linguistic-hub

[low warren]

👍

[zinc pine]

In this case

[low warren]

may be good to 「」

idk

[zinc pine]

人　⇒ 人たち

You only used “person” here not “people”

[low warren]

I thought it was person / people

Ive seen people write “people” without 達

[zinc pine]

Actually, use 者たち sound even better

[low warren]

ngl sometimes I accidentally start reading chinese posts only to realize 3 characters in that it’s chinese lmao

[zinc pine]

It’s different in context of language, I don’t know how to explain it but 人 alone can refer to people in some context but not in general

Directly translate and it can only mean “a person”

[low warren]

ah aight

either way if you’re a person who likes cluster come here 🔥🔥💯💯

[zinc pine]

I still can’t understand what is this “cluster” mean by the way

[low warren]

major npc

[zinc pine]

So it’s this guy

Shapeshifter bastard

[low warren]

I wanna eat their hair

[zinc pine]

[low warren]

[low warren]

yeah but they’re cool and adorable so

it’s forgivable

[zinc pine]

You like genderless character huh. Ya pfp and you like that ch.12 boss too

[low warren]

it’s by coincidence but if yostar is gonna hit us with another cute / cool / attractive / adorable genderless / gender-fluid character then it’ll be a third lmao

[zinc pine]

Variety in Arknights can be scary some time

[low warren]

I like the variety

[zinc pine]

Agree

[low warren]

I mean sometimes it doesn’t make sense like the anthropomorphic/ human versions of the same species in arknights

or race whatever

but the variety of characters is nice

[jagged wigeon]

it is because たち is not syntactic.

[low warren]

ping me here

[low warren]

thanks 👍

@nocturne vale

Soviet export

[nocturne vale]

It's an acronym for the kind of binoculars

Or an abbreviation

Бинокль призменный с центральной фокусировкой

[low warren]

Well that was self explanatory lmao

I tried to find the company / division but google lens gave nothing

[low warren]

Zagorsk Optical-Mechanical Plant

found it

Thanks for the help!

[rain plank]

So where do y'all think English is going in terms of syntax and grammar? I think conjugation might become a feature in the next hundred or so years for more rural dialects in the US.

[low warren]

Doesn’t English already have conjugations? Just not really consistent

@jagged wigeon sorry for the ping but ur a linguist right?

what r ur thoughts

[low warren]

probably just gonna continue on adding words, phrases influenced from the internet and other dialects will become more globalized in English

[jagged wigeon]

just an amateur unfortunately

it's generally incredibly hard to predict a language's evolution but statistically yes, English may very well get more conjugations but we're talking centuries of evolution here. I personally think English will become analytical with a large variety of tenses like where AAVE is heading.

[low warren]

ah

focusing on any specific languages?

idrk what linguists do

[jagged wigeon]

I guess I kinda specialize on the ones I know

[low warren]

I know a linguist who specialized in Japanese for a bit

but they don’t know it anymore except for the language concepts

of it

[jagged wigeon]

yeah that's the case with most linguists

[low warren]

I am learning it and so I knew with certainty that they were pronouncing “I’ve been studying Japanese for three years, but I’m sorry because I don’t speak it anymore.”

perfectly

lmao

[jagged wigeon]

yeah that's the case with most linguists

I personally love to do language evolution (like etymology and sound change) but that's pretty common

[low warren]

Learning a bit of the language but mainly focusing on the concepts?

[jagged wigeon]

oops it sent twice

yeah most linguists don't really learn the language

[low warren]

yesterday you sent a message saying 人たち wasn’t syntactic, is it because you use 人々 or 人 or 方々

？

I’ve never used 人たち before so idk

[jagged wigeon]

it's because たち is just a word like any other and not a conjugation or anything, therefore it's not required

[low warren]

ah yeah

oh wait it was the other guy who said 人たち lol

[sullen garden]

(Remember to try and include a translation / explanation for those less in-the-know; not crucial in cases where it's just a word or short phrase, but helpful nonetheless.)

[rain plank]

Just woke up so it might be a little jank, but what I mean by conjugation is what Spanish does with verb endings like corres (you run) or corro (I run). This observation derives from what I see happening with English where I live in the Midwest. I see what I interpret as the very early beginnings of conjugated verb endings.
Examples:
You're gonna (you will/ you're going to)
I'm gon' (I will/ I'm going to)
You ru'in (you run)
I'm runnin (I run)
There is more, I'm just to tired to think about it rn.

[rain plank]

There are also some verb beginning conjugations and a large amount of inconsistency, but give it a century or two and it'll likely smooth itself out.

[low warren]

alright

[sly needle]

I think linguistics in the arknights universe can also mean the study of figuring out what kinda things ling mumbles when she gets drunk

either that or she has speech 100 when she’s drunk because she’s a dragon or something

so maybe like it’s not that deep of a field

[jagged wigeon]

it probably just should be old chinese I'm guessing

[sly needle]

it’d be funny if she just switched into cantonese.

[kindred smelt]

Hello

[low warren]

こんちゃ (hello)

born to use #linguistic-hub
forced by thanik to elaborate 😔

[bleak sigil]

i hate typing in arabic

the keyboards have no idea what they're doing

clearly a skill issue

[opal apex]

Cat puns as it best

[keen folio]

hello smart people of #linguistic-hub does anyone know what this means

[upbeat barn]

idk but i can write it and check translator.

썜크 에반뎅

even after using translator i still have no idea.

[dense steppe]

Are guesses by people who know nothing about the language allowed? 썜크 sounds like thank you. 에반 seems to be slang for "too much". Idk what 뎅 stands for

Maybe young people speak for tqvm?

[sullen garden]

Of course they are.

If anything it's cool to hear regardless.

[dreamy mango]

Wow tetrio

[low warren]

As an expert Korean speaker I can say with full confidence that it means “I am lying about me being an expert Korean speaker”

[echo vector]

wheres the JP learning club

[jagged wigeon]

yes let us explore the amazing world of proto-japonic phonetics

[lusty ivy]

can someone confirm if this is right? ドコタ, ドライヤー わ ある か?

[dense steppe]

Is it supposed to say, "doctor, is there a dryer?"

[lusty ivy]

I asked my mom later and she changed it slightly, so we good

[lusty ivy]

ye

[dense steppe]

Oh, it should be ドクター、ドライヤーはある? I think, not sure whether the か is needed

The は here is pronounced as わ

[frigid maple]

Anyone interested in learning a bit of swedish? cus im happy to teach

[nocturne vale]

Is か necessary to indicate that a video was made x months ago? Other units of time don't seem to need it

[dense steppe]

it functions as a counter, without it would mean June

[dense steppe]

Days use it as well, as it could mean 6th day of the month. Seconds, minutes and years yeah, no confusion there

[nocturne vale]

Ooh, right

Should've realized that since i understand this perfectly fine

[lusty ivy]

got that from my mom, ty

[nocturne vale]

I'm not opposed to the idea

[frigid maple]

yay :> i guess we will start with Hi, in swedish hi is Hej, said like to hay in english

[nocturne vale]

Hej

[frigid maple]

:> your doing great bud

J usually sounds like y in hay, and its used a lot more than y. Good thing to know.

ive got class in a bit so ill reply again later

[nocturne vale]

I've had a fair bit of exposure to scandinavian languages, dw

[dense steppe]

this is the sweetest language lesson I've ever seen. I'm just wondering how many decades it would take to achieve fluency

[frigid maple]

:>

[frigid maple]

Thatd probably depend on where you are from and how old you are since certain languages are very similar like norwiegan(definetly butchered that) and swedish.

and age is because children learn faster than adults

[nocturne vale]

When 一つ, 二つ (hitotsu, futatsu) and so on forms are used exactly?

[dense steppe]

Counting again. It's kinda weird since we don't use counters for most things in English. Think of it like counting pairs of shoes. One pair, two pairs and so on

Without the つ or whatever you're basically just listing numbers

一個、二人、三枚 they have different counters for different shapes/sizes/things

[nocturne vale]

What's with long cylindrical objects?

Also, is there a higher quality image? Hard to tell if it's は or ば

[dense steppe]

uh, don't think there is. but it's

the h sounds can turn into b or p depending on the number

https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/japanese-counters-list/ knock yourself out

[young marsh]

Say, I wanna learn new language and I kinda have lots of free time rn, is it a good idea to learn 2 new languages at the same time or no?

[nocturne vale]

You can learn as many as you want. You can always come back to them

[upbeat barn]

I tried 3 at the same time. But other people usually said better focus on 1 at a time.

[young marsh]

[dense steppe]

Which 3? Don't you get confused by all the different grammar structures?

[upbeat barn]

cn, kr, jp. kr and jp have same or similar grammar.

[low warren]

Yes

like mentioned, otherwise it would be June

ヶ月 is also used

same pronunciation

[gray estuary]

"tukiau"
one said that it means "wearing" but google translate said "to date" (as in boy and girl walk together, eat together at restaurant smth).

so, who's correct?

[fresh current]

付き合う?

To date

Just more of to go out with someone

[low warren]

like penguin said if its 付き合う then kinda, just going out or accompanying somebody

not famil with any verb that has that conjugation for wearing

unless there's some slang / colloquialism or whatever its called

[gray estuary]

this is what actually i want to find out tbh

[gray estuary]

also this word should be used carefully to prevent awkward situations, right?

cos idk if japanese people actually implies A and B are dating instead of "just going out with someone" (dating sounds more intimate than "just going out with someone")

AさんはBさんと付き合う

[low warren]

Example database search it

[fresh current]

Dating

[gray estuary]

alright
not gonna use that word lol

[faint eagle]

(German)
If I would like to ask: What did he mean by this?
Which would be the correctest way?

1. Was meinte er damit?
2. Was hat er bedeutet bei dass?
3. (Something else)

[dusk latch]

The first statement is the correct translation.

The second one should be "Was hat er bedeutet?" to make some sense but that'd still be different from what you're trying to ask.

[faint eagle]

[dreamy mango]

Was hat er bedeutet bei das is a literal word for word translation haha

[nocturne vale]

Any slavic language speakers in here? As someone who knows russian, this is surprisingly comprehensive
https://youtu.be/bZJa8NmeNiM?si=0XLubmR2bW01xlhF

[steep plaza]

pole here, perfectly understandable

[low warren]

like interlingua?

[nocturne vale]

Yea, pretty much

[sullen garden]

Can confirm.

[nocturne vale]

Wtf Thanik slavic?

[sullen garden]

[vast token]

I am trying to edit my Carnelian pics and I thought I would ask how you would transcribe her name in Demotic or Hieratic script (since her tribe parallels ancient Egypt)

The left one is in Demotic and the right one is Hieratic

and how I did it was to transcribe it as [woman] (k3r nyl yn)

not sure if there is a more accurate way of writing this

also the use of the cartouche enclosing the name

[frigid maple]

weve having swedish classes about regional accent in my class lately so ive started thinking more about specifically regional accents which is really fun to do

im sure my dalsländska seep into how i speak in english for sure(dalsand is a swedish state/region and its abbreviated(if thats the right word?) to be the accent from dalsand)

[green copper]

is anyone trying to figure out what this means?

𒋚 𒃰𒅈𒊍𒁮𒅎𒉌𒈲𒁺

https://ak.hypergryph.com/ra/taleswithinthesand

[true forge]

How did you even transcribe that from that photo

half the line is hidden

It depends on exactly what language that is. Cuneiform is used by several languages. Its like Latin alphabet; It could look like French but its in actuality Vietnamese.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/𒋚 does list semantic values so you can search glyph by glyph, but again, some languages use Cuneiform phonetically, so unless you speak it, its tough to know for sure.

http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/epsd2/literary/cbd/sux/M.html I also found this searching for a phrase that matches the last 2 glyphs "𒈲𒁺"

issue being that the glyph alone "𒈲" has completely different meaning from "𒈲𒁺". "𒈲𒁺" means stop work, and "𒈲" has possible senses of space and snake.

[green copper]

lol my friend did that for me.

there wasnt a way to know which language it actually is, but judging on the settings i suppose it is sumarian

the only problem is that after running python through the oracc database the sentence seemed to have no meaning at all

I ran cade for basically every well documented cuneiform language

the only thing that seemed to make sense is arsalan

Szubat-Arsalan

𒅈𒊍𒁮

[shut salmon]

Is it the job for The Great Owl Research team?

[bleak sigil]

Yoo this channel is wild

[quiet plover]

Anyone can translate that?
I only know few words like catch and Commander

[dense steppe]

Commander, how did you know I caught a 648kg (big) fish 2

[rain plank]

I had to do a presentation in Spanish class today. And what almost fucked me over was sofa. In Spanish sofa is sofá. Habit dictates that it should be 'la sofá', but no, it's 'el sofá'. And getting the adjective agreement on that right was a struggle because habit dictates the I use feminine adjectives, but instead it's masculine adjectives

[green copper]

gg

spanish is mildly painful

[muted flume]

What's the best way to start memorizing Chinese hanzi vocab

[dense steppe]

personally went through public school chinese education decades ago, so did it the old fashioned way and i hated it so not sure if it's the best way but can't deny it's effective
lots of word tracing exercises at the very start, then just filling out pages without guides, rewriting the same words again and again (get some grid exercise books)
听写：have someone read the words to you (with context because 同音字) and you write them out (can probably do it with flashcard apps)
默写：memorize entire paragraphs/short essays and write them out the next day
writing a diary/essays as homework

just lots and lots and lots of repetition every single day, you'll eventually drop the individual word exercises

[oblique otter]

learn word parts/radicals and lots of practice

force memorization of shapes isn't going to help if you can't recognize the patterns, which is where a lot of ppl fail in learning hanzi and kanji

[grave nest]

Hi

[grave nest]

Does anyone know the Ursus language?

[rain plank]

It's basically just Russian. Most AK languages are just renamed or are very similar to real world languages.

[tawny fog]

Da

[grave nest]

Horosho

[native raven]

resembles but isn't russian

see operation originium dust lore

[grave nest]

ок

[grave nest]

I read it

Didn't understand what you mean

[native raven]

yes

similar but different

to russian

[still compass]

Anyone have english subtitltles for W Animation?

[sullen garden]

Unfortunately I don't think anyone has them yet

You'd need to wait for someone competent to translate it and upload a video.

[loud kettle]

https://youtu.be/1n8vgRU5AD4?si=S2YE7FdZpcl7ZFH_ this one ?

[rain plank]

Can someone translate this? From what little I can get, it's a poem talking about a wind master.

I found it at a thrift store.

[dense steppe]

苏轼《水调歌头·明月几时有》
丙辰中秋，欢饮达旦，大醉，作此篇，兼怀子由。

明月几时有？把酒问青天。不知天上宫阙，今夕是何年。我欲乘风归去，又恐琼楼玉宇，高处不胜寒。起舞弄清影，何似在人间。(何似 一作：何时；又恐 一作：惟 / 唯恐)
转朱阁，低绮户，照无眠。不应有恨，何事长向别时圆？人有悲欢离合，月有阴晴圆缺，此事古难全。但愿人长久，千里共婵娟。(长向 一作：偏向)

I'm not sure why it begins at a random point in the poem, also throws all punctuation out the window and text wraps randomly

我欲乘 (text in the pic starts from here) 风归去...

https://eastasiastudent.net/china/classical/su-shi-water-song/ translation here

[rain plank]

Thank you very much.

[spice heath]

예

[scenic ocean]

I was watching some bilibili stuff at the Ark of Tommorow event, then found this video and the creator made some more stuff on it on this https://www.bilibili.com/opus/758999323632467969?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0 ,its a story dialogue stuff but i felt like the auto translation ( in my browser) felt wrong or something error. Might be some auto translation issues anyways

[nimble isle]

remind me. rule of thumb is that the operator's va will say the name correctly as it is in universe right?

[sullen garden]

Which (language) VA?

[nimble isle]

EN

[rain plank]

What if I told you that Johan, John, and Ivan all have the same origin.

Specifically, the Greek name Ionnes which roughly translates to grace of God.

[elder warren]

can anyone translate this for me? https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1U4421Z72W/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0&vd_source=c656cfef4810ab05e483e9c96960f9b5

[dense steppe]

Wtf is wrong with bili, clicked on play and it prompted 5 downloads and filled up my clipboard with junk

[oblique kayak]

In this video has 3 sentences,“打开你的哔哩哔哩”="open the Bilibili", "准时收看血狼直播"="Watch Xue Lang's live on time", Xue Lang is an abbreviation of an Arknights up's nickname, total nickname is Xue Lang Po Jun.(https://space.bilibili.com/267766441) "实现超大杯的好助手"="A extremely good assistant" I have never watched his live, so the last sentence may not be precisely translated. And the audio of 3 sentences is generated by AI. (From who upload this video)

[elder warren]

I'm asking about the audio translation, do I look like I can't understand the text?

[oak hedge]

Posts a poorly prompted request, then sounding irked because someone can't read mind lol.

Is there a way to flip the text of the game to preferred language or am I locked to English text if I play North American version?

[rain plank]

What language do you need?

[oak hedge]

Would like to read in Korean text. Ever since I heard what Lungmen is read as in Korean, I am curious if NA client can have the text language changed.

Am native Korean speaker/listener/reader/writer.

[rain plank]

I know there's Korean VAs, but from what I've been able to find global is locked to English.

[oak hedge]

Unfortunate. Thank you.

[dense steppe]

There's an app called EZ Screen Translator on android that's like a screen overlay, maybe give that a try

Can't vouch for the accuracy of the translations though

[oak hedge]

I understand both Korean and English, I think with English being more primary language now. With Korean being my childhood language though, English sometimes just doesn't cut it when I look at translation from Asian games. That's why I wanted to see if the official Korean text would be available.

[jagged wigeon]

I believe you could mod the game for this

[proven musk]

Hey, do you know the meaning of ALAS? Sometime i found this word when reading a manga in english language, so what's the meaning of ALAS?

[chilly crescent]

This?

[proven musk]

Thankyou, now i can sleep peacefully :)

[crimson fractal]

So uhhh...how you pronounce Decadenza? .-.

[sullen garden]

You know the SI prefix "Deka"?

Or ig that doesn't mean much when the word 'decadence' itself has it. Just replace the -ce with -za and break it up like "deca-den-za".

[inner stratus]

Anyone learning Irish in here

[fallen halo]

me (kind of) hello

[inner stratus]

Dia duit

Tá mé i mo chónaí i mBaile Átha Cliath le 10 mí.

Tá Gaeilge ag mo chailín agus ba mhaith liom dul i gcion uirthi.

[fallen halo]

tbf my irish is not the best lol

[inner stratus]

No problem

Dia dhaoibh.

[fallen halo]

dia's muire duit

[formal flame]

gang how you pronounce nachzehrer

[faint eagle]

Try putting it in google translate, it looks like it's quite accurate with german

Idk about other languages

[faint eagle]

Me when kanji

[inner stratus]

Why would you pronounce Nachzehrer any other then the German pronunciation

[faint eagle]

Me? I wouldn't

[inner stratus]

Same but the idea of eng-fying the word Nachzehrer would make me die inside

Or even worse. Japanifying

[rain plank]

To play devil's advocate, the englishification would sound somewhat alright since German and English are both Germanic languages. It'd sound like Nak-zær-rør. At least where I'm from.

[inner stratus]

Wtf no it wouldn't sound alright 🗿

Guess I am just stingy tho

But English accent German pisses me off 😭

[rain plank]

Sounds fine to me.

[inner stratus]

The complete inability to pronounce the "ch" makes it wack

Also eventho English is related to German doesn't mean phonetically that English speaker are intuitively good at pronouncing stuff in German.

Since German has a lot of stressed sounds like tz, lch, chz and something called a glottal stop found in words like "vereisen" .

ö,ü also

[sullen garden]

Me when č.

I needed to find a Chinese-American fluent in Mandarin to explain the concept of č.

[rain plank]

That's what I'm tryna express. It's what an English speaker would approximate the pronunciation to if they're trying to get it right.

[stray minnow]

My understanding is English would have been pretty close phonetically like 300 years ago, but there was some point in like the 1700s where English's vowels just completely changed. I can't find any solid reasons as to why though.

I can kind of pronounce modern German from speaking a preserved germanic language within my family. I probably mess up some of the R sounds though, they trill it in the throat or something to memory, rather than with the tongue

[hearty tree]

Modern German also has been through several rounds of standardisation. English is closest to language such as Frisian, which is shrinking and uncommon in media

[trim pine]

Guys, may I ask a question?

[stray minnow]

What's the question

[trim pine]

When I was playing, a certain line had caught my eye (the second choice, to be exact)
English is not my first language, so I may be wrong, but it sounds kind of unnatural and... Weird?

Like the second part uses singular, which can be understood by "is", at the same time the ending is "don't they", which feels off because it's plural which brings inconsistency to a sentence and feels like a mistake.

I just want to get to know if my train of thought goes the right way before sending this to the issues channel or smth like that (if it wasn't done before me, of course, since I let this question stir down my mind for days before coming here)

I spoilered the screenshot because it might be considered a spoiler, so... Yeah, that's it pretty much.

[stray minnow]

That's a proper sentence gramatically. In common speech "They" is usually plural, but in that case would just be referring to someone/something that isn't present, just sort of a neuter usage

Like if I were asking about a friend of mine in a sentence, I could say "Doesn't he?" Or "Doesn't she?", but if you were talking about a group, or someone of unspecified sex, you can say "Don't they?"

[trim pine]

Ah, it's a... It's a singular-meaning they... How could I not think of it, damn...
Excuse me, the answer was on a surface.

Thank you for the explanation.

[astral sorrel]

예

[minor tide]

linguistics 🔥🔥🔥

[open widget]

]\

[hallow veldt]

@whole jolt No início de dragon ball a bulma era uma assassina, ela atirou no goku sem pensar 2 vezes, mesmo ele sendo criança e indefeso, sem ligar se ele tinha família, tudo isso pra buscar seu objetivo que era as esferas, mas isso ngm fala 😢

[whole jolt]

que triste mano

me da 19 reais

[lunar rock]

are there any fan translations of the 123 Rhodes Island comics?

[fresh current]

i can dm

[candid zephyr]

on mangadex

[faint eagle]

收复失地

Any idea what this means?

Lost land recovery in some kind of game context

[dense steppe]

without context yeah, something like recovering land that you lost

[radiant vault]

Land reclamation?

[dense steppe]

dont think it has to be literally land, could be applied to power/influence for example

[dense steppe]

not in the sense of creating artificial land by filling the sea

[faint eagle]

What is the deal with this character? It looks different when I paste it: 累
I know what it means I just don't know what is going on

If it's the font change, it still shouldnt change that much, it's basically a different char now

[dense steppe]

is this japanese?

it looks squished vertically but otherwise identical on my end, maybe it's just font?

[hallow veldt]

Oi, eu sou o Goku!

[whole jolt]

sound:1007161242395344987:1163228009185169428 @hallow veldt

[faint eagle]

Chinese

Then yeah seems like it's a font

Even though differences are big

[radiant vault]

I think I've seen that character before

my dictionary app never seemed to recognize the left version when I wrote it out

maybe the right one became the modern standard or something

[faint eagle]

lei - tired

[dense steppe]

Google searching 累 with a Japanese keyboard just turns it into 累 lol

[faint eagle]

My keyboard thinks I'm a weeb?

[dense steppe]

Tf sending it here converts it to

累

[faint eagle]

If I copy it from here it doesn't change

Wow

What does it mean

[dense steppe]

Font

[dense steppe]

viewing it on PC converts it back, so yeah, just a font issue

[mental steppe]

/purge 5 767690915292643339

[wanton valve]

Successfully deleted 1 messages out of 5.

[rocky gust]

does anyone know what it says here on the bottom left?

[radiant vault]

the characters are pretty stylized uhh

looks like chief director

zong for chief, the daoyan is the same as in executive director

[rocky gust]

that makes sense thank you 🫡

[magic isle]

it's essentially a font issue; the problem is that variations between e.g. china and japan map to the same code point

see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification#Examples_of_language-dependent_glyphs for more

in HTML you can sometimes force the correct variation using lang="...", which is how we handle it on sanity;gone, but the above is why it's necessarily in the first place

[mental steppe]

/purge 1 1010744880923938856

[wanton valve]

Successfully deleted 1 messages out of 1.

[faint eagle]

Any ideas how to build this sentence including all words? 我觉得生意很难 makes perfect sense and 谈 doesn't seem to fit

[ruby leaf]

🤨

[faint eagle]

🤨

[ruby leaf]

我覺得生意很難談 (Traditional Chinese)

[ruby leaf]

我觉得生意很难谈 (Simplified Chinese)

[faint eagle]

Okay, thanks

[brittle garnet]

I feel like 我觉得谈生意很难 is okay/better

Anyway either way would works, it make sense

[dense steppe]

生意觉得我很难谈

[brittle garnet]

[ruby leaf]

我谈生意很难得？

[brittle garnet]

Where's 觉

[ruby leaf]

[tame jasper]

Seems that 我觉得谈生意很难 and 我觉得生意很难谈 are both the correct answers.
We often use “谈生意很难” when focusing on process difficulty (e.g., "Negotiating business is hard because clients are demanding."). “生意很难谈” is widely used when focusing on inherent difficulty (e.g., "Business is hard to negotiate this year due to market competition.").

[tame jasper]

谈 is a verb actually so you should put it after the subject.

[narrow hawk]

@craggy arch
pleading: 命だけは助けてください (it sounds like "take anything, but spare my life")
very pleading: どうか、命だけは助けてください
casual: 命は勘弁してくれよ

[craggy arch]

oh that casual form is real interesting

i think ive heard that in some form of media before

dk where tho

[narrow hawk]

it's very casual and not very serious

there's also a line you can often hear in anime

許してください

mostly from female characters

[hearty glade]

許して implies youre admitting to some fault on your own end

[narrow hawk]

yes

honestly, these days I just ask the AI when I have questions regarding language. The models only have a beginner understanding on most topics but when it comes to languages they are very fluent

[craggy arch]

Huh, ai is probably the last thing id trust on any topic

Interesting to know its actually good for language

[hearty glade]

pretty much all ai models are trained on language data tbf

would definitely still trust a native speaker or other students first tho

[craggy arch]

Ofc

[narrow hawk]

the AI is trained on data from native speakers. When I ask it about something technical on a specialised topic, it will hallucinate and make up stuff but it will always do so in perfect English (or whichever language I choose)

if I don't understand a sentence it's also very good at providing nuances that are easy to miss for learners

[craggy arch]

hallucinating is like

the perfect word to describe the experience lol

[narrow hawk]

as a rule of thumb: as soon as it starts apologising, run!

[craggy arch]

Can i have a rule of pinky

[dreamy mango]

Tes

Lmfao still not gray

[cobalt pond]

anyone trying to decipher this? just curious:

[brittle garnet]

[karmic steeple]

Is that3 lines of binary?!?

Like encoded

[bright spindle]

whre is this found

[tame jasper]

I once thought that it was Pigpen Cipher.

Mb they are meaningless.
random graphics, as we all see.

[cobalt pond]

I will link the video to you, you'll know better than me, I'm new to the game. But chapter 15

[cobalt pond]

I tried to go that route, doesn't seem so

[cobalt pond]

It's clearly not random graphics tho

Also the square looks like originium somehow

[cobalt pond]

this is all i was doing yesterday, maybe helps someone i dunno (download it cuz here on discord shows too small):

[tame jasper]

Mm have you noticed any other clues?

Insufficient evidence
or
need for more information

[bright spindle]

I did tried it with morse code

Turns out it was gibberish

Maybe it'd be a key for other ciphers?

[tame jasper]

We need to wait for an opportunity instead of speculating in vain here because there is too little available information tbh.
They provided us with some doors but we clearly lack the key to open them at the moment.
We should continue to monitor the latest news till PV5 is officially released.

[jaunty stone]

【给博士——一封来自″CLOSURE″的隐秘信件-哔哩哔哩】【To the Doctor—A Secret Letter from "CLOSURE" - Bilibili】 https://b23.tv/bz9voY0
This is a pattern that appeared in the test , and a complete decryption has already been done.

[wet matrix]

内个

[tame jasper]

bruh

[tame jasper]

Maybe someone can solve this new puzzle.
https://ak.hypergryph.com/pcs
It contains a piece of recording and some error codes.

If there's someone who has already deciphered it or it is mentioned in an article somewhere then ping me pls.

[lunar rock]

for what its worth, decoding '\xde\xad\xbe\xef' from hex (de ad be ef)to ascii returns gibberish. Removing the '\x'-s gives 'deadbeef', not sure whats that about, sounds more legible thats for sure

maybe someone has the time to decode this hex values with other encoding (maybe Chinese-specific ones?)

more interesting disxovery: decoding the binary text with utf-16 big endian results in this: 解除锁定

(ill leave it to you guys to translate it, should be noted that when you split the phrase in half, each of them have hits on wiktionary, so im confident its legible Chinese)

解除 - https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/解除

锁定 - https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/锁定

[lunar rock]

wait i just realized the last message is 6 days ago lol

[dense steppe]

it means remove lock or unlock

[faint eagle]

Does the translator recognise game character names or 能天使 can really be translated into english somehow?

[fresh current]

iirc the greek romanisation of that is exusiai so

it's something different in english

[hallow veldt]

@whole jolt

https://tenor.com/view/devilmaycry-dante-dmc-dmc4-devil-gif-4747528

[whole jolt]

where tf did you came from I was looking for you 2 days ago to show you this

[tame jasper]

Machines only know how to translate.
They don't probe into whether this noun can be translated lol.

[unique orbit]

It’s because the gundam exia is named the exact same in Chinese as exusiai, and in Chinese they both refer directly to the Powers (angels)

[tame jasper]

Mine is "Trans-AM" somehow lmao.

[unique orbit]

Gundam is love, gundam is life

What translations are you people even using to get exia and trans-am

[tame jasper]

Mine

Exusiai.
one of the many results

But translator just chose the least accurate one.

[magic isle]

I still remember when it got translated literally via google translate on things like viktorlab's dps calc

as can angel

[vocal kayak]

Guys what is differents between “say”,”tell”,”speak”,talk ?

[bright spindle]

tell is used when speaking directly to a person so it follows an object in a sentence.

[vocal kayak]

And ?

[bright spindle]

speak is used in more formal, authoritative situations.

talk is used in an informal situation and in generic terms

whereas say is used kinda like the same way as tell and is interchangeable

for example:
Did she tell you what happened yesterday?
Did she say what happened yesterday?

you just gotta chnage some structure

im not reallt sure about this

but i think its probably correct (?)

[unique orbit]

same as above, but im just adding that "say" and "tell" generally indicates a more one-way exchange, tell is also more directed when used with an object
for example, "My teacher told me to do my homework" and "My teacher said to do my homework", both indicate a one-way exchange (the listener only receives information) from the teacher to the student, but "told" is specifically directed at "me" and because of that has a much stronger emphasis.

"say" can also have the same emphasis, but will also have to take an object
for example:
"A told B" and "A said to B" have essentially the same meaning, but if A is speaking and says "B said X", it just means that A heard B say X at some point and is now relaying the information

of course, context also matters

meanwhile to speak and to talk generally indicates that there is more of a conversation

[vocal kayak]

Tysm

[lapis bison]

How to pronounce vulpisfoglia

[sullen garden]

Like 'Vulpisfoya'

[lapis bison]

Ty

[quiet quarry]

i made turkish translation of the classes, because why not

[sonic wave]

Hello, when should I use が and when should I use は in a sentence? I've looked up online but still don't really get it lol

Perhaps an example with explanation will help a lot🙏🏻

[dense steppe]

extremely long explanation here, idk why it veers to other topics towards the end before the conclusion https://8020japanese.com/wa-vs-ga/

[dense steppe]

I know this is just another online resource but making a tldr just won't help you, and after giving it a read I felt it lays it out pretty well

[crimson blade]

Hello, does anyone here know the ancient egpytian transcription from pepe/papyrus/sand reckoner's dialogue? (Or any language beside english because i dont know what they're saying)

[fast portal]

[sonic wave]

Why do a lot of Russian characters look like reversed alphabet but even then it sounds completely different than their latin version?

It's my first day learning Russian, really confusing... But still easier than Kanji

@rapid fern mann they are here

[kind geyser]

They are everywhere

“It- it’s not shutting down!”

[sullen garden]

Latin & Greek script are related. Cyrillic is Greek-derived as well. It'd really help if you knew a Slavic language, since the letters are pretty different (more phonetic).

[rain plank]

Languages using Cyrillic are easier than English in terms of learning how to read IMO. Very phonetic and it just makes more sense. Yeah some of the letters can throw you for a loop if your back round is in a Latin based system but you get used to it.

I've been trying to learn Mongolian which uses Cyrillic.

[fierce lodge]

Hey y'all, I've recently started an effort to standardize the lyrics found on the Arknights Terra wiki and get them uploaded to apps like YouTube music.

I'm currently in need of some opinions about a line in Renegade—the word 'meet' during the verse "...you best prepare to meet the..." at 2:43 sounds like 'be' or 'beat' to me no matter how hard I listen.

The problem is that even though 'be' and 'beat' can work, I think 'meet' makes much more sense context-wise.

So, either...

1. I'm tripping and I'm hearing a "b" sound when it's not actually there
2. My hearing is fine, it's 'be' or 'beat'
3. My hearing is fine, there is a 'b' sound (or at least not a clear 'm' sound), but since it's rap it just got mispronounced and the intended word is still 'meet'

If you'd like to help me out, feel free to react with 1️⃣ 2️⃣ or 3️⃣ , DM me, reply to this message in-server, or any combination of the above—thanks in advance!

https://youtu.be/rJuSmn9tovI?si=gspPY_RpdFgd9O1B&t=2m43s

Keep in mind that just because the video subtitles say it's 'meet' it doesn't mean that's correct—the line at around 2:28 is clearly erroneous.

The video says "Yeah, y'all don't really know who you're playing with" when there is obviously no "Yeah" or "Don't" in the verse.

[sullen garden]

I also hear "then you best prepare to beat the one you're prayin' to"

[stiff trench]

that's the official .lrc
I would assume they used that for the YT video as well ^^

I'd dare to say that it's just very butchered because of the rap

[fierce lodge]

Thanks! Where'd you get that from?

The only concern I have is that when making standardized lyrics for LyricFind (a source, if not the source for YT music subtitles) according to the guidelines the uploaded lyrics should match what's actually sung, not necessarily what's intended. See above example where I point out that 'Yeah' and 'Don't' are omitted.

I suppose a solution would be to note both what's intended and what's actually sung in the wiki, but the latter should be uploaded to LyricFind.

As an example, I messaged Cristina Vee on the intended last words for Boiling Blood since I kept hearing "etched in memory" instead of "ash and memory". "Ash and memory" can be found in the subtitles for the Arknights Yostar EP and used to be on the wiki. When I asked Cristina Vee, she replied that "etched in memory" was indeed correct--and I'm inclined to believe the artist on that one.

[glossy terrace]

is it exec-u-tor or ex-e-cue-tor ?

[sullen garden]

Should be the former, I think. Same stress as executive.

[opal tinsel]

Idk if this is the correct place to ask but where can I find like the

Animations in this year ambience synthesia

Or like the animated images used there

[mystic magnet]

Hello it's me

[grizzled lance]

emmm Can I ask why there's a linguistic-hub here? Interesting.

[mystic magnet]

For translation purposes, mainly

Or for songs and etc

[mystic schooner]

https://youtu.be/15qS2rTVh-Q?si=wA_Asc0zXpSkH4eE
anyone know the name of the song?

[stiff trench]

Темная Ночь by Mark Bernes?

[mystic schooner]

Yes, thank you very much

I heard it before but i forgot the title lol

[sharp steppe]

Same voice actor (it)

And the same voice too

It sounds off

[mystic schooner]

Work attire vs casual fit

[silver topaz]

ⴰⵣⵓⵍ ⴼⴻⵍⵍⴰⵡⴻⵏ

[unreal coyote]

Heyo, does anyone here happen to know what exactly "I Portatori dei Velluti" means? I get it translates literally into "The Velvet Bearers", but from there I can't figure out the significance of the translation.

Is it some kind of tradition? A role? I'm stumped.

[sharp steppe]

I'm Italian and also don't get it

Unless it's like some weird Sicilian folklore, I'm stumped

[sharp steppe]

Ping

[mystic schooner]

I think it was smth about venice, like they'd trade velvet or smth

[wide delta]

How do you pronounce Logo's real name

[mystic schooner]

You mean logoat?

[sullen garden]

Aefanyl?

[wide delta]

Yes

[wide delta]

Yes

[wide delta]

I'm from the United States so it's kinda hard to

[sullen garden]

Kind of like taking the -anyl from Fentanyl and slapping it on Ef-.

[wide delta]

Ah...is it Latin? Like his mother

[sullen garden]

Laqeramaline isn't really fully latin.

[wide delta]

Oh yeah. Ain't part Greek

Where do Banshee's originate from

[sullen garden]

It's part Arabic, part Latin from what others have figured.

[wide delta]

Ah

[sullen garden]

Banshees are Sarkaz. The Sarkaz as a whole are a mixed bag.

[wide delta]

I'm fairly new so I thought some places were based off real life places

[sullen garden]

I was pretty sure most of their names were Hebrew.

[wide delta]

Interesting. Very interesting

[sullen garden]

But odds are only the Goliath Sarkaz use Hebrew names. That said, Sarkazian as a language is definitely Hebrew-inspired from what I know. Goliaths are the "generic" "demon" Sarkaz you're probably most familiar with.

[wide delta]

Goliaths? R they like that penguin beast lord from the ads of this game

Also does that mean some places are based on real world places. Like Silverash's first name?

[sullen garden]

Kjerag is a mix of Nepal and Switzerland.

Victoria is the United Kingdom as a land power, themed around the 19th century. Columbia is based on the 20th century US.

Ursus is 19th cen Imperial Russia, Iberia is roughly 19th cen Spain/Portugal, but with an inquisition twist from earlier times.

Aegir is basically Atlantis, themed around the Roman Empire. Yan is basically advanced/stable 19th century China. Leithania is Austro-Hungary if it were a more unitary empire.

[wide delta]

Ah

[sullen garden]

You see all this reflected in the languages.

[wide delta]

I only knew Yan.
What about Lungman

[sullen garden]

The Sarkaz are based around Israel/Jewish groups, while Laterano are based around the Vatican. Lungmen's based on Hongkong.

[wide delta]

Ah

Btw Ch'en is just pronounced how it sounds right

[sullen garden]

You've plenty of pronunciation examples since it's a real surname.

[wide delta]

Ah

[mystic schooner]

Sarkaz are more of a folklore mix, dunno if you can rly say they're simply jewish inspired

[sullen garden]

I don't mean the subspecies, I mean the overall subtext/theme. Not having a home, being prosecuted and discriminated against, being subject to holy wars, etc.

It's enough that Hebrew's prominent / Ashkenazi is used for a fair few names.

[mystic schooner]

From thar pov i guess you have a point

[silver topaz]

What language would you like to see added next to the game

[mystic schooner]

I think everyone would love to have a character that speaks their language lol

[silver topaz]

Dunno where they'd fit Arabic outside Sargon
But not everyone there fits it

Might give me cringe
Like those vids where they fan dub Genshin to french

Phantom having Dio's french va was peak

[mystic schooner]

That is true but we're considering the good case no?

[unique orbit]

Need a Lungmen character called Jayden…….

[mystic schooner]

I don't get the reference lmao mind explaining?

[languid ether]

/tags

[wanton valve]

Tag list: internkun2, shawlaw, psa, internkun, hotdog, theshawning, seaborn, talent, eventrules

[clever lodge]

What is thier?

[sullen garden]

Typo; intended text was likely "their feet"

[clever lodge]

I tought that was the case thanks

Do they fix this kind of small mistake? Or just leave it there

[mystic schooner]

I guess if they wanted to fix it it would've been fixed by now

Unless that's eblana ig

[sullen garden]

They've done passes; you can report it in #1211608727103340616

[clever lodge]

Ahhh alright thanks

[glossy terrace]

joklumarkar

pronunciation

jock lu mar car?

[silver topaz]

Modern Arabic doesn't have a naturally occurring P sound despite the people being able to spell it just fine
Had to make a new symbol for it
Weirder when you consider the language it evolved from had it as well
Now you have to be the weirdo that puts پ in Panda
Similar story with Berber languages

[faint eagle]

Yo clue mar car

[thorny compass]

You look Polish to me

🇵🇱

Get Polish tagged

[faint eagle]

[thorny compass]

[faint eagle]

[thorny compass]

But seriously, are you Polish, Mister/Miss?

If you want to answer of course

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039611184925650944/1402751394796146778/attachment.gif

[faint eagle]

Tak pszepana

[thorny compass]

https://tenor.com/view/exusiai-the-new-covenant-arknights-yippie-gif-4934882651703129178

Two Exusiai pfps from Poland

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039611184925650944/1402751394796146778/attachment.gif

[mystic schooner]

Japjerdole

[glossy terrace]

ty

[silver topaz]

ⵃoⵡⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⵓⵏⴷⴻⵔⵙⵜⴰⵏⴷⵙ ⵜⵀⵉⵙ ⵡⵉⵍⵍ ⴳⴻⵜ ⴰ ⵍoⵜ oⴼ ⴱⴻⵍⵍⵢ ⵔⵓⴱⵙ

[lunar rampart]

Parangaracutilimicuaro

[silver topaz]

Nⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⴳoⵏⵏⴰ ⴳⵉⵯⴻ ⵢoⵓ ⵓⵒ, ⵏⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⴳoⵏⵏⴰ ⵍⴻⵜ ⵢoⵓ ⴷoⵡⵏ
Nⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⴳoⵏⵏⴰ ⵔⵓⵏ ⴰⵔoⵓⵏⴷ ⴰⵏⴷ
ⴷⴻⵙⴻⵔⵜ ⵢoⵓ
Nⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⴳoⵏⵏⴰ ⵎⴰⴽⴻ ⵢoⵓ ⵛⵔⵢ, ⵏⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⴳoⵏⵏⴰ ⵙⴰⵢ ⴳooⴷⴱⵢⴻ
Nⴻⵯⴻⵔ ⴳoⵏⵏⴰ ⵜⴻⵍⵍ ⴰ ⵍⵉⴻ ⴰⵏⴷ ⵀⵓⵔⵜ ⵢoⵓ

[tired ocean]

What she saying?

[tame jasper]

It seems to be a kind of hieroglyphic and all contents are well-encrypted.

[mystic schooner]

She likes cheesy bites on an all meat pizza

[prime wagon]

Correction

The letter exists it's just we don't need to use it therefore we don't consider it exists the same goes for:
ڤ = Va / V
گ = the closest i can think of is Ka + Qa (spell them in the same time)
چ = cha
ژ = i my self don't know what this letter is

[faint eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1419299789337661460/Screenshot_20250921_191115.jpg?ex=68d1416f&is=68cfefef&hm=f4cbc41a64a8e8e716ab7eaacbebdf88d4ba87f9514ba366e3434ef70bf1c503&

Does 呼嘎 mean anything

Doesn't seem so

[unique orbit]

pretty sure just onomatopoeia for the end of a yawn here

[faint eagle]

I think so too

[plush pine]

[trim pine]

Hello there! I'm sorry for the sudden appearance with an outdated topic, but who can explain me the name of the Ling third skill summons?
They seem to be vastly different in English and Chinese so I cannot even imagine how to localize them in my native language

[plush pine]

try asking in lore room ig

[trim pine]

I hope it's okay, but thank you for answering either way....

[radiant vault]

Ling's skills are chinese poetry right? You uh, need to get VERY creative to localize those in any language

[fresh current]

it's not far off actually

if you look at each word one by one

宁 = calm/stable
作 = makes
吾 = old way of saying me or i
-> to remain oneself

[trim pine]

Nah, nah, I meant the SUMMONS, thunderers

In Chinese they have meant the fear of the bow string sound?????

It seems to be idiomatic, but Russian idioms are nowhere that nice to recreate with this

[fresh current]

i'll have a look

omg

[trim pine]

The Thunderer is 弦惊
The higher ones could not be found,but in Japanese they seem to be called.... 大龍?
I don't know for sure with the second one, I have to use names of the buffs from the other game that had them...

[fresh current]

you guys don't have a word something like phobia?

___phobia

[trim pine]

Ah, we do have

[fresh current]

could use that

[trim pine]

Hmmm

Fair

[fresh current]

i'm looking at the definition and it's birds that have the fear of the bow string sound cuz they got struck before

[trim pine]

Yeah

It seems to be a part of the idiom

[radiant vault]

It seems like an idiom that describes smiting via thunder

[fresh current]

there's no thunder involved

[trim pine]

The Russians have 2 versions for the said idiom
"The scared crow fears even the (moving) bush"
And something about the dog that hears the snap of the whip

[fresh current]

nothing similar to ptsd?

you could use that instead

[trim pine]

Idiomatic-wise? No
Bluntly... we have the name of the disorder,but that's it

[fresh current]

ah...

[trim pine]

Yeah, it's tough

Maybe really something with whip's crack?

[fresh current]

yeah

what about

hmm

something in relation to memories which cause an overreaction

[trim pine]

It would be similarly fearful for many + loongs do look like a whip if you squint enough..

Ah, hm, maybe, I'll try to think in that way!

[fresh current]

because even though the idiom originated from birds, i see other places use it just to describe that instead nowadays instead of only focusing on birds

(but then again i'm only reading the wiki page for this xd)

[trim pine]

Hahah it's only fair

Ahaha to use "Отголоски" as in "echoes (of a fearful memory)"

[fresh current]

that actually will work

[trim pine]

Should think of what to do with the higher ones, hmmm

[fresh current]

higher ones?

[radiant vault]

Echoes, and then embodiment?

[trim pine]

Yea, when you place two Thunderers, they turn into the stronger one

[fresh current]

wait i thought in en there was just the one word for both of them

[trim pine]

In Korean they are called "시엔징" and "상급 시엔징"
But I have no knowledge of the Chinese and Japanese versions, and EN wikies do not use info about stronger Thunderes apart from usual ones

[fresh current]

gonna see if i can find anything on prts

on s3 it's the same name 🤔

let me check for s2

[trim pine]

Where I looked (the thing I've been translating), they used "弦驚" and "大龍" for the Japanese localization

Ah, truly interesting.

[fresh current]

peripateticism...

[trim pine]

You know, I wouldn't really be surprised if the difference is naught and was only made in fan community and/or the game I translate, sigh

[fresh current]

s1 is tranquility

[trim pine]

yeah

[fresh current]

大龍 is just big dragon

what

[radiant vault]

makes sense

wouldn't be the first time chinese gets super literal

[fresh current]

is it this?

oh wait that's the skins ignore me

i think

[trim pine]

Yeah, I know, that's why I kinda... do not understand what to do with localization here :'D

Yeah it seems to be the skins

[fresh current]

korean is like

well idk what the word is

but putting it through translate

it's just... advanced

[radiant vault]

You can switch Big with Great

and then figure out if you keep dragon or try to follow the fear theme

[trim pine]

Using the Japanese localization seems to be a bit too funny
We are translating the poet's summons, after all

But thank you, really!

[fresh current]

i can't find anything

i don't have a cn account to check

[trim pine]

That's alright, you've helped me tremedously

[fresh current]

they have the same name on the cn server

[radiant vault]

not surprising

CN and kanji are basically the same

[fresh current]

almost yh

[radiant vault]

so it's still going to be Big Dragon unless you take some liberties

[fresh current]

wait no i meant the name doesn't change at all

like in en when you merge 2 dragons

it keeps the same name

[trim pine]

Yeah, I understood

Thank you, either way. Guess it's the "funsies" of the game I have to translate...
I am tremendously thankful to you for the help with this thing.

[silver topaz]

Simple example of how to go from English back to PIE

Foot
F reverts to a P
T reverses to a D
Vowels shorten
foot becomes Pod = pods

[keen sorrel]

question

how does one pronounce Ægir ?

Ay-geer?

or eye-ur

[dense steppe]

Ah-yir

[keen sorrel]

aight thanks ^^

was wondering cuz my character in a dnd is from Aegir

[mystic schooner]

You tellin me my headcannon all this time was wrong? I always thought it was ey-geer lol

[dense steppe]

ey-geer is indeed how it's pronounced in-game. @keen sorrel

assumed the question was for irl

[mystic schooner]

A, fair enough

[languid berry]

Does anyone know what's this supposed to mean?
"eck ner uhs er n'ah k ngah"

I saw someone on a friend's server with this, and I thought it was maybe German but, got no results so far (sorry in advance if this some kinda insult, I dunno what even does it says there)

[obtuse dagger]

wtf did I just stumble into

[mystic schooner]

Idk if it helps but google detected it as Tiv which is apparently a language spoken in North Central Nigeria. It couldn't actually translate it so i dunno if this is actually it

[mystic schooner]

Honestly it could just be some made up phrase lol

It's a lotta consonants in one sentence

[languid berry]

Seems likely lmao
Anyhow, thanks a lot

[mystic schooner]

I mean i didn't do much but sure no problem

[viral shale]

mili lyrics be like

[halcyon canopy]

I don't think that's german, I think that's gibberish or maybe indonesian idk

[daring harness]

It is probably a Xhoisan language

[stiff trench]

If that was German then a very interesting dialect, though Eck is sometimes used as abbreviation for Ecke = corner
the rest uuuh no clue xD

[languid berry]

Xhoisan?

[daring harness]

Zulu, xhosa, Taa...

"Ngah, n'ah" Dental or glottal clicks are heard, or even more

"Eck ner uhs" It looks like German, but if it were, the meaning would be very ambiguous.

"er" "k" I don't know where they come from, they seem like single words, they could be grammatical particles or something else

But most likely it's just Voynich.

[stiff trench]

I don’t see too much meaning at all xD
uhs could be a very strongly modified “aus” (like spoken in eg. the cologne dialect) though I don’t think it’s written that way.

[languid berry]

So then, we can consider my acquaintance is either trolling or being cryptic on purpose?

Honestly did not expect this result lmao

[stiff trench]

What result? Geeks with too much time writing 2 pages on a single sentence? xD

[daring harness]

probably just headbutted the keyboard.

[stiff trench]

Yeah most likely

[mystic schooner]

That's what i said lmao

[karmic steeple]

Is this the fictional zemblan language from pale fire or smth

[languid berry]

Tbh I have no idea

[glossy terrace]

that's so cool that you know this

[daring harness]

Ty

[fallen scaffold]

[acoustic glen]

reminded me of the fictional languange pallas theme has. keep the torch

[daring harness]

Ununukuklanjbjnujunga

[pseudo frost]

Are you okay

[daring harness]

It was a joke

But yes

[meager steeple]

I can't believe I'm so much more proficient with English than my own native language

[stiff trench]

I think the same sometimes, then I notice that I can't speak either

[meager steeple]

Damn

[thorny herald]

The true multilingual experience

[lone kelp]

how to spell pepe full name?

[dreamy forum]

Djerwnapekhaper Saciut Hatshepsut

[mystic magnet]

How do you even pronounce that

[dreamy matrix]

No one can, that's the neat stuff.

I honestly wanna see if they make summer last year to Anime.

How the hell they gonna pronounce Pepe name.

[daring harness]

Ladino combined with German

[dreamy forum]

im not too sure about the romanisation plus this isnt an actual egyptian name plus it uses an egyptological romanisation but something along the lines of
/dʒɛɾuːnɑpɛxɑpɛɾ sɑtʃiut hɑtʃɛpsut/ or jer-oo-na-pe-kha-per sa-chee-oot hat-shet-soot if we're to be taking the romanisation literally while taking a lot of liberties

it really doesnt help that the names arent consistently romanised

and that the first one is a corruption of two names put together according to the wiki

[dreamy forum]

and that they're from vastly distant periods and stages of the language

and that i have very limited knowledge of the egyptian language

[dreamy forum]

im gonna transcribe how she says it in the voice line tomorrow because i might have forgotten about that

[dreamy forum]

[˳ʒɛɹ.ˈɾu.nɛ.pʰe.ˌħɑɹ.pe sa.ˈʃu̟t hat.ˈʃɛp.sʊ̝tʰ]

[dreamy forum]

I'm not too confident in this tbh

[dreamy matrix]

[dreamy forum]

zher-RU-ne-pe-hhar-pe sa-SHOOT hat-SHEP-soot

[mystic magnet]

I can see why she abbreviated it

[willow flume]

Awesome

[zinc token]

heya fellas, I got a quick language question from the new is6 trailer

anyone has any idea what this seal script character that shows up at 2:57 is?

talking about this trailer btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oZpmz83Few

[dense steppe]

颉 Jié

[zinc token]

oh that makes sense, thank you

[ruby leaf]

The information I found can also be pronounced ''xié''

In the Shuowen Jiezi (a Chinese dictionary), the character "頡" (with the "頁" radical) is explained as "a straight neck," referring to the appearance of a neck stretched out and stiff. It is also marked "from 頁 (head) and 吉 (auspicious) as the phonetic component," indicating that the character is composed of "頁" (head) and "吉." In addition, "頡" in ancient times also had meanings such as flying upwards, a wild beast resembling a blue dog (described in the Classic of Mountains and Seas), and a surname. It is often used with "頏" to form "頡頏," indicating the action of flying

[zinc token]

interesting

[dim onyx]

So the Sui proxy 颉 is based on a real Chinese deity 仓颉 (cangjie) who created written words. Cangjie was supposedly a real person in very distant history who was remembered for this achievement

[zinc token]

oh yeah that part I'm aware, I read up on some of the lore afterwards

I just really couldn't tell that was jie/xie lol

I also said that was "seal script" but I'm not exactly sure

[dim onyx]

Well, the point was trying to make was just that this does not have much to do with the meaning of the character itself since it's someone's name

it's like if my name is Jack and my name is written here it has nothing to do with male cats

but still, knowing they etymology of words is fun regardless

[zinc token]

ah ic what you mean, yeah

[unreal coyote]

Does anyone know how "岁的界园志异" could possibly get deep fried into, uh, the attached result?
Any self-respecting translation software will give "Strange Tales from the Garden of Ages/Grotesqueries" but Google page translate on PRTS.wiki will somehow comes up with this. 💀. I'm Chinese-American myself, and I can't figure out what exactly it's trying to even do.

OG text, for reference

[unique orbit]

Idk where it got “18” from but if you interpret 界园 as a person’s name then assuming you somehow got a number from somewhere to fill in before 岁 then it could be translated as what google translate did

[unreal coyote]

That makes some sense, but still, where in the world did it derive 18 from.

[rain plank]

This is my library's rather modest language section.

[dreamy matrix]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BpIi3nYMZ2UN6UBGiy241OsAQ07_RnzA

@rapid tulip Here, if you want to learn it.

[stiff trench]

ENFIELD

[unique orbit]

how it feels knowing how to read greek only to have hg pull up with "msdisetiqsdti bthupd"
if 登临意 could be in cursive calligraphy with a subtitle in plain text they surely could've done a bit better

[rapid tulip]

Anyone got a guide for the language of Sami?

[stiff trench]

I only know them from math, but even that is enough to know that’s gibberish yeah. Also what is it supposed to say there if you interpret the Sigma and Pi etc. As E/N/U etc.

[sullen garden]

💀

Terrible day to be able to read Greek.

[dreamy forum]

I think wikipedia will suffice unless you're looking for something else

[dreamy forum]

grssk

[unique orbit]

Medjehtiqedti bound but you probably know by now

Also I recently learned that that is supposed to be a j after the first d
Whoever thought that Γ flipped looks like a J should not work on graphic design ever again

[sullen garden]

I just noticed the flipped gamma and want to strangle someone with my bare hands.

[dusky needle]

i didn't think i'll encounter this very specific room when looking for help

i'm trying to decode what Logos writes around himself (for the sake of cosplay and being personally interested in that). what I got so far is that like 95% of the texts in both ingame arts and animations for all skills are repetition of a phrase voco scribo imperium or scribo imperium voco?

however in his E2 art, there's one more phrase hidden and I have no idea how to decipher it. i don't speak latin and i don't know how the language works - some of the letters can't be read anymore, and google translate likes to hallucinate a lot when i try different combinations, so it doesn't seem very trustworthy (it seems to just pull up the word from whatever language it detects when it's not a latin word)

to be more specific, it's around here (the yellow text):

so far I got something like dominae non errabitban and ravi supra from what seem to be coherent latin words but i have no idea how to interpret the missing parts (if it's even possible)

is there anyone who would be able to help with this?

[tame jasper]

It seems to be Latin words.

Because we have something similar in the Bible:
Divinatio in labiis regis; in judicio non errabit os ejus.
which means
A divine sentence is in the lips of the king: his mouth transgresseth not in judgment.

[dusky needle]

yeah I'm confident that it's Latin, but I am not able to fill the gaps for the missing letters to make out the rest of the words

all I can do is toss the words into a translator and hope for the best

[tame jasper]

still missing

Inside the text visible in blue:

• ravi: gray, taupe, but it seems that the noun it modifies hasn’t been seen yet
• supra: above, on top of something.
• dominae: in this context, probably "mistress".
• non: negative word, meaning "not"
• errabit: originally means "to stray" but combined with the conjugation and the negation above, it probably means "won't stray"
  Putting the words together and guessing, it may probably turns out Logos' identity and wishes as the ferryman of the Sarkaz.

And what's more, there is a phrase appears repeatedly.
IMPERIUM VOCO SCRIBO.
which means
I summon power, I write its story.

P.S. These are merely results derived from a logical analysis based on available information; perhaps only the designer knows the truth.

[dusky needle]

mainly i didn't know where to put the voco in the sentence - in this art, I think the word isn't there at all? only "scribo imperium"

[dusky needle]

and I don't understand too well how to get to the outcome you came up with based on these

nonetheless, thanks for your help

[tame jasper]

Yeah I typed it wrongly but the meaning is correct.
voco, it means ‘to invite' and ‘call together’ originating from Latin.
As what you mentioned before, these words are broken and still need more information to identify whether we are right.

[tame jasper]

Mainly based on the probably meaning of these fragmented words and the identity of Logos we known in the game.

[unique orbit]

if you see an adjective with nothing matching you can always fall back to last resort and say it’s substantive

[vivid temple]

they use this script in endfield too now

i think

sarkaz might have become the primary established language in terra lmao

[dusky needle]

yea that's how we got the full alphabet i think

[tight canopy]

what

[tight canopy]

translate with that??

[dusky needle]

have you like

bothered to read what i was asking

before pinging

[tight canopy]

can you translate that?

AWAKEN TEST

FUSION

[dusky needle]

that was supposed to be a rhetorical question

[tight canopy]

im in process)

[dusky needle]

but you really insist on not reading what i asked

that's fine

[shy gyro]

Does anyone happen to know the wordcount for the current event, Ave Mujica? (english)

[sullen garden]

mfw we're going to fuse with Priestess.

[tight canopy]

what

why

[sullen garden]

Nothing, I was making a dumb semi-joke based on the translated text and fan speculation about the Endfield MCs being some compromise foreshadowing.

[tight canopy]

Personally, I have so far deduced for myself the theory that these are copies of Oracle and Prestess (when activating abilities, an orange diamond appears in their eyes, but the purpose is not clear

[lunar rampart]

@plain sage

Te gusta salirte del Servidor ehh...

[plain sage]

Podrías haber usado dm

[lunar rampart]

[steady heath]

No contesto DM

• bad bunny

[ruby leaf]

[vale yarrow]

heh

[tame jasper]

Yeah, simply put.
-Ave: Latin for “hail,” “welcome,” or “praise.”
​(Similar to "Ave Maria" )

• Mujica is a word with multiple interpretations
  -​a. Possibly derived from the Latin musica, meaning “music.”
  -b. Probably a play on the Japanese mujina (a mythical raccoon dog spirit) with “carnival.”
  -c. Yet also echoes the Japanese mujikaku, meaning “unconscious” or “unaware,” reflecting the band’s theme of abandoning one’s true self and becoming a doll.

[pure marsh]

So praise the unconscious dolls?

[hot vault]

LMAO
Just learned about the character named "Eblana" and it made me cry as a russian
Because in russian word "eblan" is one of the crude ways to call someone dumbass
What a beautiful name indeed

[vivid charm]

Do we have ever seen the cyrillic spelling of ursus empire?

I assumethe ursus is just literal bear, so Урсус
and that makes "ursus empire", Империя Урсуса? or Урсусская Империя?

[hot vault]

We have
It's written below "Чернобог" and it's "Урсус Империя".

Though "Урсусская Империя" in my opinion would be more grammatically correct

[vivid charm]

yeah thats what i thought too

[polar summit]

Урсус Да

[chilly crescent]

<@&586570970345635868>

[keen swan]

Does anyone know what Aegirian language looks like

[wraith bobcat]

Funnier part is that Eblana is named after a real place in Ireland

[hot vault]

Glad to hear that my wife's name is based not on russian slur

[wraith bobcat]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2bLQUkYLFUk?si=3EA5e4GOCBI8-IOH
they should write out the story like this so that more people would read it

[wraith cargo]

Latin

[keen swan]

I thought Sanka are Latin

[wraith cargo]

Both are. Sankta are more Vatican, Aegir more Roman Republic. Perhaps there's some difference in era of Latin, but I don't know. You also have (more southern) Italian in Syracusa, so why not?

[hardy rapids]

oh wow linguistics!

is there...

English linguistics?

[haughty orbit]

Are there any arknights-language native speakers?

[stiff trench]

I’m afraid I’m not a native sarkaz speaker. I’m fluent in Leithanisch through

[crystal hill]

[lilac pike]

Any fellow linguist here?

[sullen garden]

@acoustic glen

Nuke this guy.

[acoustic glen]

send him to brazil

[hollow fiber]

poo

[fresh mantle]

<@&586570970345635868>

[hardy wasp]

to brazil

[wraith cargo]

So what do people think about Sarkaz language? I vaguely recall some Yiddish and Hebrew sounding words. I've also picked up on some coded themes on the race (ancient group, diaspora kicked out of their homeland, crusades against them, called demons by others, recently reconstituted homeland, shared origin to the Christian Sankta who still seem to hate them). I'm assuming it's close to Hebrew, but changed enough for plausible deniability?

[winged lodge]

I have a friend that made an Engelang,

[dreamy mango]

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[acoustic glen]

hi

[fast void]

Wow, two people

[rich needle]

[acoustic glen]

ni hao

hola

bonjour

oi

konnichiwa

privyet

[mellow spade]

Holy shit its real

@neb

[acoustic glen]

@neb

[rich needle]

are cn translations allowed in here or is that considered spoilers i don't see anything in the above rules against it?

[sullen garden]

For CN content translations, #cn-lounge or #ak-lore.

[zenith obsidian]

Omg it's real

[sullen garden]

Do read the rules carefully, especially the part about keeping conversation in English for the most part and including translations.

[rich needle]

yeah gotcha

[acoustic glen]

entendido mi rey (yes)

[upbeat sandal]

Neb's dream finally came true

[mellow spade]

Si

Yes

[zenith obsidian]

Wow

[acoustic glen]

El sueño del pibe (the dream of the dude)

[zenith obsidian]

Another channel that i will never use

[shell blaze]

Beautiful

So how do you pronounce muelsyse

[thin karma]

Neb

[zenith matrix]

Ohio gozai moss

[thin karma]

You son of a bitch

You did it

[rich needle]

zucc

[thin karma]

[storm cargo]

hi

hi lalande

[rich needle]

omg hi

[thin karma]

Chào mọi người

[storm cargo]

[acoustic glen]

its all thanks to neb 🎉 our dream came true

[zenith obsidian]

Neb speaking weeb

[thin karma]

[storm cargo]

hello xinny

[zenith matrix]

ok so anyways i procrastinated a shit ton on japanese learning cuz busy with college

[inner jewel]

didnt ask

[zenith matrix]

so im learning from basically zero again

[thin karma]

Let's go

[acoustic glen]

where

[thin karma]

Let's learn together

[zenith matrix]

Ok so resources I gotta go get those

[nocturne vale]

Hello

[zenith matrix]

None of y'all are iOS right? Anki costs $20 on iOS for some reason while it's free for PC and Android

Anki is really good with flashcards cuz it has spaced repitition bullshit so stuff you know better is more spaced out for showing up again

[mellow spade]

Ios bias

[magic isle]

👀

I live here now

[zenith matrix]

Yo Sami are you learning Japanese too

or smth else

[nocturne vale]

My status says it all

[magic isle]

my japanese is decent

I've kinda let it attrit though because I haven't studied it for a while

but I was a linguistics BA

which is a degree I never use

[zenith matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/871796298083344484/979463142855819365/Redlmao.gif

[hybrid horizon]

Caralho

[dreamy mango]

como estas carone

[fast void]

Chaps, read the channel rules, ye?

[nocturne vale]

Only thing i learned recently is a sorting algorithm

[magic isle]

do programming languages count

[upbeat barn]

seems like many people will ask and none have answer . im learning japanese, korean and chinese rn.. if it is easy question maybe i can answer it... also looking for language expert for those.

Anyone know good resource for double particle in japanese ? like には、のが、 etc.

tl: you use these particle after something and it will affect the sentence.
に is target particle.
は is topic particle.
の is possession particle.

[gritty flower]

They told me I can say fuck here

[zenith matrix]

I find this channel (https://youtube.com/channel/UCkdmU8hGK4Fg3LghTVtKltQ) really good for grammar related things once you get past the 3D model and somewhat robotic voice. The titles can seem somewhat pretentious(?), but the information is really helpful I've found. I find it more enjoyable watching on like 1.25x or 1.5x speed

As for double particles in particular, she has this video (https://youtube.com/watch?v=iPiLVZoYhfM) on them. I know some other videos go more in depth on specific examples (https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bq3GO63D9bw covers のが), but they're kind of annoying to dig for

[upbeat barn]

many thanks

[upbeat barn]

and it is actually cure dolly... my main source for learning japanese for now.Also already watched those 2 video. Actually watched the 2nd link yesterday and i think it wasn't enough.

I need more example... like i know something is right, but i need wrong example too. Cure dolly doesn't explain it directly. For some example i think it is fine to only use に , or only use は, or combine both. But she doesn't mention about only use は at all.

tl: scroll to above a little bit.

[zenith matrix]

I don't think you can have a location based topic without に. Like if you say

#helpはいく
Sure you have a topic. Sure you have a verb. But like they're not connected by に to show that #help is the direction/target of going. Another example would be a targeted verb without を. Like I googled 「ケーキは食べた」to test (Image below), and all the results show that you need を to show that cake is what's being eaten.

And then it comes down to に vs には, which is just a difference between using は or not. The way I understand it is that it's the connotation of は that matters, not just that it's indicating a topic. The way it was explained to me a while back was that there's a implication of other things not being what you're describing after the は. He used the example of if you're saying you're a student. Like 「私は学生です」says that you specifically are a student, but also implies that the others present might not be. That's why the more typical response would just be 「学生です」, since that's just the implied が and doesn't distinguish you as the topic.

I'm not the best at explaining, sorry if that just made things more confusing.

[upbeat barn]

thanks for the explanation.. it isn't confusing, but more like not what i asked. What i need is specifically more example about double particles. Im sure im good enough to differentiate between basic single particle.

like some example from video...
冬には雪だるまをつくる。this is okay,
冬に雪だるまをつくる。this is okay too.
冬は雪だるまをつくる。no direct explanation, i think this should be fine..

what is the different small implication between each sentence. Also more other example will be great.

tl: quite hard to translate it, japanese usually omit the subject if it is unnecessary. Also translating slightly wrong grammatically sentence.

1. as for winter, x can build a snowman
2. in winter, x can build a snowman.
3. as for winter, x can build a snowman.

[lavish fox]

hi

[thick pasture]

wowie

[lavish fox]

@neb

[thick pasture]

i dont have formal education but the last one doesnt seem right , it sounds more like you’re saying winter(the weather) can make snowmen. which is likely why it needs the に. unless you go for something like 冬は雪だるまをつくれる

ah but ill go back to sleep pls excuse me

[zenith matrix]

This yeah. Not having に doesn't make it clear what the relation between winter and making snowmen is

[upbeat barn]

yeah more example like this will be great... thanks for the explanation

[sullen garden]

Sorry to interrupt -- do remember to include translations to the best of your ability so people who don't necessarily have the vocabulary can understand the intended message. Check channel rule #2 in the pins for the mention.

[zenith matrix]

Will do

[zenith matrix]

I'll try another example, but idk if it's a good one or not
「彼と映画を見た」and「彼とは映画を見た」are both "I watched a movie with him"

The difference in implication would be like

彼とは映画を見た
This says I watched a movie with him and implies that he was the only one I watched it with since he's the exclusive topic
彼と映画を見た
This just says that I watched a movie with him, but any other number of people could've also been there since there's nothing about them mentioned
彼は映画を見た
This loses the original meaning. It just says that he watched a movie

sry i had to edit since i went back and smth didnt make sense

[upbeat barn]

This is understandable, thanks. but there are more other double particles. Or does people just learn few form and they can extrapolate it naturally?

Im expecting other people who also learn japanese to show specific link either for video, podcast, article or some pdf with double particle topic.

[magic isle]

It’s important to remember what Japanese “wa” is

It’s a topic marker

It’s not a subject marker

That’s why things like niwa, dewa, towa, all work: because they make the entire clause the topic

[upbeat barn]

so it is only something+は and の+something?

[magic isle]

what's an example of the latter? (other than のは, I mean, and I guess のに is usually analyzed as one unit)

in english you can force mark something as a topic using "as for ___"

it sounds kinda awkward but it has the same role

if that helps to understand what it does

[upbeat barn]

ので and のが too

[magic isle]

so that is something of a special case

because it should be preceded by a verb

adding -の works like a gerund, turning a verb into a noun

so verb + の should be able to take any particle that a noun would take

[upbeat barn]

thanks, clear and easy to understand explanation.. so technically those 2 particle doesn't really related, but more like they just happen to be close.

[magic isle]

yeah, I think that's correct...

[upbeat barn]

then why people make these as a topic.. like introducing double particles term seems like it is different thing.

[magic isle]

like take the example

食べるのは肉だけ。
tabe-ru no wa niku dake.

eat-NONPAST GERUND TOPIC meat only

"All that (he/she/it/they) eat is meat."

[magic isle]

it's similar to when you are putting focus on a particular part of a sentence

mm, e.g. in languages with flexible word order, you can bring an important part of the sentence to the beginning to draw attention to it

it's like the difference between

I'm going to the store tomorrow. (pretty neutral)
Tomorrow, I'm going to the store. (an emphasis on the time)

[upbeat barn]

alright thanks. ig this really clear all the confusion part for me. 🛐

[fossil fog]

is this a club about ling, the next limited operator?

[zenith matrix]

If we get can some Chinese experts who can discuss the different dialects of the Nian siblings, sure

[gritty flower]

what would you like me to tell you about the Sui girls

[versed pilot]

as someone who speaks shanghainese, dusk's dialect seems so foreign yet so familiar at the same time

[gritty flower]

It's another Wu language. Related, but not entirely mutually intelligible with Shanghainese

[oblique otter]

For those of you that are interested in Chinese, I found this video p interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMI6Mbx8lbw

[nocturne vale]

So uh...

[short plaza]