fluid viper
Found an Ipod Video at the thrift store in a grab bag (it was $4, also had a cd cleaner which i needed) but not only is the center button pushed in, it's giving a hard disk error. Upon opening up, I was surprised to see a Samsung drive rather than the typical Toshiba drive.
Current status: Turns on, hard disk clicks twice (i assume its failing to start), gives the hard disk icon, "very low battery", repeat.
also the battery works idk why its saying critically low (unplugged it on the critically low screen once and it still did a full cycle)
fluid viper
update: the hard disk spun for a moment, but stopped on cue for the disk screen
im thinking the disk is not set up correctly
fluid viper
update: fixed the action button (the rubber circle was out of place) and booted into diag mode
im unable to check the SMART data, but the specs are available at least
fluid viper
wait i'm cooking
fluid viper
ok yeah i've got this nvm
fluid viper
update: disk mode works perfectly fine, however booting normally under any circumstance doesn't work
warm shadow
If it is technically OK, you need to make sure it is properly detected in diag mode - 96GB is incorrect size I suppose - check the ribbon? Maybe on the motherboard there are some traces of an issue like burns/water damage?
Plus you can try to do the recovery using iTunes.
fluid viper
recovery via iTunes doesnt do anything
the ipod restarts and just goes back to the hdd screen
i can check the mobo for damage tho
fluid viper
ok so update it doesn't fuck with itunes at all now
i opened it up and found that the molex had been adhered to the board
idk if that was from the factory but i lightly pulled it up to reseat it
now in disk mode it only shows up in device manager
warm shadow
If SMART data is not showing up and there is no damage in the HDD connection to the mobo - I would consider the HDD to be toast/getting there soon.
fluid viper
ok fucked with the cable again and now it appears
fluid viper
If SMART data is not showing up and there is no damage in the HDD connection to ...
so if i just buy a replacement i might be fine?
i'm a little confused because the drive IS accessible
warm shadow
You need to check SMART status - drive might be accessible - sometimes whole area even - but SMART will give information why it slows down or that it will soon die because number of migrated sectors is quickly raising (there is dust inside coming from for ex. a headcrash)
fluid viper
You need to check SMART status - drive might be accessible - sometimes whole are...
is there a way i can do this from my pc?
warm shadow
Only if you have a ZIF-PATA <-> USB adapter. Probably not worth buying.
warm shadow
There are no new mechanical drives, only new-old-stock.
And if you really want - you should switch to flash using one of the multitude of options: from the most famous and high quality iFlash, down to flash drives and adapters directly from Ali (with unknown prices as of today 🙂
fluid viper
im very aware of iflash but i already own a sony walkman with sd card storage
i like the feeling of a hard drive in my hand
warm shadow
Me too, that is why I have both HDD and flash ipods and love them both 🙂
fluid viper
yeahh
this ipod if i get it working will likely stay docked or itll be in my car through usb
im gonna keep trying to get the drive working properly but honestly a used 80gb toshiba drive is only like $25
additional note: the ipod doesnt want to charge in disk mode
i assume this is because of the hard drive but idk
warm shadow
Charging is totally independent.
fluid viper
oh
then i might have an issue
im gonna buy a firewire charger after i replace the hard drive
it was fully charged last night but i accidentally left the ipod in disk mode for a few hours and then it beeped at me and died
and now i cant get any charge off a charger
i can still run it for like 10 seconds without the charger so the battery seems fine
fluid viper
yeahhhh so the battery is cooked
i saw it charge on the cable
i unplugged it
it dropped the 2 bars it had within 2 seconds
monka
warm shadow
It can start swelling soon if not replaced and start pushing against the screen.
fluid viper
yeah ik
ill get it out when i get home
surprisingly it isnt swelling now despite being virtually dead
wait a minute
ipods act really finnicky on low battery right
lemme replace the batt first
yeah i scraped one of the battery pins off somehow
warm shadow
Also LiIon batteries do not swell immediately when discharged. It takes a lot of time in case of good quality ones.
fluid viper
would a 160gb toshiba fit in a 30gb shell or should i upgrade the shell too
fluid viper
Only if you have a ZIF-PATA <-> USB adapter. Probably not worth buying.
actually i have a 2.5" IDE tp USB enclosure so
maybe not this exact one but ill look into it
fluid viper
batt is completely fried now o7
warm shadow
one issue confirmed 🙂
If you have the PATA-zifPATA adapter - go for it, just make sure about polarisation - works only one way. I learned it the hard way 🙂
For 160GB - should work if it is like the drives for gen7 not gen6 - 160GB in g6 were thicker and used CF-ATA connector.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ipod/comments/wismlh/can_you_put_a_6th7th_gen_160gb_drive_in_a_55th/
fluid viper
noted
could i get a link to a recommended replacement batt?
any service is fine, i just dont wanna get duped by a fake MAh rating
shrewd juniper
noted
could i get a link to a recommended replacement batt?
any service is fine,...
they're like 650mAh stock just get whatever
shrewd juniper
actually i have a 2.5" IDE tp USB enclosure so
this is 1.8" IDE you'd have to go up a size again
shrewd juniper
they're like 650mAh stock just get whatever
at that capacity you're very unlikely to see fakes
also re: the Toshiba 160GB
MK1634GAL fits
fluid viper
yippee
fluid viper
do the 5th-7th gens all use the same kind of battery?
as in the ribbon goes to the same spot
nvm it is
warm shadow
Yes, those are identical. Just the fat versions (80GB 5G, 120-160GB 6G) use a bit bigger battery.
fluid viper
HIDDEN OPTION C: STEAL THE DRIVE FROM YOUR BROKEN ZUNE
fluid viper
(disclaimer: the zune has a bootloop issue that often triggers when it reads the drive, aka not worth my time to fix)
fluid viper
now it really is a 30gb ipod
fluid viper
now i just need a new battery and its set until i feel like upgrading
fluid viper
unfortunately the battery in the zune is not only shot but its also too thick anyways
warm shadow
I even wanted to add that ZUNE 30GB uses the same battery, but this is ipod discord server and the batteries fit only thick ipods.
fluid viper
I even wanted to add that ZUNE 30GB uses the same battery, but this is ipod disc...
yeah plus the battery in the zune is completely shot as well
on a similar note, getting this little thing replaced with a wider pad so that it doesnt slide off all the time
gave the action button to a friend cuz he said he'll make a more permanent solution
do the 5th-7th gens all use the same backplates
aka could i order a 7th gen thick backplate
warm shadow
In general - backs should be interchangeable among 5, 6 and 7g classic, but of course take into account the thickness.
fluid viper
thats the reason i want a new backplate is just to potentially get a thicker one for a larger battery
and a new frontplate just cuz
fluid viper
new batt ordered, no specific arrival time (its basically any time in the next month)
warm shadow
From china? Might take even longer than usual 🙂
fluid viper
yeahh its gonna suck
oh well i have time to do other things now ig
fluid viper
battery has come in, installing rn
night flare
oh wow it took 2+ weeks for batt to come
fluid viper
yep
ok so it works
one small problem
it thinks the headphones are permanently plugged in and the speaker doesnt make any noise even when booting debug mode
shrewd juniper
check your headphone jack flex out
warm shadow
and maybe time to just clean the headphones jack port?
shrewd juniper
and maybe time to just clean the headphones jack port?
that wouldn't prevent it from beeping when entering diags
it's still a good idea to clean the jack but because the beeper is on the headphone jack flex you should check the connection from that to the motherboard
fluid viper
had a feeling
kinda abused the hell out of it from disconnecting and reconnecting it so much
ordering an entirely new backplate in the future with a new headphone board on it so
oh yeah new front plate coming in that an ebay seller is giving me for free to practive dremelling with
fluid viper
ribbon connector on the headphone board fully broke, o7
