Should I buy a firewire cable for my iPod? [iPod 4G Mono]

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I'm buying a new battery for it because it's currently bootlooping, but I wanted to know if it would be a good purchase.

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I don't think touches can charge over FireWire

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oh i meant uh

4g mono

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oh uh

do you have the stock hard drive in it

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Should I buy a firewire cable for my iPod? [iPod 4G Mono]

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i believe so

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it should charge from dead over USB

do you have a dumb charger (apple 5 watt works)

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i attempt to charge it but it just bootloops but reads at charging

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but I can tell you sometimes they just Don't.
(context: it died on the charger lol)

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put it in diags mode and pick the "CHGR" test

leave it like that for half an hour or so then come back

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how do i do that?

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from powered off, hold centre and rewind

the apple logo will flash backwards and it'll say "iram pass press play"

then use the forward/back buttons to select the charging test, pick the USB one

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gotcha

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while you're in here (let it charge first though) you can also check the HDD SMART data

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what now?

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see if it gets to the menu, check the HDD health if you want

to get out press play, then scroll up to "reset" and pick that

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am i supposed to wait for it to finish or back out manually?

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back out manually

I think if you leave it on there it'll just keep charging and won't leave that screen even when it's full

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HDD R/W?

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option above it iirc

I think it's HDD test? let me check

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did hdd scan and it rebooted

odd?

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oh that's the one that is

a full surface scan

leave it plugged in

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i mean i did

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it's

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dont see anything named with HDD TEST

ah

gotcha

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ideal numbers for reference

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does it show a magnifying glass or something

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RETRACTS
4659

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no reallocated sectors or pending sectors though?

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nope

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just out of curiosity how scuffed up is that pod

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https://tenor.com/b0czE.gif

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retracts are typically G sense events if I'm interpreting my data right

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kinda scuffed

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yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

she'll probably be right

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wdym

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drive should be alright

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gotcha

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ie freefall protection

sometimes you get them from power loss though

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gotcha

so what could my issue be?

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probably an ancient battery

does it get to the menu?

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diagnostic menu?

yes

but not a menu i can actually yknow

use the ipod

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if you select reset does it throw a low battery instantly

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hitting reset makes it boot, say its charging, and then it'll just power off and bootloop +etc

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weird

does it do that plugged into a PC?

as 4th gens are kind of annoying with their chargers

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oh its uh

its saying do not disconnect at the moment

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oh then it might connect to your PC and stay on

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potentially

it does appear as a storage device on my pc

though do be wary im not using a windows computer

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that's good

are you on a Mac or are you cultured and using Linux

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arch linux

:]

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hehe

just leave it plugged in, it'll charge connected to a PC

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hopefully.

i still need to get an itunes solution that isnt just cracking open a spare windows 10 install

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you know lots of Linux apps have iPod support right

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partially yeah

just not sure which ones specifically

which one do you use?

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I use foobar2000 because I'm on windows but iirc rhythmbox supports ipod?

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heard about that one

i'll check it out again

when is it gonna... stop saying do not disconnect

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when you eject it

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its not mounted

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oh it'll just uh

yeah it just says that

you can unplug it whenever if it's not mounted

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ah

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apple was very anally retentive about ejecting your disks though because hfs+ ipods need it

and also because itunes touches the database like. whenever it wants

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gotcha

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even fat32 disks on macos say "WAHHHHHHHHHH YOU NEED TO EJECT DISKS YOU MIGHT HAVE LOST DATA WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" shut UP it's fat32

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lol

so i can probably just unplug it now?

and to confirm its probably just a stupid battery? @devout scroll

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yeah

the battery is easy enough to change

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oh it

it charged

huh.

wacky.

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yeah

for reference the HDDs in these things need like 750mA on spinup

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fuck nvm it just died

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if it tried to spin the disk that would do it

do you have like, a dumb wall charger (one that just puts out 5v1a)

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SWI at 7270040 (0)
pc:7270040 sp:000e2360
bt end

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oh you're running rockbox aren't you

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yeah.

i put rockbox on there years ago

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shouldn't make much of a difference though

if you boot it into stock (hold switch on) and put it on a wall charger does it stay on?

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lemme test that

how do i force a shutdown

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menu and centre

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partially yeah

attempting to play a song lets it well

attempt to play a song

then it will crash shortly after

so yeah uh new battery order is def in place

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yeah that battery sounds cooked