 3 different life skills all day is enough to give you lv48.

[naive musk]

you can't craft 60 and 80 gear until you can actually get 60 and 80 gear drops

[restive ore]

Oh. Right. I forgot about that part. But it looks like you can get lv70 red drops on hard in the newest dungeon. Maybe those dismantle into lv60 mats.

[naive musk]

where did you get that nonsense from lol? level 70 gear is only from vendor

can't get it until week 3 of master mode

and only weapon so far

[restive ore]

A guy from guild was claiming it dropped there.

[naive musk]

it might be a bug that never happened on China, but it's probably trolling

[restive ore]

Yeah, prolly trolling
Maybe someone translated the screenshot from CN?

[naive musk]

looks real screenshot but doesn't mean the item is real

CN version translation has different wording for stats

[restive ore]

I mean the wrong wording can be translated manually, with photoshop or something.

[stone basalt]

Though that wouldnt be the first time something like this happened. Back in the cn beta tina used to drop ilvl60 weapon for some reason.

[mint marlin]

this one was upgraded from a dungeon lv60 weapon, with some 20 man raid droped materials

later we will have lv90 weapon from similar way

[restive ore]

How/where do you upgrade it?

[mint marlin]

Near the weapon dealer, currently not visible in the North American server

[restive ore]

I guess it unlocks at lv60

[mint marlin]

You need a fully enhanced level 70 weapon and materials dropped from a 20-man instance.

She will be unlocked when the t 20man raid is opened.

The weapon was pretty straightforward. Do the 20man raid, farm it every week, u got it

[restive ore]

Turns out you realistically can't craft gold weapons in Artisanry before the 3rd week, unless you spend all your stamina on it.
For bow/staff you need lv13 Artisanry, and you can't get that without spending Luno.
And getting from lv10 to 13 without spending stamina will cost more than 1.5M 💀

[naive musk]

just look at it like this: what does havving 20 more quality on a weapon matter? can you clear floor 20 stimen vault with it earlier? probably not

[restive ore]

Well it gives more gs, which matters for matchmaking.

[naive musk]

matchmaking for stimen vault? if you can't clear without the weapon you porbably can't clear with weapon

the difference is too small

[restive ore]

But for me it's not about the 20 quality. I have a gold weapon, but the substats are shit.

[naive musk]

on monday the denvel dungeon comes out with eaisly farmable weapon you can get perfect stat on yellow there easily

[restive ore]

I didn't say for stimen vault.

[naive musk]

you don't miss out on anything

ok then, stimen is the only place it matters, so just wait til monday and you can farm any stats you want

[restive ore]

tbh I'm not a fan of farming dungeons. The mechs are too frequent and always interfere with my burst

Either way, I already got mats for 2 bows, so I can craft them as soon as I finish the weekly life skill quest.

[restive ore]

But my question is why not both? Why would I restrict myself just to farming dungeon and not do crafting as well.

[naive musk]

that's up to you, but you have to ask yourself, what benefit do you gain from gettin the weapon a couple of days earlier? you're not able to parcticipate in any content or groups thanks to the weapon, it doesn't help you in any way.

except maybe make you feel better? idk,

[restive ore]

I'm not getting the weapon earlier. I just said I'm waiting for the weekly quest.

[naive musk]

the dungeon weapon with the purple line has higher gearscore too

I wish they made crafted gear more useful but right now it's a giant scam

[restive ore]

Well, someone in this thread said the crafted weapon has the purple stat too, so I can check if that's a lie while I'm at it.

[naive musk]

misinformation

[restive ore]

I'm mean I haven't seen a proof of it not being the case yet.

Of course I don't have high hopes, but I'll still craft it. The mats are free anyway.

[mint hazel]

Pretty late but crafted 3 legendary didn't have purple stat 2 bow 1 staff

[flat trellis]

This. crafted gear can't have Purple stat
@covert gust Tell this on your post before you induce a stroke on somebody

[covert gust]

My legendaries got from dungeons also dont have purple stat

[flat trellis]

Wait what? Mine have, so does the weap from my guildies

Are you sure you got that from a dungeon?

[mint hazel]

Always had some too when dropping

[flat trellis]

All gear dropped from dungeon have purple stat, you might have crafted yours maybe?

[covert gust]

Oh guess I never noticed it

[flat trellis]

Can you please say it on your post? it's misleading for new players, might cause a lot of trouble if people ignore dungeon to craft gear with life skills

[blazing quarry]

that's why we don't craft legendaries